Topic: ***OFFICIAL*** TRUMP COIN PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN DONATION SUPERPAC FUNDER**** - page 37. (Read 40462 times)

Sorry I didn't realize it was in archival.

I moved it back into AltCoin Discussion.

Should be working again now.

Signal, please create a brand new thread.

Hey All

I'm still very much interested in remaining onboard as the media content producer/director for the coin.
Throughout all of the recent drama I've been as active as possible on /biz/, here and yobit trying to offer a positive perspective on the future of the coin and do not believe I was lying when doing so. This is a minor speed-bump in the scheme of things and I've said this since this situation first cropped up.

My skill set revolves primarily around video production but I'm also a writer as well as a marketing consultant. I have a studied grasp on the fundamentals of selling a concept and will do my best to utilise these fundamentals in any way possible provided they are utilised ethically.

I've said this time and time again but I will reiterate. This coin for me has always been about Trump and those who believed in him enough to invest in his name with their hard earned money. That's why I defended chicken65 when people suggested he'd stolen the fund and run to Costa Rica (this is why you don't list to the trollbox people), why I defended CantStump when people suggested he was the same person as chicken65 and that this was all a Tyler Durden-esque masquerade and why I defended Signal when people suggested this was a cartoonish plot to steal a fund that becomes worthless the minute anyone steals it. I didn't do this to gain favour with whichever person appeared to be most prominent in the community, I did it because I believe, even in crypto, that baseless accusations are not enough to fully condemn someone.

Yes, chicken65 has made some unwise decisions over the last few days and the direction he has in mind for the coin is dissimilar from mine and many other people here but I don't hold any resentment for the guy and respect his position as founder. I see no reason why he can't still pursue his methods of obtaining attention for the coin autonomously, in fact it should be encouraged as should the methods of any other member of this community.

There should be no inalienable leader to this thing. The American Liberal Democracy (and I say liberal in the John Stuart Mill liberty sense, not the hair-dyed save-the-whales sense) encourages above all else accountability and the separation of powers and duty, principles a coin based on an American election should take very seriously. Delegating responsibilities based on certain people's aptitudes is always a wise structure for management and prevents the error of human nature when one person has to overstretch themselves to fit roles they may not be as suited to.

The leaders for this should be a fixed point for investors to anchor to when the tides of hype and panic start to carry them away from the shores of rationality. But like all leaders their roles should be limited (as Trump's will be when he is inevitably elected into the executive position).

This is a good thing. We have an amazing community here that I'm still very much an active part of whether you elect me or not, and that community is what will take this coin into the spotlight, not the actions of any one person. I've already got two of these videos under my belt and a facebook page set up I'm more than happy to continue to run so if you need evidence of my competency give those a look. Just know that each thing I do, I try to make better than the last and the same is true for the content I am attempting to produce now. I'm glad to see the apocalyptic predictions for this coin have primarily subsided and I'm glad to see that regardless of whatever happened recently everyone is still willing to work together logically and openly for the future of the project and not for the interests of any one individual.

Cheers and let's MAGA.

PS. This is copied and pasted from Signal's thread, just my views on the situation and a re-assertion of my desire to participate in the community.

holy shit i'm packing it in that's amazing ahahah

there's no topping that

Found a great video about trumpcoin.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5g1j39gBxo

I actually agree with you. Donald Trump is constantly under attack by his opposition and we should expect to stay under that gun with him. It won't go away.

FUD causes people to google us. It's ok if they learn about us through a negative light as long as what they find is a transparent and legitimate professional operation that does good things.

Embrace it.

I believe it's actually the Fudders that will get us mainstream success and ultimately the endorsement from Trump. It's going to be when Trump is winning in the polls and they have nothing else to stop him. They'll find some backwater "scam" called Trumpcoin. They'll find people who quit after this/past PnD's and get negative soundbites. Maybe they'll get a PnD team to brag about "successfully" scamming people.

Our #1 goal should be transparency and calling out a PnD when we see one. We need to figure out the proper wording so it doesn't sound like we defend Pump and Dumps but we need newbie buyers to be aware of how Free market societies work.

I hope I worded this comment correctly. 

Best not to yet until the board has been elected

1: There will be a voting election to choose a board for the project covering a number of roles

2:  All members of the newly elected board will be fully vetted to one another. There will be at least one or more publicly visible identity to serve as spokespeople for the vetted circle to attest to the authenticity of the group. If elected I will be among the group of publicly visible spokespeople. If not I will be known as the founder. We do have to consider that me not being American could be an issue. I dont see why if Im just PR, but never the less it may bother some people.

3: After a good long Skype chat with Signal we agree the backend of the project will be in his control along with elected individuals. This includes forum thread, the .com website, the direction of the overall project. When the new website is online I will have the .rocks site removed, and I would imagine a new ANN, possibly a new thread which I dont control. I totally advocate a moderated threat though whatever the case. Nearer the election the Fud will become enormous.

4: For the time being, I (you-Chris) will continue to hold 100k of the Trump Fund and Signal7 will hold the other 100k. Both halves of the fund will be stored in publicly visible wallets and will not be moved under any circumstances before a provably fair vote occurs to decide how to properly secure the fund, with whom, and under what terms.

Ultimately I cannot do all this my self so this is the best route to go. I did have to step in a few days ago though, of that Im in no doubt. No one was leading at that point. I dont apologise for that - it wasnt as if I wanted to come
back in, its was to protect investors and the project. Now, we can move on. 


Finally, we should leave the old thread alone for obvious reasons., Its a shame we have to use a moderated thread but Im sure most of you know the Fud would again get out of hand. Theres always a new band of Fuds just around the corner.

Chris, can we settle your identity and tweet out that you are the creator of Trumpcoin? Thanks

EDIT: Also, great beats man, good stuff! Checked out your youtube on my lunchbreak.

Ok dep fair enough. Welcome back 

Make a multisig wallet give it to someone in the community to hold offline to avoid attacks . This is simple solution

Thank you Chris.

When I met you in the beginning, I perceived you as an honest and trustworthy individual and have offered and provided you with a tremendous amount of support throughout the history of TrumpCoin. I also know you to be a fun and likeable guy that I have enjoyed working with, very much at times.

There has been a lot of confusion lately in regards to leadership and accountability. My understanding is that you delegated management to CantStump & Co. in order to free your own time for other ventures.

I want to state for the record that I was in no way included in this decision and had zero part in any of the previous re-org. After the re-org occurred, CantStump contacted me and invited me to become the project's new "Tech Director" to which my answer was, "sure."

A new website was uploaded to my servers and published under the trumpcoin.com domain that contained a TrumpFund Donation address of TM2G3c1EdfVRvHV23eMiQdX4tVrNuN3KzW

Chicken, do you own the private key to this address? Do you know who does? Does anyone know who's address this is? I don't.

Please take a moment to go to the working public block explorer at http://www.vicenet.org:3001 and take a look at the above address.
(The "official" explorer advertised on trumpcoin.rocks is still in shambles - wrong coin supply, incorrect wallet amounts, more coins listed in the top 100 than in circulation)

In my attempts to unravel everything on my own, I found it extremely difficult to locate the TrumpFund. I tracked it in and out of exchanges and passing through many wallets when not on exchange.

These are all red flags to me and present a moral dilemma and I cannot in good conscience support and promote this project under these terms.




Obviously, I nominate myself as a temporary trustee of the central fund. I am a U.S. citizen and I believe I have a history of supporting this project and working fairly with others that support it. If allowed to hold the fund until a real treasury is established, I will stake it in a well known public address and not move it without a solid consensus. I am happy to participate in a multi-sig solution to establish a trustless solution, if that is the desire of the community.




Chicken, this next part is difficult to say in a respectful manner but the public image of this project is really bad. It looks like a scam from the outside. All of our "Official" media is plagued with typos, bad grammar, misspellings and mission statements that do not align with mission practice. This is why there has been so much effort lately to bring up new sites, etc. We are trying really hard to overshadow your material with a more professional one. I mean no offense to you. It just is what it is. Please let those of us that are real professionals in marketing and IT take this aspect over.

I have told you this in private and now again here in public - I understand human nature. We all make bad decisions and I believe you have made a few. I think you're a decent guy that has done much for TrumpCoin and I know that you do want to continue with us. You created this thing but you need all of us to make it great. Let me help you. Please stand down from your leadership role and the public face of this coin and allow us to elect a proper board of officials and begin the democratic procedures to run this thing in the way it was originally outlined by you. It can start today, right now. We can come back from all of this with greatness.



EDIT: I would like to add that I think you should run for a seat on a new board that better fits your experience and skillset. I don't believe your position should be of highest leadership (like you have said before, you have your own business, it's suffering, and your time is valuable). I do not wish to see you ousted. I wish to see you better-fulfilled in your role.

Wow, I didnt even know that was possible. That sounds like a great idea. And provide the address to that wallet so people can donate to it and add to the Trump fund.

I agree, the wallet holder should be a Trump Fan, a USA citizen and a very respected member of the Crypto community.

I also agree that the FUD needs to stop and that a moderated topic will be necessary. People need to understand that Trump attracts alot of aggressive opponents that try to undermine efforts to support Trump. I think that with full transparency with the leadership team no one will have a problem with this.

I do believe thats how it should be - and the offer if donating to the fund is great.

Glad to see you here Signal. I do beleive we can fix this.  
I do think there has been a misunderstanding perhaps created via the explorer which I fully admit can be confusing. It hasnt helped that its been malfunctioning
for most of this project, again not helpful. It is working now but I gotta admit even then it can still be confusing. That link you showed me could only be mining
rewards. I honestly don’t know. If that was what set your alarm bells off I can understand that.

 As per our conversation I agree that my moving the Trump Fund around at my own leisure was wrong. Part of that was due to INIDEMAX PC issues, partly me moving
it between various wallets and yes I did move the entire fund in to Yobit a few months ago to show a huge wall and try and stop the price suppression. I was
trying to send a message to whoever was continuously margin trading. This was during the time the price wasnt getting above 3.5k for weeks
on end which was a tad frustrating as Trump was winning all those primaries. I moved in 450k of which 200k was the Trump fund and 250k of my own.
I kept not only the Trump Fund in the same wallet but also some of my own coins. Disorganised, wrong to move it, definitely error in judgement.
In fact the only reason the Trump Fund was used in among my own coins is I couldnt get the wallet out of staking mode (my own one) which at that
time there was 400k (me and Z’s coins). Wouldnt let me send the entire amount so resorted to the Trump Fund. But it is important - I did ask you to help
with that. Still, thats no excuse for my actions.

 Ultimately though the fund was never in any danger and of course I didn’t set up a a huge wall to sell it. No way was it going to be eaten. I even posted on
the Yobit troll box to the supressor remove your walls (his were always 0.1) but enough to prevent people buying to much. He used a bot, earning around
0.2 BTC per day doing rinse and repeat for weeks. I bought his walls many times and they would just reapper and back down to 3-3.5k.

I dont claim to be the most organised person and can be forgetful. I do have a day job (my small company) which has taken a hit as well. Not a sob story
just the reality of what happens when dealing with a Crypto project.  I will certainly try and do better there.

From our Skype convos its no surprise going by what you said  you thought something was going on. Still, the evidence does prove that I wasnt selling off
the Trump Fund. Carelessness, and frustration at the lack of price movement (at that time) is my error. Then through all that theres been an enormous amount
of fund and to be fair I have been the only one to really attempt to deal with this. A few days ago was pretty heavy being blamed for something I had no part of.
CantStump should move on. I know he was enthusiastic in the early days but he bacially admitted to me he deserved a pay day and he was all in on that PND.
Fine, but he can move on now hes had his pay day. I dont beleive he was s good choice and with hindsight I should have known.
He had already vanished from the scene and only re- appeared when I asked for someone to take over teh admin role. Within 10 days we had the PND and then a lot of upset
people who may have bought in high.
……………………………………………………………………..


Moving on. Im open for any suggestions regarding the Trump Fund. Realistically though - we need to stop suggestions such as Alkex Jones, Milo, and various other celebrities.
Those type of suggestions are not realistic at all. Not saying you suggest those people -  but even getting in contact with them is incredibly difficult, never mind asking them to play
the role of Crypto Coin Fund Keeper. Needs to be someone involved in Crypto. If you want to hold it state your case. In fact it will have to be a US citizen at some point.

Wht is also important is we have some rather destructive people involved now and they need to be ostracised.
They encourage the fud whilst playing at being supportive but its under a thin veil of deceit. They never actually talk about Trump in any postive way.
Im not talking about the average trader who doesnt care about the election and has no opinion of Trump, Im fine with them and they are needed to.
Its the ones who always end up in any anti group. They always seem to support the extreme trouble makers - again always through a thin veil of support.
They are not for Trump - we are. I do know your a Trump Supporter, butthose elements need to go because they simply create confusuion and division

I have a youtube interview coming up so it would be good if I can go in there and have the team back together

Come on home Signal and lets make this happen  

All this Trumpcoin drama is affecting Mr. Trump's polls. 

It is time to join forces again. We are on a good way as it seems, let's move on this way, have things sorted out and move towards a bright future of this coin.