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Topic: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 799. (Read 5805728 times)

sr. member
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Anyone else using Win7 having any issues with 1.5.6 and Catalyst 11.7/11.8 (SDK 2.5)?  I've tried both now and it seems as though all my GPU's are coming up disabled and if I attempt to enable them, cgminer crashes.

Catalyst 11.7 with SDK 2.1 works fine.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Just gave this miner a spin.  Very nice work!

But I did notice each instance takes about 16% of a CPU to run, although Xorg is showing a slightly lower CPU usage.

Unfortunately that's enough to keep the CPU out of the lowest power state on my machine.  This isn't the same problem as 11.7+ hogging an entire CPU per GPU compute instance.  If I go back to using any of the python miners those instances use far less than 1% of a CPU each, and the system remains mostly in the lowest power state.

Is there a way to crank down whatever it is cgminer is doing to trade a tiny bit of mining efficiency for letting the CPU spend its days snoozing?  I know it's a microtweak, but it's setting off my OCD side.

Oh yes, catalyst 11.6, SDK 2.5, Ubuntu 11.04.

legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016
What Symantec doing may be dumb, stupid, moronic to you, but it alerts me that my system may get affected & it stops my system from affecting.
Antivirus, Anti-malware, Firewall....are used to PROTECT system.
I am happy Symantec doing that.
& i am not a runner like some to run to Linux coz Windows gets virus.
Most of the virus created for Windows by anti virus companies to do business. If there is no virus then there is no need for antivirus, then antivirus companies have to close.
Since Linux not used by many & it still lacks in number of software available to Linux comparing to Windows vast number of softwares for a particular thing & many Linux programmers also writing viruses to show the hate of the monopoly of Windows, Linux is safe now.
But if it comes in mainstream like Windows it too will have virus & you will run to some other OS.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Re: Symantec

The main issue is that the f**king morons at Symantec detect cgminer.exe and not the actual bot software.
Proving that you should NOT use their software since it doesn't detect the cause of the problem - it detects the WRONG file.

Seriously, if you use Symantec this is complete proof of why you should get rid of it and use some other AV software and why it is not actually protecting your PC properly.

Simple logic and simple proof.

Edit: anyone got a link to their site where I can actually tell them why I will forever now be telling people to NOT use Symantec with a better explanation Smiley (with a simple example extra proof as below)

e.g. if someone writes a bot and puts a Symantec AV file in it - will it from then on detect that Symantec file as a virus instead of the bot software that is what you should be worried about?

Edit2: a simple fix for the bot writer is to use another miner program and then the bot gets past Symantec undetected with the same bot code!

Symantec hater what you say about this?
http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=936a7bf51dffcc554468e792e2534066163f52cb24d4f9e9c245a3be580e6c45-1313781844
LOL - I don't use windows, I use linux on all but my kids computers.

My kids computers have windows with ClamAV
When people with home computers ask me for a free AV suggestion, I tell them to get AVG Free
When clients with a business want a free AV I tell them to get Microsoft Antivirus

ALL 3 of those on your list don't complain about it Smiley LOL

If and when they do complain it about - I will have the same thing to say about them also.

Yep I still say EXACTLY the same thing about Symantec and I will say the same thing about all the rest of those in the list that claim it is a virus/trojan/rootkit
Those virus checkers are brain dead and programmed by idiots.
They detect a program that is not a virus or a trojan or even a root kit.
They should detect the rest of the software that is part of the payload to install it - not the cgminer.exe program.

Saying otherwise is seriously lacking understanding of what the problem is and also leaves a wide open hole in the virus checker
As I said before, it means that if the person who made the bot trojan simply replaced cgminer.exe with some other miner - suddenly the stupid AV program would be happy coz it isn't detecting the problem, just the non damaging piece of software that the trojan runs - which MANY other people run legitimately and yet these virus checkers actually DELETE it from their system and try to stop them from running it.

Explain to me how what Symantec is doing is not dumb, stupid and moronic?
Posting links doesn't help coz that one says nothing against what I already said.
Tell me in your own words why what I said is incorrect
sr. member
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I'm trying to set up one of my computers with Cgminer and am having a problem.

I have 4 6970's in the computer and I want to connect them to Deepbit as primary and BTC Guild as backup.

I want to only have one instance of Cgminer running and be able to use one pool worker per GPU (Not all 4 GPU's using one login and password). This is needed because I check the status on my phone of my miners to see if any of them have stopped. If they are all lumped into one login, I have no way of knowing which GPU is having an issue.

So for Deepbit and BTC Guild I have 4 workers set up (One for each GPU).

Using Windows 7. No Screen command so I only want one instance of Cgminer running.

I have tried the "-d" option for all GPU's but that doesn't seem to work for me.

Any way to make this happen?
hero member
Activity: 807
Merit: 500
Hi there,

Recently started using this over other miners, and I like it, but I have one problem.

Every time it starts (I start it from a batch file, or sometimes it restarts itself), the affinity is reset and it uses 100% of all 4 cores.   I can fix it by manually setting the affinity to one core, but if I'm not around (or sleeping) I can't do that.

Is there a way to force affinity on startup?

Anyone Wink There must be lots of other people with this issue, surely Cheesy
Why don't you search this thread for affinity?  Wink  I'll give you a hint, the search box and button button toward the top right ccorner of this page (below "simple machines forum", the date/time, and a section with three rows of left-aligned text) searches whatever you are in, for instance, if you type affinity in it right now you will see your post, one other person asking the same thing, three people giving the same answer, and one person giving a different answer.  On the other hand, it's hard telling what you will find if you click on one of these links below the search box before searching:
Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Mining > Mining software (miners)
legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016
Re: Symantec

The main issue is that the f**king morons at Symantec detect cgminer.exe and not the actual bot software.
Proving that you should NOT use their software since it doesn't detect the cause of the problem - it detects the WRONG file.

Seriously, if you use Symantec this is complete proof of why you should get rid of it and use some other AV software and why it is not actually protecting your PC properly.

Simple logic and simple proof.

Edit: anyone got a link to their site where I can actually tell them why I will forever now be telling people to NOT use Symantec with a better explanation Smiley (with a simple example extra proof as below)

e.g. if someone writes a bot and puts a Symantec AV file in it - will it from then on detect that Symantec file as a virus instead of the bot software that is what you should be worried about?

Edit2: a simple fix for the bot writer is to use another miner program and then the bot gets past Symantec undetected with the same bot code!

Symantec hater what you say about this?
http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=936a7bf51dffcc554468e792e2534066163f52cb24d4f9e9c245a3be580e6c45-1313781844
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I did reported this as false positive to Norton, but they not the only one who incorrectly detects this as trojan or rootkit:

http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=936a7bf51dffcc554468e792e2534066163f52cb24d4f9e9c245a3be580e6c45-1313781844

Now, what would happen if the legit, non-infected cgminer.exe executable
was somehow _included_ in a rootkit package or a virus ? Wouldn't we then
stand a chance of seeing cgminer.exe triggering virus detection software ?


Znort!  Ssshhh!  Let's not go giving people any ideas for ruining cgminer for everyone!  >_<
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Live long and prosper. \\//,
I did reported this as false positive to Norton, but they not the only one who incorrectly detects this as trojan or rootkit:

http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=936a7bf51dffcc554468e792e2534066163f52cb24d4f9e9c245a3be580e6c45-1313781844

Edit:

I figured out why that false positive detentions occur: some dumb script kiddie did put it into her malware, and RENAMED it into svchost.exe! This file name made some programs detect it as rootkit.
One of the infected PC's owner submitted it with that name to virustotal...
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Hi there,

Recently started using this over other miners, and I like it, but I have one problem.

Every time it starts (I start it from a batch file, or sometimes it restarts itself), the affinity is reset and it uses 100% of all 4 cores.   I can fix it by manually setting the affinity to one core, but if I'm not around (or sleeping) I can't do that.

Is there a way to force affinity on startup?

Anyone Wink There must be lots of other people with this issue, surely Cheesy
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Removing the CPU mining code from the miner would mean you'd have to rename it to G-Miner....

It sounds a bit like "Yo, Big G in da house"

Con's GPU Miner

I've tried rolling this out on a few computers (20+) with CPU mining and having to set -t all the time is very annoying. -t all or -t -2 (# CPU threads minus 2 threads) and etc will be nice.

Also, how is Hyper Threading handled? Should i set it to the number of actual cores or number of threads?
It is supposed to detect the number of CPUs and set it automatically. The only time it does not set number of cpu threads is if it detects any mineable GPU cores. Then it disables CPU mining.

As for hyperthreading, it's a two edged sword. If you set it to the total number of threads, your overall hash rate will be marginally higher (on the order of 15%, but depends on type of CPU) but the efficiency will drop down dramatically because each individual thread will be slower. Also the perceived desktop slowdown will be more dramatic if you use number of threads. Overall, I'd be recommending setting it to number of cores rather than number of threads since then each core can operate most effectively, and be more efficient. Note, however, that there is no reliable cross platform way of determining what's a core and what's a thread. All operating systems return the total number of threads as processors, so by default, auto-detect will give you number of threads.
full member
Activity: 182
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Removing the CPU mining code from the miner would mean you'd have to rename it to G-Miner....

It sounds a bit like "Yo, Big G in da house"

Con's GPU Miner

I've tried rolling this out on a few computers (20+) with CPU mining and having to set -t all the time is very annoying. -t all or -t -2 (# CPU threads minus 2 threads) and etc will be nice.

Also, how is Hyper Threading handled? Should i set it to the number of actual cores or number of threads?
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
@ckolivas

can you implement in win32 build something like the --monitor flag from the linux ... it will be great if you could log to a file the hash rate

P.S.
i`m not exactly sure what the --monitor does in linux Cheesy i can only guess
You can already monitor the output on windows ... just as it describes in the README.txt file. (hint add: 2>log.txt)

The --monitor command allows someone to start an executable automatically with cgminer to act upon the log. That's almost certainly not what you're wanting on windows...
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
I like it. In fact, I may just remove cpu mining from windows only, especially since windows cpu mining is so slow anyway. Then I can stop getting all those morons emailing me asking me to make private versions of cgminer (for which I've refused every single time). I don't want my name associated with something that someone manages to make a botnet.

Good, now they can be redirected to ufasoft's miner and I don't have to post a bounty to not include CPU mining. Smiley

Still considering a bounty for no Windows version...
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Heh, it'd still be Con's GPU miner, so I don't need to rename it Wink
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1011
Reverse engineer from time to time
Removing the CPU mining code from the miner would mean you'd have to rename it to G-Miner....

It sounds a bit like "Yo, Big G in da house"
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Re: Symantec

The main issue is that the f**king morons at Symantec detect cgminer.exe and not the actual bot software.
Proving that you should NOT use their software since it doesn't detect the cause of the problem - it detects the WRONG file.

Seriously, if you use Symantec this is complete proof of why you should get rid of it and use some other AV software and why it is not actually protecting your PC properly.

Simple logic and simple proof.

Edit: anyone got a link to their site where I can actually tell them why I will forever now be telling people to NOT use Symantec with a better explanation Smiley (with a simple example extra proof as below)

e.g. if someone writes a bot and puts a Symantec AV file in it - will it from then on detect that Symantec file as a virus instead of the bot software that is what you should be worried about?

Edit2: a simple fix for the bot writer is to use another miner program and then the bot gets past Symantec undetected with the same bot code!
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
I'm still for CPU mining support being maintained (in spite of the fact that I don't use cgminer for cpu mining because ufasoft works better in Windows), but this might be the single best argument for removing CPU mining from cgminer.  If someone is distributing this with a botnet, they probably wouldn't bother if it couldn't CPU mine since non-user processes can't GPU mine in WinVista/7 and plenty of XP machines don't have relevant hardware.  That said, dishwara, please find out how to report this as a false positive to whoever controls "File Insight" before the other AV companies start copying the definition (not that they would do that, surely all of the AV companies find and research all of the different malwares on their own [just like they run and thoroughly test the executables which would obviousy show them that ufasoft and cgminer aren't malware]  Lips sealed)

I like it. In fact, I may just remove cpu mining from windows only, especially since windows cpu mining is so slow anyway. Then I can stop getting all those morons emailing me asking me to make private versions of cgminer (for which I've refused every single time). I don't want my name associated with something that someone manages to make a botnet.
Perhaps this comment was overkill. Obviously it can still be used to make and distribute a botnet even as a gpu miner. However I don't know how anyone can stop their application being misused by being packaged with other software and its own batch file. That's why I've been releasing them all from the same place so people can know where they're coming from.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Hi there,

Recently started using this over other miners, and I like it, but I have one problem.

Every time it starts (I start it from a batch file, or sometimes it restarts itself), the affinity is reset and it uses 100% of all 4 cores.   I can fix it by manually setting the affinity to one core, but if I'm not around (or sleeping) I can't do that.

Is there a way to force affinity on startup?
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
I'm still for CPU mining support being maintained (in spite of the fact that I don't use cgminer for cpu mining because ufasoft works better in Windows), but this might be the single best argument for removing CPU mining from cgminer.  If someone is distributing this with a botnet, they probably wouldn't bother if it couldn't CPU mine since non-user processes can't GPU mine in WinVista/7 and plenty of XP machines don't have relevant hardware.  That said, dishwara, please find out how to report this as a false positive to whoever controls "File Insight" before the other AV companies start copying the definition (not that they would do that, surely all of the AV companies find and research all of the different malwares on their own [just like they run and thoroughly test the executables which would obviousy show them that ufasoft and cgminer aren't malware]  Lips sealed)

I like it. In fact, I may just remove cpu mining from windows only, especially since windows cpu mining is so slow anyway. Then I can stop getting all those morons emailing me asking me to make private versions of cgminer (for which I've refused every single time). I don't want my name associated with something that someone manages to make a botnet.
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