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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 157. (Read 723903 times)

hero member
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Not sure if this was addressed before, but why is the max LTC order size 2000 now!? It's a pretty annoying feature that was implemented. Can we go back to at least 5000 please?

anyone?

This doesnt make sense... LTC price is going lower and the lower it is people would probably have a higher lot size

Why would bfx restrict it to 2k per order

That makes it incredibly annoying for someone who wants to do a 10k or 20k LTC order

Probably to prevent "manipulation" trying to farm the stops, But with this low price 2k LTC is way too capped.

We'll update this very shortly to a more sensitive limit.

Raphael
hero member
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Hello
When I withdraw via wire transfer It says "Invalid account name, please put the real account name"
But "Beneficiary Name" was grey so I can not write any thing in it. I don't know why. I had withdrawal successfully many times before.
Best regard.

Hello Romoantic,

Please contact us at [email protected] to confirm your verification details, this happen because your details ar enot up to date on our platform


have a good day
Raphael
member
Activity: 102
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Hello
When I withdraw via wire transfer It says "Invalid account name, please put the real account name"
But "Beneficiary Name" was grey so I can not write any thing in it. I don't know why. I had withdrawal successfully many times before.
Best regard.
sr. member
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Not sure if this was addressed before, but why is the max LTC order size 2000 now!? It's a pretty annoying feature that was implemented. Can we go back to at least 5000 please?

anyone?

This doesnt make sense... LTC price is going lower and the lower it is people would probably have a higher lot size

Why would bfx restrict it to 2k per order

That makes it incredibly annoying for someone who wants to do a 10k or 20k LTC order

Probably to prevent "manipulation" trying to farm the stops, But with this low price 2k LTC is way too capped.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 10
Not sure if this was addressed before, but why is the max LTC order size 2000 now!? It's a pretty annoying feature that was implemented. Can we go back to at least 5000 please?

anyone?

This doesnt make sense... LTC price is going lower and the lower it is people would probably have a higher lot size

Why would bfx restrict it to 2k per order

That makes it incredibly annoying for someone who wants to do a 10k or 20k LTC order
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 509
I have a question for everyone getting these errors. Are they normal buys around the current price or are they longshot buys, far below the actual value of the coin?

I didn't get the error until putting in a very low, longshot buy order.
hero member
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My "Tradable Balance" is good. Still, I can't borrow money. It says "Invalid offer: not enough margin balance" with all amounts.
Anyone else has this problem?

This is serious, I can't work that way!
Please, fix this ASAP!

Ente

I´m having the same(similiar) problem, tradable balance shows a few k $ but i cannot borrow anymore BTC. Problem exists since ~12 h ago.

Edit:

And another one:

Unable to buy on BFX  Angry

Could we get some info please?
legendary
Activity: 2126
Merit: 1001
My "Tradable Balance" is good. Still, I can't borrow money. It says "Invalid offer: not enough margin balance" with all amounts.
Anyone else has this problem?

This is serious, I can't work that way!
Please, fix this ASAP!

Ente
newbie
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Merit: 11
I need to verify my account, email already sent in everything that will ask, since I sent the site, and already for more than 72 hours, you really need all this time? 'm losing sales, there is more that you need some document ?? I urgently need to buy btc
legendary
Activity: 1870
Merit: 1023
It only takes a dollar to place bids for 100k btc at 1/100000th of a dollar each.

You need to measure the bids in USD.

And the reason people bid that low is because for a very small investment you could make a great return if there was a flash crash that ate through all of Bitfinex's order book.
member
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I'm struggling to understand some numbers appearing in the Bitfinex order book.

https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/ll_order_book

Upon scrolling to the bottom, one finds this.



The bid side looks particularly odd/unnatural.  Huh

Let me be more specific: 80% of the total orderbook is under $0.1

Are those bids really backed by real collateral funds held on the exchange(s)?

anyone have a good explanation?
member
Activity: 210
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Not sure if this was addressed before, but why is the max LTC order size 2000 now!? It's a pretty annoying feature that was implemented. Can we go back to at least 5000 please?
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000
total USD swapped drop to 21 mil.  More margin calls and could be headed for total wipe out for longs if we head down to 350.

Don't assume that big players exiting big positions are getting margin called, those play with huge sums of money tend to sell voluntarily when they are in danger of getting a red position.

http://www.coindesk.com/margin-trading-crash-price-bitcoin/

Just read this article. There are two alleged statements of Bitfinex in it. Where did BFX write that? Giancarlo said before that BFX has so far denied any interview requests, have you changed your policy?

The rest of the article is pretty retarded though. Of course margin trading played a role in this crash as it was the main driver behind the jump from 450 to 680.  

That article, like many, call it "market manipulation" and "insider trading" when big players enter or exit big positions. It's called "trading". Yes, you have "insider knowledge" when you know that you are about to enter a huge short which will move the "market" but it is hardly fair to call that "manipulation"...

Agree with you.
This was nothing special. Price followed the parallel trendchannel we covered at www.bitcoinbullbear.com perfectly and the margin calls did not lead to unusual trading.

As you said, this is part of trading. That's why its called trading and not long jump.

member
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During the recent limited flash crash, did BFX use the half-breaker idea i proposed back in february to blunt it? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5060308

The behaviour of the BFX during this time seems to suggest it has. Price goes wildly out of sync due to cascade liquidation, trading is halted for a minute to allow bids to rebuild, trading is resumed when depth is better, liquidation is trickled in the process repeats until the price is back in sync with bitstamp.

Good work on BFX for blunting the crash. I'm very happy that i wasn't liquidated (at least not yet, who knows how low we go in the future Wink.


... do i get a small reward for the winning idea? Cheesy

BFX definitely use breaker as you suggested to deal with recent flash crash.

reddit article:
Bitfinex Margin Call Cascade Algorithm Explained & How to Avoid It With Market Wide Circuit Breaker Systems Used by NASDAQ
http://www.matlabtrading.net/main/2014/08/14/bitfinex-margin-call-cascade-algorithm-explained/
newbie
Activity: 16
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During the recent limited flash crash, did BFX use the half-breaker idea i proposed back in february to blunt it? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5060308

The behaviour of the BFX during this time seems to suggest it has. Price goes wildly out of sync due to cascade liquidation, trading is halted for a minute to allow bids to rebuild, trading is resumed when depth is better, liquidation is trickled in the process repeats until the price is back in sync with bitstamp.

Good work on BFX for blunting the crash. I'm very happy that i wasn't liquidated (at least not yet, who knows how low we go in the future Wink.


... do i get a small reward for the winning idea? Cheesy
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
http://www.coindesk.com/margin-trading-crash-price-bitcoin/

Just read this article. There are two alleged statements of Bitfinex in it. Where did BFX write that? Giancarlo said before that BFX has so far denied any interview requests, have you changed your policy?

The rest of the article is pretty retarded though. Of course margin trading played a role in this crash as it was the main driver behind the jump from 450 to 680. 
legendary
Activity: 1870
Merit: 1023
If Darkcoin continues to fall, you might want to stop supporting it. It is less than 1/400th of the market cap of Bitcoin.  As such, it isn't worth the space that it takes up in the user interface or the additional software development.

Or at least seriously think about whether it is a good idea before adding any more alt-coins.
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
total USD swapped drop to 21 mil.  More margin calls and could be headed for total wipe out for longs if we head down to 350.

At least only 5% of my USD is left lent out Smiley
hero member
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total USD swapped drop to 21 mil.  More margin calls and could be headed for total wipe out for longs if we head down to 350.
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
Hats off to Bitfinex team and Congratulations for perfect handling of the margin call liquidations !!! This was really something, I watched it all in real time.
To everybody else, it is now official, we have some 30 million worth of morons among users, who were holding onto their losing long positions till the very end.  I am trully sorry about your losses, but you did knew perfectly well, all along, about what could happen to your positions, and it did happened.

Quite a harsh statement.

But please, enlighten me, how exactly did it unfold on bitfinex?

Ente
Harsh statement indeed yet it is fully correct.
I've always assumed the clientele on BFX would behave similar to regular forex sites: Using 2% to 5% of their funds for single trades, setting tight stop losses and avoiding margin calls under every possible cirumstance. From what I've read in BFX statements in the last weeks and what has happened now I can only assume that BFX clients are not usual forex traders but delusional maniacs.
According to BFX:
most people hold Bitcoin not Dollar on BFX for long positions -> less traders, more believers
a lot of them go long on maximum margin -> 100 % funds in trade, crazy, maxing out their full leverage, no room to breath left
waiting for the margin call -> an attitude you will go broke with 100 % of the time on a large enough scale.

I'm very glad BFX has managed this cascade so well but this is absolutely not over yet. Just think about it: The total sum of active swaps dropped over 16 %. The rest are probably not disciplined traders but just people who went retard-long at a lower price. If I think about who had my money in his hands I'm shivering. It's only thanks to the competence of BFX so far that this train is still running.
In other news, I'm guessing USD swap rates may fall as low as 0.03%/day.
Very, very easily possible. We went from 30.9 m in the last week to 23.5. Although yesterday I've seen over 4 m taken out in less than an hour we are still lower than directly after the flash crash and the sentiment is not exactly bullish at the moment. Over 2m swaps BEFORE THE FFR which is over 3m itself have piled up and I'm sure not all the money that has been returned during the flash crash is back on the offer book. Estimating from the current stats we would need a new all time high in swaps to get back over 0.1 %.
Lenders are in for a rough time and I hope some casuals will take their money off BFX because that safe, ultra high interest savings account has popped along with the credit bubble and will not be too attractive for quite some time.
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