Topic: OGNasty abuse of rank to ruin accounts in good standing (Read 2710 times)

LOL.. he spends his entire life on this stupid forum, that's what filthy rich people do ya know?!

lol @ Circle of cuntness....

How miserable is your life when you hinge "making it" to a virtual btctalk persona ?   Congrats on making it, c u next tuesday!

should Og Be Removed from DT1 [POLL] and OG arrest record

more like... OG is a cunt.. acts like a bigger cunt... so more people call him out for being a cunt...

i call it the circle of cuntness

I take it OG hasn't removed the neg.. such a shame that the person running the oldest asset in crypto is such a punk now.

He had even resorted to spinning up alts

Telegram and slack seem to be the goto medium for coin info.  Good thing is i dont have negative feedback there.  😂🤣    youtube also is pretty useful.  I recall whwn there were less than 30 coins, now we're well over 1k coins. 

Nasty is still a ho fo'sho.  🖕

With mini hitlers bullying people.. this used to be a great community. Now people just connect here then move to slack or telegram. The trust system is worthless and sig spammers are just as cancerous

Ye its now 100% Ico and signature bounty camp scam spam, so dissapointing.

A cell soldier is someone in jail that sells wolf tickets and pops off at the mouth from his cell knowing damn well when the doors open up for either yard, day room, pill call, etc.. that inmate will not leave his cell for fear of a face to face confrontation.  Hence the term cell soldier/fake tough guy. 

got ya brother...

this place needs a shake up, its a shame as theymos could make some real money out of this place if it wasn't for a shitty outdated trust system and 3rd world sig spammers.

What is a cell soldier? Like a terrorist cell? Do I have to worry about being bombed around here lol 

Ha!  Most definitely, the forum was a lot different back in 2013.  Too many cell soldiers and keyboard warriors. 

There are two risks with standing up to a DT1 member, one is getting excluded (which doesn't really do much if there's only 1 exclusion) and the other one is getting neg. rated. We know that theymos is very careful/slow with DT changes and such conflict could take weeks/months to resolve (if ever). Although, I don't recall many direct conflicts between a DT2 and a DT1 member.

DT2 could also be petitioned to negate the feedback, assuming the DT2 member wanted to risk Og excluding them. 



Was it multiple scam accusations getting bumped or just one?

I'm surprised Og wouldn't have removed the feedback if he concluded the account owner was in fact the original but maybe I'm misunderstanding his concerns with the account.

That is correct. DT1 is theymos trust list then DT2 is people they trust. But if you do not trust anyone in the DT list you can exclude them from your own list. As I don't trust OG I removed him from mine as a number of other users have as well

TMAN isn't part of DT anyway.

Dude OG nasty is running an illegal asset that has depreciated from .27BTC to .003BTC per share.. he bullies people due to his status as DT1.. you don't see anyone else on DT1 who is as shady as OG

All you people in default trust need to get your egos in check. I read about your conflict with OG and I'm 10% dumber now, should only use your tagging abilities to mark scammers, not get into pissing contests over trivialities, it serves no purpose.

Hey eoakland.. I think I want to be your buddy. It is such a shame where this forum is heading

I may just have to challenge that guy to a fist to cuffs, each man puts up 5 btc on it for a winner take all.  There can only be one! 🤣😂

I believe this to be the case with DT1.

The only other option is to PM theymos and/or Cyrus. Other than that, if OgNasty doesn't remove it himself, it will stay there.

Msgs have been sent, no update.  Perhaps nothing can be done--just does not seem right.  Blatant abuse.

It appears this is not an isolated instance.  There seems to be a pattern that has formed with rank abuse and "painting accounts red".

I was always under the impression you neg someone for scams and for cheating someone on a transaction...since when do we neg on unproven suspicion...then double down on the losing bet when it is proven the suspicion is incorrect ? This is blatant abuse no way around it. 
Anyone reading the PMs between me and the butthead can see he was getting off on being a dick and ego tripping.  I wonder how ballsy that person is in real life when dealing with someone face to face...my money is on not very, fetal position all day every day for that person.  🤣😂

I can confirm that OGNasty abused his rank to give me a blatant lie negative feedback about my account in good standing.

I gave him a negative feedback for promoting the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam and thereafter he extorted me to remove this feedback or otherwise he will give me the negative feedback that my account is an alt of TwitchySeal:


Hole story with proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16251261



 

Then that would kill off the "self policing" theory and toss it back to Theymos.

There was a exclusion test once, but I don't want to say who was participating in it, and 2 DT1 exclusions of another DT1 member did absolutely nothing. Therefore, it was always my belief that DT1 members can never kick out another DT1 member. IMO ask theymos.

Good point, maybe we need Cyrus or Theymos to clarify this.

I figured that since: 1 DT1 inclusion is *disabled* by 2 DT1 exclusions (which is what temporarily happened to me) once, that the same goes for higher up.

Where did you get the 2 exclusions from? You would have to get more than 2.

Two DT1 exclusions won't kick out another DT1 member. What would that accomplish?

Good looking out; Thanks!

i didnt even know that was possible.  I will see if i can find info within the forums search function to find out how to do so.  Enjoy your day boss

The only thing you can do at this point is to petition the D1 users to exclude OG.
The Trust system works fairly well if the self policing works.

I can't verify/vouch the proven scammer part, but definitely abuses his rank--that is 100% certain.

And what's with folks getting irritated with accounts that take a break from the forum; when exactly did that become a frowned upon ?

This forum has changed night and day from the time i initially joined.  When Donators neg accounts for posting supportive opinions on an open thread you know things need to change. Just read the bogus neg i got.  Not once in those several PMs did he ask me for a signed msg to prove my ID.  He was too busy getting off on his "power trip" .  Now both the butthead's account and my own sport that same retarded negative trust.  The trust/reputation rating is definitely compromised and broken. Things need to change.

"Proven", "scammer", really?

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Your account suddenly got really active / spammy. Also, there's a posting gap between 2015 and 2017. Some things are obvious.

This is what surprised me the most though. I would have expected him to neg. rate you, given the indicators of a sold/hacked accounts, if you had posted a comment supporting TMAN's accusation. However, you did the exact opposite.

Yeah. It is not likely that you're going to get enrolled anywhere.

his neg trust got me booted from a signature campaign and it will keep me out of any future campaigns.

This is exactly why i was so pissed.  I preserved my account in good standing for several years only to have this butt head ruin it and any possible btc i would have made by participating in forum campaigns.  This ain't right at all. 

Week5
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LcEG7zHkvRoF_Oj6mWyCfVd9YVbcUaiffSPl-a_97kk/htmlview#gid=0

Give people just a little bit more authority than everyone else and it all goes to their head, from tagging people they simply don't like to extorting "criminals". Meanwhile people that should be tagged run the most blatant scams over and over again. Great trust system we got there.

Yep, my initial post was supportive. He negged my account for posting a supportive comment on an open forum thread.  It's not like i drudged up a super old thread, prior post was 1 or 2 days prior to my own.  The dude is a bully point-blank.  Even after all of his points to neg my account were proven false he has doubled down on his losing bet. 

As Conor McGregor would say "fook him"

Well, your name randomly popping up in that scam accusation against OgNasty was strange to me as well. I did look into your account, but wasn't too sure about tagging you.

Well, people interpret stuff differently and thus also respond differently.

Did you? I either have missed out on that or you did not. I thought your first comment about OgNasty was supportive, but now I can't seem to find it.

I never deserved it to begin with. I started out polite enough and explained myself to nasty when i really had no reason to do so.  He has gotten his rocks off on it.  What exactly did he neg me for....changing my PW, taking a break from the forum?   Now he added some bs about me trolling.  The dude (nasty) is a flat out bully.  

What exactly is the infraction that was committed to warrant a neg ?  The guy is acting like a forum narc and barked up the wrong tree.  He abused his rank to ruin my account, and yet he claims i am attempting to ruin his name and projects he is involved in, when in fact he did this to me. The dude's wiring is off.  

This is as much a black-eye on his face as it is on mine (if not more).  So when i signed the message "fuck ognasty" i meant it and still do, fuck that puto.  

Now I see it. Thanks. I usually look for errors in the message.

This does indeed verify. However, signing a text like that is not exactly what you want to be doing if you want the negative rating to go away.

Ah, yes I missed the "=" at the end, will edit and fix it.

I verified using Electrum.
The signature is just missing the '=', so here's the actual full signed message w/o any unwanted characters enclosed in quotes:

Address: "14PzFeS53AoERv5MiWEAeWxDCvZZMT37Jf"
Message: "Fuck ognasty from eoakland"
Signature: "INvEoeCw408t6NKmCfXgx8U6qLjXpN6gIjjsSC4YmE8hN9eKv8nXFf79n5vmcGyLpnYHhQterdRBNpC z4FnpGz4="

The signature does not verify in Bitcoin Core. Are there any trailing spaces or new lines?

I believe people like OGNasty should be example of the good community here and not impulsive reactions.
He's trusted and have proved his self as someone.
But as trusted one, he should double think and also give second chance to people.
Everyone in his life someday somehow needs second chance, and we should think about that before we judge impulsive.
My two cents.

Read his new scam accusation explanation. Lol. I clearly messaged him, explained all, providing enough evidence to lay ownership of my account. 

What is this guy smoking?    #ognasty-metoo


Recently changed password. Long posting history gap. Suddenly joining signature campaign and becoming active. Likely a purchased account used for signature spamming. Rather than provide a simple explanation of their behavior or a signed message proving their claim, this user started bumping frivolous scam threads against me, creating their own scam threads against me, sending me repeated unsolicited PM's until I was forced to block them, and complaining about me in community projects I'm associated with to try and damage my reputation. All while calling me names, and acting all around indecent and making false allegations like, "he made me buy bitcoin."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23828668

This is a perfect example of an individual who wants to cause problems instead of being a productive member of the community.

https://i.imgur.com/rZfMjd9.png

I've updated my post to provide you (ognasty) with proof that he is the owner of the address, as well as proof of a verified signed message.

So that's that.

Sounds like a fair deal to me.

Thanks man, i appreciate it.  The dude (ognasty) is a clown.
He never had any intentions of removing the neg feedback.
He gets off on it.  He must be compensating for something in real life.

 "I never met an OG that never did nothing wrong"....  eric wright

This dude is a clown and a joke.  I have gone above and beyond what is necessary for this self appointed forum narc.  That address was not used for years, i made a deposit today, and sent it to myself, posted step by step screen shots.   Fuck this clown. 

Put your money where your mouth is bitch, you are so sure i am not eoakland, i  will bet any amount necessary and prove i am eoakland and always have been.   Put up or shut  up you little baby girl

The signature does check out Og. You lost this battle.

And what's with the immature behaviour? "Oh he told a lie about me so he's not trusted", Really? He said that you forced him to buy BTC, which you basically did by saying he has to sign a message from a wallet that he may or may not have been in use for 4years..

EDIT:

In case you'd like proof that he's in control of this address and that he has used it on the forum take a look at this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3792631 - He mentions purchasing shares and includes transaction ID's: https://blockchain.info/tx/6312b0412d1b62aed9b3cce4cdf1e42387be66fb89b189b0b5276d89b80ee34f

So case is closed. It his the actual owner of the account. Now remove the negative. If you think he's been an asshole that's another thing, but not deserving of a negative trust rating.

I'm sure that if you'd remove it, and he'd remove this thread everyone can keep going with their own stuff and you can ignore eachother.

So even after OP proves ownership of the account for 4 years, the negative trust will still stay. This is simply abuse of power, the trust system is clearly broken, too many people running around being judge, jury and executioner, hopefully i dont get negative trust for taking a break from the forum also, when did that become a thing?

@OP copy the signed message and post it in the thread

Did he sufficiently prove to you that he is the original account holder, with the signed message ?

No.  I see a screenshot of a supposed signature that I can barely make out on my mobile.  It also doesn't say anything about the address being controlled by him.  If he wants to paste a signature of a message saying his username controls the address and it is valid, I will remove the part of my trust feedback about his account being purchased.

This ognasty guy is a dick.  I have earned his distrust for what ?   For not letting you bully me ?  You have proved to me and to all, as evidenced by your actions that you cannot be trusted.  This dude needs to get banned.  You are nothing more than a keyboard warrior.  I would gladly tell you that and more to your face.  You barked up the wrong tree you lame.

Doesn't really matter. Us nobodies make no difference to DT.

Hopefully OG wakes up soon and puts this matter to rest by removing the neg.

That isn't going to happen.  His behavior has earned my distrust.  He's following the same pattern that TMAN was just banned for.  Acting inappropriately, then call people names who point it out, create scam threads, bump other frivolous scam threads, attempt to derail my community projects, calling for me to be banned, making up lies - like that I forced him to buy BTC...  If it wasn't clear this account was untrustworthy before, it should be now.  I won't communicate with people that behave like this.

As I consider myself Neutral in this matter I feel like I have to speak up.

OG. What you've done here is undeserved to OP. As your trust ratings holds meaning on this forum I feel it's unjust to pin the negative towards this guy for what you think may be a case of a sold or hacked account.

There are no other instances of you leaving such trust on any account when I browse through your sent feedback. We all know it occur frequently yet in this case (where the guy actually reached out to you) you've decided to basically ruin his account? Why? Are you having a bad day or can you honestly say that this is justified?

To me, this look a bit like abusing your powers. I do not approve and I'm extremely opposed to this.

EDIT: I've given you positive trust for now eokland to slightly cancel out the negative from og. It will be removed once og removes the neg.

Updated with signed message. 
https://m.imgur.com/a/MbQBb

That asshole made me buy bitcoin, find a wallet that i no longer use, sync it, post all the facts..all to verify my identity why ?   Has he been anointed forum detective ?   Is every member having to prove his identity?   Like i stated before, i am not buying or selling anything, i posted my opi ion in an open thread on the forum. 

If that asshole still wont remove the neg or apologize.  His account should be banned.  This aint cool at all.

I will say one thing... He certainly has a voracity for making people... accountable...

Still working on it.  I am over 2 years behind, for the moment this is the best i can do.  Unedited screen shots, screenshots of my wallet wirh addy and google stamped date.   

The crazy thing is i am not selling anything or buying anything. Or asking anyone to send me anything.   I was posting an opinion and this asshole gave me a neg for it.   Is he making every forum member jump through hoops also ?  Lol.  This is crazy

https://imgur.com/a/d2w1y

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-sign-a-message-990345

I will, napping toddler, doing all of this from my phone.  Fyi, i do not know how to sign messages in addresses but i can figure it out.  That address has not been used in years...so it will take a bit to get it going. 

Post link to unedited post with addy, sign message.

*** signed message confirming this is my account***
https://m.imgur.com/a/MbQBb

I am posting this here because i feel OGNasty is abusing his rank to ruin accounts in good standing.  I created my account in late 2013, this account is and always has been mine.  At no point have i sold it or have i been hacked.  

I recently got back into crypto and joined a signature campaign.  I was reading through certain topics on the forum, when i came across a thread that accused ognasty of scamming.  Ognasty was a name i was familiar with from when i first got involved with the forum.  He was credible and provided an escrow service.  Anyhow i posted in that thread to say that og could not possibly have scammed.  

Low and behold, i look at my account 1 hour later and notice my trust went down a ton.  It rurns out OG negged my account.  

I contacted him and told him that i was in fact the original account holder.  He then began to state my account is involved in shady activity.  I dont want to make this to long but, it finally came out he was pissed i posted in that thread, and that it was bumped up, but in fact someone else had just posted there a couple of days prior.  So he negged my account.  I asked him several times to remove his neg, i even deleted my pro-ognasty post in his scam accusation thread so he would remove his neg against me.  

OG is a dick!  He power trips and abuses his rank to ruin accounts in good standing.  He was getting off on me practically begging for him to remove the neg against me.  

I can validate this is my account. On the last page in my posting history,  post 651 or 652 in Dec of 2013 i used my btc addy in a group buy.  I still have access to that address and will post screenshots when i get near a pc.  I am doing this from my mobile phone.  

Here is a quick link to screenshots.  To validate account.  

https://imgur.com/a/d2w1y

I am posting here because i contacted him, and he refused to remove his neg.  He basically chastised me and was a little bitch throughout the exchanged messages.  I have screenshots of all.  He has blocked me, so i am validating my case here.  

And if OG would like to speak to me in person, i would love to do so.  

Fyi, the other person that negged me agreed to remove and instantly asked for a signed message to verify. No gripes with that person...only OG.   Thank you


* the following is a cut and paste of msgs between OGNasty and Myself"*

Me:  to: OgNasty on: Today at 10:48:09 AM »
Og, this is not a purchased account bro.  I have been eoakland since i started.  I am not sure why you just gave me negative trust, but i qould appreciate it if you would remove it.   Thanks

Og:  Thought it was OGNasty, now it's Og?

Me:  Your name is OGNasty....i have known of you since i started cryptos, as you were a credible escrow service.  Bro, i would appreciate it if you would delete the neg feedback.  It is unwarranted.  I commented on your scam thread becuase you were credible, and it just seemed absurd that you were being accused.

And OG is a term used to show respect, you were in crypto before me so i thought it was appropriate.  Not sure what i did to piss you off ?

Og:  Maybe if your account is engaged in shady activity you don't bring attention to it..

Me: Man, what are you talking about...what shady activity ?  I took time off from cryptos after that damn GAW fiasco, i am trying to get back in the swing of things.  I invested in a few ICOs.  What shady activity ?  

Like i said man, i am not sure what i did to piss you off.  If anything i thought i was discrediting that absured accusation about you.  If i offended i do apologize.   But to leave me neg is unwarranted, when in fact this is my own account and your "suspicion" is wrong.  

If you can remove the neg i would appreciate it.  I took pride in my name and my rep.  I never fuct anyone over on  this forum or in crypto.  If you are not going to remove it just let me know and i can stop msgn you.  Thanks

Og:  Here's what I see.  A long post gap with a sudden password change.  Then posts trying to get into a signature campaign.  Then posts shilling scamcoins and bumping the bogus scam thread against me.  Like I said, if your account is engaged in shady activity maybe don't bring attention to it...

Me: Long post gap - gaw related fiasco
Password - i recently changed all my PW

So youre actually pissed i posted in that thread ?  Bro i thought i was helping you out.  I will gladly delete that post.

But for you to just use your OG crytpo status to fuck up my account is messed up.  You are basically making me beg for you to delete that neg trust.  Not cool man.  As a grown man, all you had to do was msg me directly as i msgs you.

Like i said man, i am deleting thay post in your fake scam thread, which is absurd.  Hell i remember you used to sell physcial coins...for you to have an issue with me is ridiculous to me.  I looked up to you in terms of crypto.  If you can delete your neg trust on me i would appreciate it. And i will make sure to steer clear of you in the future.  Lol.  

The fact it is taking up this much of my time and yours is crazy. Lol.  Come on man

Me: That is crazy bro, you fuct up my account reputation...now someone else jumped on your bandwagon and gavr me neg trust for the same bullshit.  

I have had this account for going on 4 years man.  

The same way you felt about that bogus accusation about you is exactly what you just did to me.  Like i said i take pride in my name and where i am from and my reputation.  

I am not scammer or con artist.

Now how the fuck do i clean up my neg rep?

Og:
I think he negged you for this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23777366

Perhaps I did not fuct up your account reputation, maybe you did?

Me:  Now you're just being an asshole.  When donators and signature campaign leaders collude to ruin an account that was in good standing that is crazy.  I will take this issue up with malovent and escrow.ms. and show them my msg thread history as well as validate i am the actual holder of this account.  

I lost any respect i had for you in the crypto space.  You are just someone abusing your rank.

Og: Here I was about to remove it, then you start threatening and saying I abuse my rank.  Time to ignore instead I guess.  Good day with your purchased account.

Me:  
No you were not, you are getting off on this.  I asked nicely i explained myself and my situation when there was really no need.