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legendary
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This definitely looks suspicious.

Here we go again. That really is all you can come up with.

(Cex and Bitfinex have the same banking details / use the same banking processor)

These two things are completely different. The first one is untrue as they are different account numbers. The second one is true and is absolutely normal.


IT IS the same bank account number (one for USD and one for EURO). how can you lie like that?  How can you say that "The first one is untrue as they are different account numbers"?

they are using the same payment processor so stop spreading lies. not all of us are sheep Smiley

Bitfinex had their official accounts CLOSED due to their illegal activities. No bank will accept their criminal company. That payment processor will have its bank account closed soon.

As payment processor you cannot accept to send wires or to receive funds from unknown sources. That means Cryptocapital must make the due diligence for Bitfinex; to verify all their clients. this thing is not happening...


hero member
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This is framed very deceptively by you. Bitfinex didn´t choose to outsource. They were forced to do so after being dropped by Wells Fargo and having no real banking for retail customers for several months.

I would argue that your framing is far more pejorative than me pointing out that many companies outsource and that nothing suspicious should be read into that. You made plenty out of the fact they didn't have retail banking for so long and now they have it again you are determined to frame that as bad.

Isn´t it suspicious that both Cex and Bitfinex that use CryptoCapital as a payment processor shut down registrations at the same time?
Of course all exchanges are drowning in support requests and new registrations, but most handle it very differently.

So if it turns out that it is CryptoCapital that is overwhelmed with new account requests, so what?

I know that we have been arguing in this thread for months, but what makes you think that my claims are less probable to be true than your claims? We both can be right or wrong, because we are both speculating without having the ability to look into the database or the bank accounts of Cex, Bitfinex or Tether. The whole point of having a discussion board is the ability to articulate theories, arguments and so on.

I would frame it as you are making claims and I'm trying to point out what is wrong with them.

A newbie, who enters this thread can decide, whether my speculations or your refutations
of my claims are more probable to be true.

This is exactly why I respond.
sr. member
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...

Seriously?

Company A doesn't outsource but company B does outsource so it must be a scam. You surpass yourself.

This is framed very deceptively by you. Bitfinex didn´t choose to outsource. They were forced to do so after being
dropped by Wells Fargo and having no real banking for retail customers for several months.

...

You are spreading falsehoods in this case simply by pointing to something and then trying to frame it as suspicious when it is anything but.


Isn´t it suspicious that both Cex and Bitfinex that use CryptoCapital as a payment processor shut down registrations at the same time?
Of course all exchanges are drowning in support requests and new registrations, but most handle it very differently.

Bitstamp:
https://www.bitstamp.net/article/update-high-demand/

Kraken:
https://blog.kraken.com/post/1399/degraded-service-upgrade-next-week/

...


These exchanges probably have even more volume then a sketchy exchange like Cex.io, yet they didn´t suspend registrations.
I don´t frame an innocuous event as suspicious, I point to a measure by Cex and Bitfinex that wasn´t adopted by
most exchanges that face exactly the same problems - or arguably even worse problems.

I know that we have been arguing in this thread for months, but what makes you think that my claims are less probable
to be true than your claims? We both can be right or wrong, because we are both speculating without having the ability
to look into the database or the bank accounts of Cex, Bitfinex or Tether. The whole point of having a discussion board
is the ability to articulate theories, arguments and so on.

A newbie, who enters this thread can decide, whether my speculations or your refutations
of my claims are more probable to be true.



hero member
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Why doesn´t Bitstamp use a 3rd party payment processor?
Why doesn´t Gemini use a 3rd party payment processor?

Seriously?

Company A doesn't outsource but company B does outsource so it must be a scam. You surpass yourself.

The internet is filled with scam accusations against this very company (CryptoCapital).

If you hadn't noticed the internet is filled up with scam accusations against nearly everyone involved in crypto, that's always been the way in this game. About 99% of them must have been proven to have no basis in fact.

Of course my posts are speculations as of now

They are far more than speculations. You are spreading falsehoods in this case simply by pointing to something and then trying to frame it as suspicious when it is anything but.
sr. member
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...The second one is true and is absolutely normal.


Why doesn´t Bitstamp use a 3rd party payment processor?
Why doesn´t Gemini use a 3rd party payment processor?
...

The legit exchanges can get real banking and don´t need to resort to a sketchy
3rd party payment processor from Panama. Take some time and actually
make a Google search for the name of the payment processor. The internet
is filled with scam accusations against this very company (CryptoCapital).

Of course my posts are speculations as of now, but you won´t be able to have
proof until it is too late and the exchanges have been shut down.
hero member
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This definitely looks suspicious.

Here we go again. That really is all you can come up with.

(Cex and Bitfinex have the same banking details / use the same banking processor)

These two things are completely different. The first one is untrue as they are different account numbers. The second one is true and is absolutely normal.
sr. member
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Tether and Bitfinex are a criminal gang. I will keep saying this until they will be closed (soon).
You are free to make false claims as long as you like, the rest of us will continue to disbelieve you until you bring proof. Less defamation, more (or any) facts.

How about the fact that neither Cex.io nor Bitfinex are accepting registrations
at the moment? If one of them disabled registrations due to a huge surge of sign-ups
I wouldn´t say anything, but both at the same time?

This definitely looks suspicious.

(Cex and Bitfinex have the same banking details / use the same banking processor)

Pab
legendary
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Tether and Bitfinex are a criminal gang. I will keep saying this until they will be closed (soon).

Tethers are created from thin air. There are not deposits of 1 billions USD. Let's remember both Tether and Bitfindex had no official bank account since April when their bank closed the accounts.

What kind of idiot would send millions/hundreds of millions to a criminal company, unlicensed, hacked for 3 times, without any real office? Let's get real ! Smiley  It's the next BTC-e.

Tether must be backed of USD as it's written on their website but it's not.

Sure you want evidence https://medium.com/@untetheredbtc/how-the-tether-usdt-distribution-system-works-84a5c673bec0

proof will be whan your will went to 5k https://twitter.com/Bitfinexed
legendary
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Tether and Bitfinex are a criminal gang. I will keep saying this until they will be closed (soon).
You are free to make false claims as long as you like, the rest of us will continue to disbelieve you until you bring proof. Less defamation, more (or any) facts.

Competitors and even Bcash supporters are encouraged to spread fud about Bitfinex. But anyway I still don’t get who would want to send real USD in exchange of Tethers. Actually it may make sense now that Tethers are worth more than $1 in exchanges
full member
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Tether and Bitfinex are a criminal gang. I will keep saying this until they will be closed (soon).
You are free to make false claims as long as you like, the rest of us will continue to disbelieve you until you bring proof. Less defamation, more (or any) facts.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
Tether and Bitfinex are a criminal gang. I will keep saying this until they will be closed (soon).

Tethers are created from thin air. There are not deposits of 1 billions USD. Let's remember both Tether and Bitfindex had no official bank account since April when their bank closed the accounts.

What kind of idiot would send millions/hundreds of millions to a criminal company, unlicensed, hacked for 3 times, without any real office? Let's get real ! Smiley  It's the next BTC-e.

Tether must be backed of USD as it's written on their website but it's not.
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1047
Bitfinex is an illegal company

How many times do I have to explain this to you mayax? Bitfinex is not doing anything illegal and your misunderstanding of licencing requirements doesn't alter that.

yes, you are right. Tethers is created from thin air.

There is not one shred of evidence to back up these false claims and plenty of evidence to support that Tethers are 100% backed by real USD.


I have been lending on Bitfinex for months and would like to keep doing so, but honestly I’m scared about this Tether stuff, so I withdrew. I know both competitors and Bcash supporters have interest in talking shit about Bitfinex, but I don’t understand the point of Tethers. Why would anyone exchange USD for them instead of directly buying BTC with USD?
The main point of USDT is in the transfer of money and less in trading, although it's now being used as a USD substitute on exchanges like Poloniex.

Here's how I use it. On my Polo account i have not only crypto, but also a lot of USDT from crypto i sold recently. Then i saw that the interest rate for lending on Bitfinex was quite high, so i began sending my USDT to Bitfinex. Without Tether, i would have had to first convert to BTC, send to Bitfinex and then convert back to USD.

I perfectly understand that. I’m talking about when Tether are originally created. In theory for a Tether to be created, someone must before send them one real USD. Tether market cap is over 1200 million now. Who is depositing that much money to Tether in exchange of tokens?

I’m very tempted to lend BTC as I did in the past (and euros if it’s possible to just send them a bank transfer). However I’m very worried about this Tether stuff, as I don’t get who can be originally sending fiat in exchange of those tokens.
full member
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I created a support ticket and got a confirmation email with instructions how to add additional info if needed. It tells me to reply to the mail, but the sender is [email protected] so my reply is returned with an "address not found" message. Does anyone know how to contact them by mail because i can only see webforms on their site. (of course i could guess and send it to [email protected], but i'd like to be sure).
full member
Activity: 141
Merit: 101
Bitfinex is an illegal company

How many times do I have to explain this to you mayax? Bitfinex is not doing anything illegal and your misunderstanding of licencing requirements doesn't alter that.

yes, you are right. Tethers is created from thin air.

There is not one shred of evidence to back up these false claims and plenty of evidence to support that Tethers are 100% backed by real USD.


I have been lending on Bitfinex for months and would like to keep doing so, but honestly I’m scared about this Tether stuff, so I withdrew. I know both competitors and Bcash supporters have interest in talking shit about Bitfinex, but I don’t understand the point of Tethers. Why would anyone exchange USD for them instead of directly buying BTC with USD?
The main point of USDT is in the transfer of money and less in trading, although it's now being used as a USD substitute on exchanges like Poloniex.

Here's how I use it. On my Polo account i have not only crypto, but also a lot of USDT from crypto i sold recently. Then i saw that the interest rate for lending on Bitfinex was quite high, so i began sending my USDT to Bitfinex. Without Tether, i would have had to first convert to BTC, send to Bitfinex and then convert back to USD.
hero member
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Bitfinex seems to be a LOT faster now, on my end. I hope its not just some temporary glitch  Grin
newbie
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i req withdraw 187.312 iota but cancelled
after that my wallet shows 96 iota
what happenned to my iota?
i have no open order

You need to open a support ticket. Bitfinex no longer monitors this thread.
Would that help? already a week from the support waiting for an answer.
hero member
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Apparently on December 17th I got my margin funding twice and then 1 1/2 hours later someone did an "Adjustment" to remove the amount again... Grin

The same thing happened to me. I guess that means that it happened to everyone. I suppose it could have been a fat finger, someone ran the script twice by mistake possibly.
legendary
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Apparently on December 17th I got my margin funding twice and then 1 1/2 hours later someone did an "Adjustment" to remove the amount again... Grin
hero member
Activity: 2576
Merit: 883
Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2
i req withdraw 187.312 iota but cancelled
after that my wallet shows 96 iota
what happenned to my iota?
i have no open order

You need to open a support ticket. Bitfinex no longer monitors this thread.
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
i req withdraw 187.312 iota but cancelled
after that my wallet shows 96 iota
what happenned to my iota?
i have no open order
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