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Topic: OGnasty removing the scam tags from a scammer? if they remove his tags ?? (Read 1305 times)

legendary
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It's nice when you can imagine everyone on your side, isn't it?   Wink

I didn't realize people had to "be on my side" to know you are a nutbar.
Vod
legendary
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I pretty well copy you word for word, so....  Tongue

(Effective way of dealing with trolls)

Monkey see monkey do.

Simple minded troll = simple minded response.  Sorry, Techy.

If you want me to be more witty, you'll need someone else to post.  I can only work with what I get.  :/

I think we all realize you are a simple angry little man with no creative abilities of your own.

It's nice when you can imagine everyone on your side, isn't it?   Wink
legendary
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I pretty well copy you word for word, so....  Tongue

(Effective way of dealing with trolls)

Monkey see monkey do.

Simple minded troll = simple minded response.  Sorry, Techy.

If you want me to be more witty, you'll need someone else to post.  I can only work with what I get.  :/

I think we all realize you are a simple angry little man with no creative abilities of your own.
member
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Merit: 56

Lauda removed my rating, and I then gave Lauda an ultimatum if my forgiveness is to be earned.  Lauda chose to make a promise and I will hold Lauda to that promise.  I believe this was the best way to eliminate questionable actions moving forward.  If I am proven wrong, changes will be made.  I think after so many years, a new approach might be beneficial to everyone.

OGnasty removed his rating towards Lauda so he wouldn't be restricted from future DT1 membership - it has nothing to do with peace or control of Lauda.  It was out of his control.
 Wink
Are you saying theymos was threatening to blacklist OgN from DT1 if he didn’t remove his negative rating?


A direct answer from OGnasty would be useful.

Yes, it would.  Let's see  OG post "I was never threatened with DT blacklist if I didn't withdraw my negative trust from Lauda."


YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG REGARDING THIS BY THEYMOS OWN WORDS concerning his own actions. (of which he can get correct i hope) 

How about you apologize for getting that completely wrong.

I on the other hand make apologies to absolutely nobody for stating anyone not red tagging lauda or removing red tags from lauda should be bitch slapped around for either being a wussy or a complicit scammer supporting piece of shit.

Also vod is a complete liar and trust abuser. He said we deleted his words to silence and misrepresent him. The fucking idiot had made the SAME claims we deleted 2x already and we said he must present evidence to continue to make those claims. He says red trust is therefore required.

That behavior ALONG with his admission he is too scared of lauda and his gang to act as he believes he should act reduces his credibility to zero. Then doxing the boards treasurer....

Need we go on. VOD is done and dusted here. He is probably not a scammer but just a pathetic weak ass dreg that made some bad pals who took him off the rails.

The criticism of OG here stands that he should not have removed laudas red trust knowing full well lauda is a dangerous scumbag to this forum. However, these other allegations vod keeps launching against OG seem to be dubious and motivated by other personal matters.

This removal of laudas red is the ONLY thing we can see that OG has clearly done wrong here. We will not let this thread be a jumping ground to bring other doubtful accusations against him.

Vod
legendary
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It's nice when you can imagine everyone on your side, isn't it?   Wink

I didn't realize people had to "be on my side" to know you are a nutbar.

Now you realize.  Personal growth.  Smiley
Vod
legendary
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I pretty well copy you word for word, so....  Tongue

(Effective way of dealing with trolls)

Monkey see monkey do.

Simple minded troll = simple minded response.  Sorry, Techy.

If you want me to be more witty, you'll need someone else to post.  I can only work with what I get.  :/
Vod
legendary
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Quoting to preserve a record of Techy using the power of the state to fight his petty interpersonal battles.

Pathetic and clueless.  Sad

You have all the wit of a shit slinging chimp Vod.

I pretty well copy you word for word, so....  Tongue

(Effective way of dealing with trolls)
Vod
legendary
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If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.

Remember this deflection?
 
OG was threatened with DT1 blacklist if he did not remove the trust abuse he left for Lauda.  So, he was not actually forced, but he had no choice if wanted to continue scamming.

(I'm just going over old posts for the SEC to document a long pattern of misdirection and dishonesty.)

Quoting to preserve a record of Vod using the power of the state to fight his petty interpersonal battles yet again. I am clueless

Quoting to preserve a record of Techy using the power of the state to fight his petty interpersonal battles.

Pathetic and clueless.  Sad
legendary
Activity: 3318
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First Exclusion Ever
If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.

Remember this deflection?
 
OG was threatened with DT1 blacklist if he did not remove the trust abuse he left for Lauda.  So, he was not actually forced, but he had no choice if wanted to continue scamming.

(I'm just going over old posts for the SEC to document a long pattern of misdirection and dishonesty.)

Quoting to preserve a record of Vod using the power of the state to fight his petty interpersonal battles yet again. I am clueless as to why this community continues to tolerate you when your remorse for your pattern of going too far with your malignant behavior is completely feigned.
Vod
legendary
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If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.

Remember this deflection?
 
OG was threatened with DT1 blacklist if he did not remove the trust abuse he left for Lauda.  So, he was not actually forced, but he had no choice if wanted to continue scamming.

(I'm just going over old posts for the SEC to document a long pattern of misdirection and dishonesty.)
sr. member
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If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.


If he didn't why didn't you also asked to remove false feedbacks from Lauda where no scam happened ?
I mean you removed his negative tag even he has strong allegations and accept his negative tags to people where no proof is being provided and which based on his alligation are peanuts.


Seems a bit unfrair to me that somebody with these big allegations get his negative tag removed where people who tried for example to buy an account (not to scam) keep a destroyed account.
I don't see the balance here.


You claim to spread love.....where is the love for the non DT members?
donator
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If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg

He did not.
sr. member
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If theymos really forced OG to remove Laudas tagg it would just proof my claim that he is the main issue real scams on this board are allowed.

Its funny red tags are getting removed where the evidence is clear and money missing and at the other side accounts get destroyed for trying to buy a single account.
Seems equal to me ?
Removing negative trust for such heavy claims where on the same time people keep their red tagg for nothing.

Thats the justice of trustfeedback we are talking about.


Am very disappointed
member
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You do understand to many it will appear you sold out here and that it will be a constant stain on your reputation. It certainly would appear that you have made a deal with the devil here.
Wow, the amount of hyperbole here is astounding.

Don't know exactly what's transpired here, but I'm still reading.  Still, if feedback is removed by OgNasty, Vod, Lauda, or anyone else involved in this feud I think it's a good thing.  I don't think any of these parties involved has any malicious intent, and I do think hatchets need to be buried by all of them.  The forum and/or the larger community in general won't be affected to the extent that you seem to be thinking it will.  Who exactly is protected by these members having been tagged?  Nobody.  It isn't like Lauda or Vod or OgNasty is constantly scamming anyone....right?  You are exaggerating the situation to enormous proportions, buddy.

Oh really, can you show me anyone else on this forum that is an observable liar, scammer, implicated in extortion and shady escrow dealings, trust abuse and is still 300 GREEN and on DT?

Please stop giving me these opportunities to crush your master in public.

Even VOD wants to red trust lauda but does not have the balls, Now is trying to slap OGnasty after OGnasty had the balls to do it but apparently (according to VOD) was ordered by THEYMOS to remove laudas legitimate scam tags or face blacklisting (even if true Ognasty should have refused). Therefore rendering the entire forum vulnerable to his next scheme or scam other members.

but this latest drama with Lauda has opened my eyes a bit...

Yeah, I've distanced myself with her. What can you do?  You speak out and you get negative trust...

How do I defriend Lauda without getting negative trust from her and ruining five years?

Do you think it’s acceptable that Lauda hasn’t tagged aTriz yet? Do you think there is any reason why everyone shouldn’t tag aTriz for what he did?

Let me answer that this way - how can I leave negative trust for either of them without ruining my account?

As for your account being ruined if you tag one of them, I’m well aware. I guess the difference is that I do what I feel is right regardless of how it may effect me, and you appear to be having your true opinions silenced out of fear. So forgive me if I take your criticisms with a grain of salt.


EDIT - vod no more OG bashing claims without observable instances to demonstrate what you claim is true or credible.
Vod
legendary
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OG, after this thread nobody will believe anything you post again, and by continuing to bullshit I don’t think you realize just how much you’re making yourself look like a moron. I’m happily embarrassed for you. I know children that carry themselves with more intelligence
Vod
legendary
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Lauda removed my rating, and I then gave Lauda an ultimatum if my forgiveness is to be earned.  Lauda chose to make a promise and I will hold Lauda to that promise.  I believe this was the best way to eliminate questionable actions moving forward.  If I am proven wrong, changes will be made.  I think after so many years, a new approach might be beneficial to everyone.

OGnasty removed his rating towards Lauda so he wouldn't be restricted from future DT1 membership - it has nothing to do with peace or control of Lauda.  It was out of his control.
 Wink
Are you saying theymos was threatening to blacklist OgN from DT1 if he didn’t remove his negative rating?


A direct answer from OGnasty would be useful.

Yes, it would.  Let's see  OG post "I was never threatened with DT blacklist if I didn't withdraw my negative trust from Lauda."
legendary
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You do understand to many it will appear you sold out here and that it will be a constant stain on your reputation. It certainly would appear that you have made a deal with the devil here.
Wow, the amount of hyperbole here is astounding.

Don't know exactly what's transpired here, but I'm still reading.  Still, if feedback is removed by OgNasty, Vod, Lauda, or anyone else involved in this feud I think it's a good thing.  I don't think any of these parties involved has any malicious intent, and I do think hatchets need to be buried by all of them.  The forum and/or the larger community in general won't be affected to the extent that you seem to be thinking it will.  Who exactly is protected by these members having been tagged?  Nobody.  It isn't like Lauda or Vod or OgNasty is constantly scamming anyone....right?  You are exaggerating the situation to enormous proportions, buddy.
legendary
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With Lauda, I was in a position where in order to be fair in my ratings, I would also need to leave negative trust ratings for Blazed and minerjones.  I didn't want to do that, (even though they both definitely assisted in a scam with Lauda) because I think it would do more damage to the community than it would help.  Instead, I have Lauda's word that these types of non-transparent public escrows will never happen again.  We'll see how good that word is, but in my opinion if forgiveness is what stops these scams from occurring in the future where negative trust hasn't, then I'm happy to walk the path that keeps people from being scammed.  If that opens me up to more attacks, then so be it.  At this point it's odd when I wake up and don't read outrageous lies about me.  I've come to think of it as the way these damaged misguided individuals show me love, as thought is love's currency.

My question to you mr above all, do you want to see ICO escrow scams and extortions stop here, or do you want to see Lauda punished?  If you want to see ICO escrow scams stop, then give peace a chance.  If you want to see Lauda punished, then go to the police with evidence of what occurred.  Trying to make it seem like I have any motive other than making this community safe is you heading in the wrong direction.  You're fighting people trying to help make this a better place. 

this has to be the NVO ICO (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anncrowdsale-ended-nvo-decentralized-exchange-multiwallet-1917456)
I dont like to see that you did this. I cant unterstand the reason you posted.
member
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Lauda removed my rating, and I then gave Lauda an ultimatum if my forgiveness is to be earned.  Lauda chose to make a promise and I will hold Lauda to that promise.  I believe this was the best way to eliminate questionable actions moving forward.  If I am proven wrong, changes will be made.  I think after so many years, a new approach might be beneficial to everyone.

OGnasty removed his rating towards Lauda so he wouldn't be restricted from future DT1 membership - it has nothing to do with peace or control of Lauda.  It was out of his control.

Unless you want everyone believe that this wave of forgiveness just suddenly was created by you?  OG seems to be the only one receiving punishment and still making it look like he is the good guy.

 Wink
Are you saying theymos was threatening to blacklist OgN from DT1 if he didn’t remove his negative rating?



That would we far more worrying. The warden of the board insisting that legitimate scam tags of dangerous scammers be removed. I very much doubt that would be the case. A direct answer from OGnasty would be useful.

Surely removing an observable scammer from DT would be in the boards best interest rather than insisting we leave the board vulnerable to the scammers actions under the guise of them being VERY 300+ GREEN trustworthy.

This entire bogus argument that we need need to shelter scammers on DT1 UNDER THE GUISE OF  honest members to have peace is madness. Just boot them off DT and blacklist them. How desperate is this board for honest members ?

Did theymos directly ask you to remove a legitimate scam tag from a scammer Ognasty? yes or no?

The argument that rather than leave 3 legitimate scam tags for persons that scammed other members (if that is true) is more risky for the board than making sure none of the 3 scammers has a legitimate scam tag is also bogus. That makes zero sense. The board is surely not so desperate that we NEED scammers in positions of trust?  What sort of community are we trying to create here?  

Scammers = scammers
Honest members = honest members

there is no switching and swapping that around for the " greater good", that is a bogus argument.

What is the truth here?  did some DT members decide to trade red trust removal or did theymos INSIST DT members remove legitimate scam tags rather than rid DT of observable dangerous scammers?

I am guessing it was option 1. Because if it was option 2 that is clearly a LOT more worrying. Why would Theymos go to those lengths to retain an observable dirt bag like Lauda on DT1?  makes zero sense? surely just blacklist that filthy scammer and anyone supporting him in scams and start populating DT with honest members??

Surely OG you can see the folly of this argument for "peace". The entire point of DT is they disrupt PEACE if they see a scammer until there is fair warning the person is a scammer. That is the responsibility of DT1.

This is now the DIS TRUST 1 list is it?  where scammers above the rules get to and do what they want? any action against them is disrupting the peace?

This is why all discussions should be transparent. Regarding scammers and on thread. There should be no back room deals for certain scammers and not others.

The entire community should be consulted on pro's and con's of removing scammers tags, since it effects every member here.

OG you must clearly see that this move will haunt you? your own enemies (not us, we feel you are an honest victim here) will always seek to use this action against you in future. It is a clearly bogus reason to remove scam tags and will be brought up forever by those who will use it to discredit your word and your consistency. It will be double standards to add any tag for anyone if you remove laudas tags. You will be crammed in a corner forever where this will be thrown in your face. The actions are understandable for sure, but sometimes it is better to be cast out of a dirty system than it is accepted into it by dubious actions. Remember, this is being recorded in the history of the early days of bitcoin. Don't capitulate under these circumstances.

We do not wish to cause problems here we simply want a transparent and fair environment where all members are treated equally.

If all scammers get pardoned for saying they will not do it again (even after multiple instances of lying and scamming) then the board will be in a far worse place. Would you not agree? if you agree with that, then you will see that it is unfair to pardon some, and not others. That would seem undeniable. MULTIPLE INSTANCES  keep in mind.

Vod
legendary
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Interesting move og, after all the big talk.. says a lot about what your word is worth.

I also recently learned OGhas been claiming I ask for merits.  His quote from me ""I'll expect to see some merit from you as stated when I launch the new URL and new design sans big banner ad in your face. Smiley"
"
Cherry picked from our long conversations where he claimed he never trusted me.

Here are some messages he sent me prior to that one...

Do you have a thread for that script/service?  I'd leave you merit for it.

I need to look over your trust ratings when I get more time as I think Anduck's rating of you is a bit heavy handed.  I haven't looked into you much, I think because of your ratings for minifrij/Lauda, I just assumed you were evil.   Shocked


It wasn't noticeable to be honest.  Maybe 5-10 seconds?  The length of time isn't what I found off-putting.  What I don't like is the giant banner right in your face.  I'd rather see a forum/Bitcoin logo or something.  I actually think if you got this site up and running on a .com that you could find actual advertisers to pay you for this space.  Pulling a number out of my ass, maybe 0.025-0.05 BTC per month...  I'd recommend removing the banner completely until the time comes to find a real advertiser.

Interesting enough, once I did put it on a .com, OG wanted free (nastymining shares) advertising for his scam.  :/
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