It makes no sense to tell scammed people that someone specific is likely/possibly/maybe the scammer when you have no evidence, proof or anything to back any of it whatsoever, OgNasty.
What you're doing here shows quite bad judgement and bad manners, in addition to targeted harassing against Owlcatz.
How can anyone trust your word, OgNasty, when you make and spread conclusions/"beliefs"/"hints" based on nothing but your hunch (if even that...)?
Maybe it's not too late to make things right.
Topic: OgNasty is telling scammed newbies on his Escrow thread it was me without proof! - page 2. (Read 1869 times)
July 30, 2018, 06:40:11 PM
July 25, 2018, 10:02:05 PM
He's just a douchenozzle who doesn't have the nuts to even reply.... Cheap-ass sausage boat mofo lol.... . 
Now he claims he created the first platinum collectible btc coin when bitcoinpenny has almost sold out in two days on a pre-order that many days later.
... He has no platinumcoins, keeps contradicting himself....What fucking planet is the guy living on? And why is he so fucking trusted when he just accuses me of scamming his newbies? Who the fuck would even do that? This dude is not mentally stable. Serious psychiatric issues here, it appears he's just fucking scum or delusional as fuck.
CARE TO REPLY, OG??? EVER???!!!
Didn't think so.
Now he claims he created the first platinum collectible btc coin when bitcoinpenny has almost sold out in two days on a pre-order that many days later.
... He has no platinumcoins, keeps contradicting himself....What fucking planet is the guy living on? And why is he so fucking trusted when he just accuses me of scamming his newbies? Who the fuck would even do that? This dude is not mentally stable. Serious psychiatric issues here, it appears he's just fucking scum or delusional as fuck. CARE TO REPLY, OG??? EVER???!!!
Didn't think so.
July 16, 2018, 11:37:00 PM
I can confirm that OgNasty is a blatant bully and trust abuser, just look at his ratings. I specifically have a problem with one of his tags on owlcatz where he calls OgNasty scammer and OgNasty tags him with red for calling him scammer. this is bullying but unfortunately OgNasty has paid Bitcoins to this forum and therefore he will stay on DT. does it actually matter for anybody if he is a bully? I don't think so. I'm starting to realize why suchmoon countered his tag on owlcatz, we need a DT member to counter all of the unjust negative feedbacks of this bully.
EDIT: OgNasty is also handing out positive trust in exchange of money, note that he is giving positive trust to anybody who uses his escrow service aka when he gets paid for acting as escrow, he tags people with green.
EDIT: OgNasty is also handing out positive trust in exchange of money, note that he is giving positive trust to anybody who uses his escrow service aka when he gets paid for acting as escrow, he tags people with green.
July 16, 2018, 08:16:15 PM
This is pretty fucked up.
Indeed. I just want it to stop. I'm not going away on telegram because of this, they all can fuck right off. He should take of the people who have been scammed using his name, that's what most of us here would do, right?
OG - Get your shit in order. Get a clue and start using stuff other than this ancient shitty bulletin board bullshit and actually control your own name FFS.
And stop siccing people on me - I've NEVER used your name - FFS, man...
July 16, 2018, 06:54:03 PM
This is pretty fucked up.
July 16, 2018, 05:50:15 PM
bump
Edit- BTW - OG, still waiting for your answer. Did you send Michael Silver aka Silver815 that PM I posted in the second post or not? Yes or no? Thanks!
[/color]Edit- BTW - OG, still waiting for your answer. Did you send Michael Silver aka Silver815 that PM I posted in the second post or not? Yes or no? Thanks!
Oh... and now we have this one....
Why in the ABSOLUTE FUCK doesn't Ognasty have his own accounts on these sites? He refuses to communicate with anyone regarding his escrow or anything else through a 2009 SMF shit-forum Personal Messages? SERIOUSLY? How is this guy "Trustworthy"? Sure, I may know his name in real life, but wtf??
Why?? Why do you hide behind bitcointalk like a little pussy, Og? So you can blame scams using your name on other people??
Just like Multi-sig is too complicated eh? You fucking dinosaur, get a clue, and stop telling people I'm scamming with YOUR SHITTY NAME!!!! ASSHOLE!!!!
BTW, here is the latest one.... Douchebags...
PS - BUMP!!!!
March 20, 2018, 10:24:38 PM
It is interesting that OG refuses to answer the pertinent questions...
did he pay out only 65BTC for his ponzi passthrough when profiting in the hundreds of BTC every month and indicating he made investors whole?
did he do this? did he tell a newbie that it was either me or Owlcatz who was scamming in his name?
why does QS follow him like a faithful dog?
was he bullied as a child? is that why he never fails to deny any wrong doing in any situation?
did he pay out only 65BTC for his ponzi passthrough when profiting in the hundreds of BTC every month and indicating he made investors whole?
did he do this? did he tell a newbie that it was either me or Owlcatz who was scamming in his name?
why does QS follow him like a faithful dog?
was he bullied as a child? is that why he never fails to deny any wrong doing in any situation?
March 19, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
And everyone questions my motivations?
I'm just trying to understand what happened. I'm saying here that I understand why you assumed OgNasty was accusing you. Therefore I don't understand at all OgNasty's: "seemingly admitted to being the scammer impersonating me on Telegram".Understood, my apologies. Basically, I read in his escrow thread that he provided info on the "telegram scammer" to get police involved.
I don't know where he thinks I admitted anything, he's just using his usual deflections because 1. He knows he is in the wrong 2. His ego is too large to admit it.
I did troll him for a bit, but this is crossing the line
It does seem that initial trolling started this. And a lot of things between you have crossed the line.
I can agree that some arguments/threads against Og have perhaps been taken too far, however I don't see owlcatz being at fault whatsoever in this case.
I agree. Both of them have taken things too far several times. In this particular case I see OgNasty is in the wrong, unless I just don't understand something
I agree. Both of them have taken things too far several times. In this particular case I see OgNasty is in the wrong, unless I just don't understand something
Fair enough, agreed, but again, I never sent scammed newbies from my own threads after him on other services to harass him, without any evidence other than "I dislike him" or whatever. Just like the trust abuse below on Mini.
I said I reported the info I had on the Telegram scammer to Telegram (scammer's user ID, the conversation screenshots, etc.) and for some reason owlcatz then said I threatened to report him to the police, which is either a lie by owlcatz, or it means he is the scammer
No, there's a simpler explanation:- You advised Telegram to file a police report against their user who had scammed
- Michael said you pointed in ow's direction, i.e. you accused him of being the scammer
I'm not saying that necessarily happened, Michael could have lied, he could have misunderstood you, there were several assumptions and some of them could have been wrong.
But that is a much simpler explanation why owlcatz assumed you reported him to the police.
Concluding this means owlcatz admitted to being the scammer doesn't make too much sense.
Actually, he's a liar about me reporting him to the police either way, because that's not what I said...
So you're saying he's wrong at assuming that's what you said?And you assumed he confessed to being the scammer? Have you thought maybe you're wrong at assuming that too?
Edit:
I see you left negative trust to minifrij for making a wrong assumption. Does making wrong assumptions deserve negative trust? I strongly disagree.
I think correcting him is enough, especially when the assumption does make at least a little sense, even if not completely right.
1. You are 100% correct Ecuamobi about your "take" on the above, thank you once again for seeing the truth amidst deflections and twisting words.
I don't want anything out of this, other than maybe a simple apology for sending scammed newbies at me, he knows he wrote that PM to silver815/Micheal, he just won't admit it.
I really would like to see some answers to these myself, especially 1.
- Did you point Michael to owlcatz as he said on this screenshot? Do you have any idea why he said that? Or was he lying? This is very important at it seems to be the base to owlcatz (an partially minifrij -it seems- and me) wrongly assuming you said owlcatz was the telegram scammer
- Do you recognize there's a chance you're wrong at assuming owlcatz seemingly admitted to being the scammer?
- Do you recognize there's a chance minifrij made the wrong assumption in good faith and not to "spread lies"? Does making any wrong assumption deserve negative trust?
March 19, 2018, 12:58:59 PM
I can agree that some arguments/threads against Og have perhaps been taken too far, however I don't see owlcatz being at fault whatsoever in this case.
I agree. Both of them have taken things too far several times. In this particular case I see OgNasty is in the wrong, unless I just don't understand somethingDid you just agree with yourself?
It really seems both OgNasty and owlcatz are just looking for ways to accuse each other for anything at all, regardless of how little sense it makes
I can agree that some arguments/threads against Og have perhaps been taken too far, however I don't see owlcatz being at fault whatsoever in this case.Nope. I turned over the information I was given about the Telegram scammer to Telegram and advised they file a police report. This was the proper action to take, right?
Yes, absolutely.I at no point said owlcatz WAS the telegram scammer or that I turned over any information about him. That is a jump he made for himself after an alleged conversation with some unknown and what I referenced as a Freudian slip of the keyboard.
It seems a lot of people made bad assumptions here, including owlcatz, minifrij, you and me.Talking (writing) clearly solves those wrong assumptions.
Can you clear up this please?
- Did you point Michael to owlcatz as he said on this screenshot? Do you have any idea why he said that? Or was he lying? This is very important at it seems to be the base to owlcatz (an partially minifrij -it seems- and me) wrongly assuming you said owlcatz was the telegram scammer
- Do you recognize there's a chance you're wrong at assuming owlcatz seemingly admitted to being the scammer?
- Do you recognize there's a chance minifrij made the wrong assumption in good faith and not to "spread lies"? Does making any wrong assumption deserve negative trust?
March 19, 2018, 12:45:42 PM
I can agree that some arguments/threads against Og have perhaps been taken too far, however I don't see owlcatz being at fault whatsoever in this case.
I agree. Both of them have taken things too far several times. In this particular case I see OgNasty is in the wrong, unless I just don't understand somethingDid you just agree with yourself?
Therefore you think owlcatz is the scammer and reported him to the police.
Nope. I turned over the information I was given about the Telegram scammer to Telegram and advised they file a police report. This was the proper action to take, right? I at no point said owlcatz WAS the telegram scammer or that I turned over any information about him. That is a jump he made for himself after an alleged conversation with some unknown and what I referenced as a Freudian slip of the keyboard.
I don't know who "Michael" is and I don't know who "Joe" is.
I do know that I have no involvement in this scam whatsoever. That is the end of my involvement.
Ironically, you are doing in this thread to me, what you claim I did to you.
1/16/19 UPDATE: ONCE THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT, THE SCAMMER'S IMPERSONATION ATTEMPTS STOPPED! NOT SURE IF THIS WAS DUE TO TELEGRAM SHUTTING DOWN THE SCAMMER'S ACCOUNT OR THE SCAMMER MOVING ON, BUT IT IS GREAT NEWS!!!
March 19, 2018, 12:44:22 PM
Hiding behind an alt account to write such lies doesn't protect you, sorry.
Damn, you mean that my username (miniFrij) suggests that this is an alt? Perhaps the staked message and trust rating left on this account was a bit of a giveaway too. March 19, 2018, 12:41:46 PM
And everyone questions my motivations?
I'm just trying to understand what happened. I'm saying here that I understand why you assumed OgNasty was accusing you. Therefore I don't understand at all OgNasty's: "seemingly admitted to being the scammer impersonating me on Telegram".I did troll him for a bit, but this is crossing the line
It does seem that initial trolling started this. And a lot of things between you have crossed the line.I can agree that some arguments/threads against Og have perhaps been taken too far, however I don't see owlcatz being at fault whatsoever in this case.
I agree. Both of them have taken things too far several times. In this particular case I see OgNasty is in the wrong, unless I just don't understand somethingI said I reported the info I had on the Telegram scammer to Telegram (scammer's user ID, the conversation screenshots, etc.) and for some reason owlcatz then said I threatened to report him to the police, which is either a lie by owlcatz, or it means he is the scammer
No, there's a simpler explanation:- You advised Telegram to file a police report against their user who had scammed
- Michael said you pointed in ow's direction, i.e. you accused him of being the scammer
I'm not saying that necessarily happened, Michael could have lied, he could have misunderstood you, there were several assumptions and some of them could have been wrong.
But that is a much simpler explanation why owlcatz assumed you reported him to the police.
Concluding this means owlcatz admitted to being the scammer doesn't make too much sense.
Actually, he's a liar about me reporting him to the police either way, because that's not what I said...
So you're saying he's wrong at assuming that's what you said?And you assumed he confessed to being the scammer? Have you thought maybe you're wrong at assuming that too?
Edit:
I see you left negative trust to minifrij for making a wrong assumption. Does making wrong assumptions deserve negative trust? I strongly disagree.
I think correcting him is enough, especially when the assumption does make at least a little sense, even if not completely right.
March 19, 2018, 12:39:25 PM
I at no point said I would contact the police. This is why I'm not going to continue to respond to this nonsense. Nothing but lies. You are boring me.
While you didn't explicitly say you were going to do so, the implication is there and plain to see.I haven't once said any lies about you, I explained how I think owlcatz's thought process went and the evidence I used to get there.
No, I very clearly stated I advised Telegram to file a police report against their user who had scammed. Just like I very carefully never said owlcatz was the user behind the scam, and only listed the coincidences and my beliefs. Hiding behind an alt account to write such lies doesn't protect you, sorry.
March 19, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
I at no point said I would contact the police. This is why I'm not going to continue to respond to this nonsense. Nothing but lies. You are boring me.
While you didn't explicitly say you were going to do so, the implication is there and plain to see.I haven't once said any lies about you, I explained how I think owlcatz's thought process went and the evidence I used to get there. Once again, you are trying to use negative trust to silence anyone that speaks out against you. Funny how Quickseller is suddenly silent about this.
Exactly, thank you... It was the implication Og, sorry for misreading you I guess, but whatever. Final story - You still sicced that scammed newbie on me for no reason. Just admit it, the PM is right above for all to see?
Edit stop with the blatant trust abuse. You are not king or president of anything but your scam club. deal with it.
March 19, 2018, 12:33:54 PM
I at no point said I would contact the police. This is why I'm not going to continue to respond to this nonsense. Nothing but lies. You are boring me.
While you didn't explicitly say you were going to do so, the implication is there and plain to see.I haven't once said any lies about you, I explained how I think owlcatz's thought process went and showed the evidence I used to get there. Once again, you are trying to use negative trust to silence anyone that speaks out against you.
March 19, 2018, 12:29:05 PM
Where exactly did he admit to being the scammer impersonating you on Telegram? I didn't get that
OgNasty said that he would be contacting the police on who he thinks did it. He also said that he thinks owlcatz is the person who he thinks did it. Logically owlcatz then assumed that, because of this, Og would be contacting the police on him.According to Og, this means that owlcatz is guilty.
I would think owlcatz assumed OgNasty would be contacting the police on him because of Michael's "And yes, OGNasty pointed me in your direction".
It really seems both OgNasty and owlcatz are just looking for ways to accuse each other for anything at all, regardless of how little sense it makes
I said I reported the info I had on the Telegram scammer to Telegram (scammer's user ID, the conversation screenshots, etc.) and for some reason owlcatz then said I threatened to report him to the police, which is either a lie by owlcatz, or it means he is the scammer. I advised Telegram to file a police report with the information they had, (ip evidence, username, registration email, Telegram username, etc.). The only way owlcatz could think I was reporting HIM to the police, is if HE was the user on Telegram attempting to scam.
So owlcatz is either a liar about me reporting him to the police, or he is admitting to being the Telegram scammer. Actually, he's a liar about me reporting him to the police either way, because that's not what I said...
Og mentions contacting the police here.
Hey look, someone else decided to join the liar club. I at no point said I would contact the police. This is why I'm not going to continue to respond to this nonsense. Nothing but lies. You are boring me.
March 19, 2018, 12:21:29 PM
I would think owlcatz assumed OgNasty would be contacting the police on him because of Michael's "And yes, OGNasty pointed me in your direction".
Og mentions contacting the police here.It really seems both OgNasty and owlcatz are just looking for ways to accuse each other for anything at all, regardless of how little sense it makes
I can agree that some arguments/threads against Og have perhaps been taken too far, however I don't see owlcatz being at fault whatsoever in this case. March 19, 2018, 12:18:59 PM
Where exactly did he admit to being the scammer impersonating you on Telegram? I didn't get that
OgNasty said that he would be contacting the police on who he thinks did it. He also said that he thinks owlcatz is the person who he thinks did it. Logically owlcatz then assumed that, because of this, Og would be contacting the police on him.According to Og, this means that owlcatz is guilty.
I would think owlcatz assumed OgNasty would be contacting the police on him because of Michael's "And yes, OGNasty pointed me in your direction".
It really seems both OgNasty and owlcatz are just looking for ways to accuse each other for anything at all, regardless of how little sense it makes
Seriously?? This guy has been accusing me of scamming him on Telegram for weeks. He finally tells me who told him that. I get proof. I post it. And everyone questions my motivations? I haven't done anything to this guy, and I don't even talk to him. I did troll him for a bit, but this is crossing the line. Siccing scammed newbies on people you just don't like is WRONG.... Plain and simple.
Anyhow, I'd let it go if the asshole ever actually apologized to ANYBODY for ANYTHING around here, because it seems to me like he is like the forum overlord who thinks he is ALWAYS in the right. NOT in this case, sorry.
BTW, I know all the cops here, so I'm not concerned. Call them, anybody... I don't give any fucks anymore. I just want this lying asshole to leave me alone.
March 19, 2018, 12:13:56 PM
Where exactly did he admit to being the scammer impersonating you on Telegram? I didn't get that
OgNasty said that he would be contacting the police on who he thinks did it. He also said that he thinks owlcatz is the person who he thinks did it. Logically owlcatz then assumed that, because of this, Og would be contacting the police on him.According to Og, this means that owlcatz is guilty.
I would think owlcatz assumed OgNasty would be contacting the police on him because of Michael's "And yes, OGNasty pointed me in your direction".
It really seems both OgNasty and owlcatz are just looking for ways to accuse each other for anything at all, regardless of how little sense it makes
March 19, 2018, 12:08:11 PM
Where exactly did he admit to being the scammer impersonating you on Telegram? I didn't get that
OgNasty said that he would be contacting the police on who he thinks did it. He also said that he thinks owlcatz is the person who he thinks did it. Logically owlcatz then assumed that, because of this, Og would be contacting the police on him.According to Og, this means that owlcatz is guilty.
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