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Topic: OK, i confirmed the model of FPGA they are using in BFL single. (Read 16727 times)

legendary
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Uh,Sarcasm,heard of it much  Huh Grin
RHA
sr. member
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In another thread franky1 has shown he didn't differentiate processor (device) from CPU/GPU (chip), he didn't differentiate boards and chips, he didn't know the FPGA chips are bought and programmed by miner device producers, not designed and made by them.
So, his "nailing" is quite worthless.
legendary
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if they cant even design an FPGA chip and need to import a ready made chip. then their so called research and development costs are not that large.

secondly an ASIC is designed specifically for one task only.

good luck in them trying to design a fresh new concept if they cant even design a FPGA.

 Shocked You nailed em again Grin
legendary
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if they cant even design an FPGA chip and need to import a ready made chip. then their so called research and development costs are not that large.

secondly an ASIC is designed specifically for one task only.

good luck in them trying to design a fresh new concept if they cant even design a FPGA.
hero member
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sorry not my intention...

Sad

i just followed ngzhang posts and got to this thread..


hehe.

to answer your question. It would not do any good to help a competitor. BFL's biggest advantage with using these chips for their singles was/is their ability to source them at a price that would be very difficult for any competitor to find them at.
sr. member
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Free World
sorry not my intention...

Sad

i just followed ngzhang posts and got to this thread..


legendary
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so does this mean the competitor will be able to catch up?

I do hope so.. Cheesy
necro much?
sr. member
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Free World
so does this mean the competitor will be able to catch up?

I do hope so.. Cheesy
newbie
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Spartan 6-150 in CSG 484-2I i buy for 74 € + tax(19%) at my Supplier. It is a price for 84 peaces.
I think in the moment it is the cheapest 150, that you can get.



legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).

Good Luck.

Have you ever seen a BFL product in person?
I'm clearly not a fan of BFL ... but I have one Smiley
legendary
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So your business plan is to issue counterfeit securities and use the proceeds to acquire capital in the form of a product you aren't sure actually exists or not?

http://173.212.223.134/ <--- Look at the row with 18 devices. 18 BFL singles mining away... Drool you bastard!
legendary
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DiabloMiner author

His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).

Good Luck.

Have you ever seen a BFL product in person?

I imagine very few people have. Are they all shills?

So your business plan is to issue counterfeit securities and use the proceeds to acquire capital in the form of a product you aren't sure actually exists or not?

Good luck.

Yawn, this forum is full of trolls, you're not bringing anything unique to the table.
sr. member
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His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).

Good Luck.

Have you ever seen a BFL product in person?

I imagine very few people have. Are they all shills?

So your business plan is to issue counterfeit securities and use the proceeds to acquire capital in the form of a product you aren't sure actually exists or not?

Good luck.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1000
DiabloMiner author

His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).

Good Luck.

Have you ever seen a BFL product in person?

I imagine very few people have. Are they all shills?
sr. member
Activity: 966
Merit: 311

His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).

Good Luck.

Have you ever seen a BFL product in person?
full member
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Merit: 100
I think its very odd that whenever someone makes a negative post about BFL, a bunch of low post count users either attack, or bump the positive BFL posts in the forum.

Even stranger is that these posters typically have a very low ratio of useful posts to complete garbage if you review their history. Most of their posts are promoting the BFL "product" for lack of a better term.

BFL promotional posts types-

1) 'tech support' questions about supposed operational BFL units

2) claims of having received a BFL unit in the mail

3) making a post asking if the BFL is a scam, replying to the negative with another account

etc.

If only we could harness and direct this creativity to a more productive activity, like ngzhang has.

Aren't you a low post person as well? You accused BFL of sending DOA devices based on 1 "broken" device that zhang managed to probe. My god you sound like paid trolls the way you attack the slightest weakness like it's a gaping wound. STFU and contribute. There have been 100+ working units without a peep of failure and you sit there accusing BFL of shipping broken units. I think that would have been a forum topic you stupid coont.

Feel free to keep checking BFL. As someone who has a 5k order out, i appreciate the scrutiny. Instead of doing that job, you're becoming the hannity/beck of the forum. STFU until you have something of value. Jeez, you're driving sane people away.

His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).

BFL shill, low count poster. No doubt BFL is behind this conspiracy.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1000
DiabloMiner author
I think its very odd that whenever someone makes a negative post about BFL, a bunch of low post count users either attack, or bump the positive BFL posts in the forum.

Even stranger is that these posters typically have a very low ratio of useful posts to complete garbage if you review their history. Most of their posts are promoting the BFL "product" for lack of a better term.

BFL promotional posts types-

1) 'tech support' questions about supposed operational BFL units

2) claims of having received a BFL unit in the mail

3) making a post asking if the BFL is a scam, replying to the negative with another account

etc.

If only we could harness and direct this creativity to a more productive activity, like ngzhang has.

Aren't you a low post person as well? You accused BFL of sending DOA devices based on 1 "broken" device that zhang managed to probe. My god you sound like paid trolls the way you attack the slightest weakness like it's a gaping wound. STFU and contribute. There have been 100+ working units without a peep of failure and you sit there accusing BFL of shipping broken units. I think that would have been a forum topic you stupid coont.

Feel free to keep checking BFL. As someone who has a 5k order out, i appreciate the scrutiny. Instead of doing that job, you're becoming the hannity/beck of the forum. STFU until you have something of value. Jeez, you're driving sane people away.

His argument doesn't make sense anyhow. I'm a high count poster, a forum mod, author of DiabloMiner, owner of Diablo Mining Company, one of the first 100 Bitcoin users, and a very big advocate of Bitcoin usage, and I have made only positive posts about BFL. In fact, unless 28nm hardware comes out and its cheaper mh/$ than BFL MiniRigs, I want those to become the backbone of DMC (which, incidentally, would make me the biggest BFL user in the world).
full member
Activity: 202
Merit: 100
I think its very odd that whenever someone makes a negative post about BFL, a bunch of low post count users either attack, or bump the positive BFL posts in the forum.

Even stranger is that these posters typically have a very low ratio of useful posts to complete garbage if you review their history. Most of their posts are promoting the BFL "product" for lack of a better term.

BFL promotional posts types-

1) 'tech support' questions about supposed operational BFL units

2) claims of having received a BFL unit in the mail

3) making a post asking if the BFL is a scam, replying to the negative with another account

etc.

If only we could harness and direct this creativity to a more productive activity, like ngzhang has.

Aren't you a low post person as well? You accused BFL of sending DOA devices based on 1 "broken" device that zhang managed to probe. My god you sound like paid trolls the way you attack the slightest weakness like it's a gaping wound. STFU and contribute. There have been 100+ working units without a peep of failure and you sit there accusing BFL of shipping broken units. I think that would have been a forum topic you stupid coont.

Feel free to keep checking BFL. As someone who has a 5k order out, i appreciate the scrutiny. Instead of doing that job, you're becoming the hannity/beck of the forum. STFU until you have something of value. Jeez, you're driving sane people away.
sr. member
Activity: 966
Merit: 311
I think its very odd that whenever someone makes a negative post about BFL, a bunch of low post count users either attack, or bump the positive BFL posts in the forum.

Even stranger is that these posters typically have a very low ratio of useful posts to complete garbage if you review their history. Most of their posts are promoting the BFL "product" for lack of a better term.

BFL promotional posts types-

1) 'tech support' questions about supposed operational BFL units

2) claims of having received a BFL unit in the mail

3) making a post asking if the BFL is a scam, replying to the negative with another account

etc.

If only we could harness and direct this creativity to a more productive activity, like ngzhang has.
member
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scam is probably not the best definition.  if they are indeed lying about a custom chip, and if they are using previously in service parts, its at the very least misleading and unscrupulous.
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