Can I install an LTC full node on the BTC miner?
[1] Why would you want to?
[2] What value would it provide to you?
Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 83. (Read 48658 times)
February 03, 2022, 01:57:39 PM
[1] Why would you want to?
[2] What value would it provide to you?
February 03, 2022, 11:04:41 AM
I'm new here. Minned BTC on my discrete gpu in 2013 and sold it all at $125/₿. 
Jumping back into mining, so I bought myslef a Futurebit node/miner.
Fully agree with the DCA via electricity for Non-KYC!
Honesty, I also got one because I got scared when I saw how few nodes are protecting the Blockchain. Even more so that USA only has 1770 nodes.
Bitnodes.io
Figured it's time to step up and do my part to help the community and my own holdings.
Jumping back into mining, so I bought myslef a Futurebit node/miner.
Fully agree with the DCA via electricity for Non-KYC!
Honesty, I also got one because I got scared when I saw how few nodes are protecting the Blockchain. Even more so that USA only has 1770 nodes.
Bitnodes.ioFigured it's time to step up and do my part to help the community and my own holdings.
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Yes, that's pretty much correct. Though you don't factor in the resale value. You could run them for a year and sell them at MSRP, probably. But of course, makes little sense economically, it's much easier to just DCA.
One thing I love about home mining (esp. with sticks) is that you are DCA'ing without KYC and getting Bitcoin without KYC / AML little by little, just by paying a bit more for electricity. And with sticks you can easily 'scale'; $1000 is a lot of money for most people to spend on a miner. $200 or $250 might be easier to justify. Then after a while get a second, third, etc. - with Apollo it's obviously more like 'all in or nothing'.
One thing I love about home mining (esp. with sticks) is that you are DCA'ing without KYC and getting Bitcoin without KYC / AML little by little, just by paying a bit more for electricity. And with sticks you can easily 'scale'; $1000 is a lot of money for most people to spend on a miner. $200 or $250 might be easier to justify. Then after a while get a second, third, etc. - with Apollo it's obviously more like 'all in or nothing'.
February 03, 2022, 06:35:46 AM
It runs at around 15W, so you will probably never mine at a loss
300 GH/s earns you $18.84 a year at today's rate. You may as well buy $20 of Bitcoin and have positive return after a year (when you sell for $30), instead of buying $300 miner and never have a ROI.
Mining in a pool doesn't make sense with USB miners, only solo mining is left as a reasonable choice. Meaning, you always "mine at a loss" until you hit the block, of course, which for 99% of people, will never happen.
One thing I love about home mining (esp. with sticks) is that you are DCA'ing without KYC and getting Bitcoin without KYC / AML little by little, just by paying a bit more for electricity. And with sticks you can easily 'scale'; $1000 is a lot of money for most people to spend on a miner. $200 or $250 might be easier to justify. Then after a while get a second, third, etc. - with Apollo it's obviously more like 'all in or nothing'.
February 03, 2022, 06:32:12 AM
It runs at around 15W, so you will probably never mine at a loss
300 GH/s earns you $18.84 a year at today's rate. You may as well buy $20 of Bitcoin and have positive return after a year (when you sell for $30), instead of buying $300 miner and never have a ROI.
Mining in a pool doesn't make sense with USB miners, only solo mining is left as a reasonable choice. Meaning, you always "mine at a loss" until you hit the block, of course, which for 99% of people, will never happen.
February 03, 2022, 06:13:56 AM
I found this miner less expensive that GekkoScience Compac F for btc mining.
What's different this miner from GekkoScience Compac F?
That's wrong. A compac F will be around $250 while this is more like 4x the price.What's different this miner from GekkoScience Compac F?
And it has much more than 4x the hashpower.
1x CompacF: 300GH/s
1x Apollo: 3.8TH/s
So you would need over 10 Compacs to reach the Apollo's speed, which would cost you almost $3000, compared to ~$1000 for an Apollo.
The one point for the Compac-F is that it's super efficient. It runs at around 15W, so you will probably never mine at a loss and even if you are, you're only losing a few pennies a month.
February 03, 2022, 03:26:04 AM
I found this miner less expensive that GekkoScience Compac F for btc mining.
What's different this miner from GekkoScience Compac F?
What's different this miner from GekkoScience Compac F?
February 02, 2022, 08:12:17 PM
Can I install an LTC full node on the BTC miner?
In theory yes, it's a 'normal PC'. In practice, you'll have to see if you got the thermal headroom, CPU headroom and disk space headroom for it.Because it's a very very small 'normal PC'...
February 02, 2022, 06:11:11 PM
Can I install an LTC full node on the BTC miner?
February 02, 2022, 04:41:45 PM
Okay so what is the cable that connects 2 miners in this case. Both ends need to be what________________?
[/quote]Its a USB to Micro USB cable, but you should have received one if you ordered a standard unit.
February 02, 2022, 01:13:05 PM
Okay so what is the cable that connects 2 miners in this case. Both ends need to be what________________?
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February 02, 2022, 12:53:00 PM
verify that the cable used to connect two units is a mini usb to mini usb.
Can you give me a link to something on amazon so I know what to order as an example.
Can you give me a link to something on amazon so I know what to order as an example.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0135/3193/8875/files/mini-vs-micro-usb_large.jpg?v=1557770667
January 31, 2022, 05:21:47 PM
any built in ability for a vpn or tor?
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.
except you can't run anything which uses CPU because controller will overheat and entire miner may shutdown. That's by design to keep device quiet, apparently.
1) Blockchain IBD
2) C-Lightning setup
3) Start mining
Do you know if we can get the nice web interface that comes on the image files onto a clean Debian install (or similar)?
And where did you get the miner binary from, again?
I may be going to create a guide to replicate my setup eventually, since I see a lot of people here try to kind of do what it's advertised to do (be a full computer with potential for installing LN etc.) but have no idea how.
January 31, 2022, 04:58:35 PM
any built in ability for a vpn or tor?
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.
except you can't run anything which uses CPU because controller will overheat and entire miner may shutdown. That's by design to keep device quiet, apparently.
January 31, 2022, 03:59:24 PM
any built in ability for a vpn or tor?
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.
Except never got cpuminer to run.
January 31, 2022, 01:12:59 PM
any built in ability for a vpn or tor?
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
The full node unit is a mini desktop computer. You can install any app and configure any service you wish include both of the above.
January 31, 2022, 01:11:50 PM
I’ve had a full unit since august and it’s worked great without any issues. Recently I got a standard unit (batch 3) to connect to my full unit. I can get the standard unit mining for about 10 minutes and then it goes to inactive status. Then I have to power it off and on then restart mining to get it to start again. But it only will mine for a few minutes again before going inactive. The full unit continues mining without any issues. The red light on the standard unit has the slow red blinking light like it’s mining but it’s showing inactive in the dashboard. I’m running apollo web v0.3.2
Any ideas what the problem could be?
Any ideas what the problem could be?
Hmm, yeah I've been having the same exact problem for a while. I was hoping this most recent update would fix it, but looks like I'm still having the same issue. I have 1 full unit and 2 standard units, for some reason all 3 of them wont stay hashing at the same time and one of them will drop off after a while. It's always just one that drops off and they all keep blinking the slow pattern.
Do the yellow lights on the bottom continue to flash? The mean the board is still hashing but something is up with the USB connection. You can also try connecting the standard units to a USB hub and trying different USB ports. If a power reset/SD card re-flash does not solve it with latest firmware you can alway contact support and well take care of you.
Hello guys, just wanted to give an update on something that should have been pretty obvious, but my standard unit that was having difficulty staying on is now running smoothly again. I had actually not been doing much maintenance and went and cleared out A LOT of dust that had managed to accumulate inside the devices. After doing that, it seemed like the unit that was having difficulty hashing continuously started working well again. I think it's been stable for a little over a week now which is a huge improvement.
Just wanted to toss that out there for people having problems with their miners that might be confused as what to do, again something that should have been obvious but I'm sure I'm not the only person who forgets to dust regularly. It may just be that instead of anything wrong with the device or the firmware.
You should always do this for any high airflow device. Almost all the the units we have received that have failed over time are because of dust accumulation and high humidity.
January 31, 2022, 11:09:04 AM
any built in ability for a vpn or tor?
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
my concern is mining at home over clearnnet
January 30, 2022, 10:45:21 PM
I’ve had a full unit since august and it’s worked great without any issues. Recently I got a standard unit (batch 3) to connect to my full unit. I can get the standard unit mining for about 10 minutes and then it goes to inactive status. Then I have to power it off and on then restart mining to get it to start again. But it only will mine for a few minutes again before going inactive. The full unit continues mining without any issues. The red light on the standard unit has the slow red blinking light like it’s mining but it’s showing inactive in the dashboard. I’m running apollo web v0.3.2
Any ideas what the problem could be?
Any ideas what the problem could be?
Hmm, yeah I've been having the same exact problem for a while. I was hoping this most recent update would fix it, but looks like I'm still having the same issue. I have 1 full unit and 2 standard units, for some reason all 3 of them wont stay hashing at the same time and one of them will drop off after a while. It's always just one that drops off and they all keep blinking the slow pattern.
Do the yellow lights on the bottom continue to flash? The mean the board is still hashing but something is up with the USB connection. You can also try connecting the standard units to a USB hub and trying different USB ports. If a power reset/SD card re-flash does not solve it with latest firmware you can alway contact support and well take care of you.
Hello guys, just wanted to give an update on something that should have been pretty obvious, but my standard unit that was having difficulty staying on is now running smoothly again. I had actually not been doing much maintenance and went and cleared out A LOT of dust that had managed to accumulate inside the devices. After doing that, it seemed like the unit that was having difficulty hashing continuously started working well again. I think it's been stable for a little over a week now which is a huge improvement.
Just wanted to toss that out there for people having problems with their miners that might be confused as what to do, again something that should have been obvious but I'm sure I'm not the only person who forgets to dust regularly. It may just be that instead of anything wrong with the device or the firmware.
January 30, 2022, 12:20:47 PM
Hey all! I’m expecting my set up within the next week or two. Any recommendations on mining pools or should I try solo?
I currently use F2Pool for LTC mining.
Cheers
I currently use F2Pool for LTC mining.
Cheers
January 29, 2022, 06:18:55 PM
My standard unit shipped without the mini usb cable to connect it to the other futurebit miner i have. Also does the standard unit behave like a usb miner? where if I plug it into the computer using mini usb to usb that bfgminer would pick it up ?
Standard unit requires USB cable to work. Check again if you don't have it in the box. If not, use your own Micro-USB cable.
Yes, Standard unit is a USB miner, it requires USB connection to your computer or other controller.
Bfgminer will not pick it up, you need Futurebit closed source, proprietary miner software.
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