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Quote from: CinniCoin on August 06, 2015, 03:31:47 AM

Quote from: crypto4jan on August 06, 2015, 12:59:19 AM

Quote from: CinniCoin on August 06, 2015, 12:29:30 AM

Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.

Hi Cinnicoin,

Thank you that you take part of the discussion. It is not my intention to send manually but with a script.
By VPN coin that was also the case that they lookt at you wallet online and with a script a got then extra reward being online.
If we put some randomnes into that it can be very intresting to keep your wallets online.
The STK has to be donated from STK big holders get. So we need a fund for the extra stake and I donate 1500 STK for a start if we create this script for StakeCoin.

But your sugestion for a "partly" fixed number of blockreward is also a nice option. Is that alraidy done for some currency?
It is also more in the filosophy of "StakeCoin" the create a feature like that if think now.
Then you can see staking as a kind of mining and that attract maybe new people for this currency.
With a wallet online 24/7 you have then many change to win extra reward.
I think that it a good first start for future development. We keep the script-lottery in mind and go for your idea!
I can tweet this when it is ready.

No it's not a new feature.
So stakecoin did not invent it or anything.
It has been done by like 100 coins. So it's not a big deal.
But it has the idea that you are wanting, about rewarding those who stake frequently more than people who stake not frequently.

But, hard forks should be avoided so if i was going to add this then it would need to be with other things that need a hard fork too to package them in one.
So an update including this would be months away.

Ok that is clear and good for community to know what they can expect in the future it creates value and trust.
Is it really necessary a hard-fork for this?
It can also have a lotto espect if we want that to include.
A random number of a block get more reward per day.
Is it also posible to monitor the wallet online-time with the API of the Block Exporer and use that for extra rewards?
With a seperate script it is posible but can it be coded into wallet clients?

Some other questions I want to ask you here:
- can you create a StakeCoin... website with some info we want to share?
- Is twitter @StakeCoin from you?

Edit: I realy like if you can add "setstakesplitthreshold" (send you the info by PM)
I have now two weeks 24/7 a 8k STK wallet online and grows rapitly.
I merged some blocks into a new block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/block.dws?258127.htm
I think a block of 1 STK must not be splited after getting a PoS-Stake.

A tip for the community to split out coins over more wallets and use then dumpprivkey and create a dedicated wallet with importprivkey the extra addresses.
For blockexplorer the rich list gives more distribution and you can controll seperate addresses with the seperate wallets.
So not create extra addresses into one wallet but use importprivkey from several wallets.
You get then this:

And the 5 wallet addresses I fill from the start wallet.
Check this block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/block.dws?258122.htm
And this one: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/block.dws?258121.htm

The resuld

My donation wallet is also active but very fragmeted and I know CinniCoin can easy implement setstakesplitthreshold no fork needed for that.
I check how quick this wallet is fragmeted I thik 1 or two weeks.

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Quote from: crypto4jan on August 06, 2015, 12:59:19 AM

Quote from: CinniCoin on August 06, 2015, 12:29:30 AM

Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.

Hi Cinnicoin,

Thank you that you take part of the discussion. It is not my intention to send manually but with a script.
By VPN coin that was also the case that they lookt at you wallet online and with a script a got then extra reward being online.
If we put some randomnes into that it can be very intresting to keep your wallets online.
The STK has to be donated from STK big holders get. So we need a fund for the extra stake and I donate 1500 STK for a start if we create this script for StakeCoin.

But your sugestion for a "partly" fixed number of blockreward is also a nice option. Is that alraidy done for some currency?
It is also more in the filosophy of "StakeCoin" the create a feature like that if think now.
Then you can see staking as a kind of mining and that attract maybe new people for this currency.
With a wallet online 24/7 you have then many change to win extra reward.
I think that it a good first start for future development. We keep the script-lottery in mind and go for your idea!
I can tweet this when it is ready.

No it's not a new feature.
So stakecoin did not invent it or anything.
It has been done by like 100 coins. So it's not a big deal.
But it has the idea that you are wanting, about rewarding those who stake frequently more than people who stake not frequently.

But, hard forks should be avoided so if i was going to add this then it would need to be with other things that need a hard fork too to package them in one.
So an update including this would be months away.

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Quote from: CinniCoin on August 06, 2015, 12:29:30 AM

Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.

Hi Cinnicoin,

Thank you that you take part of the discussion. It is not my intention to send manually but with a script.
By VPN coin that was also the case that they lookt at you wallet online and with a script a got then extra reward being online.
If we put some randomnes into that it can be very intresting to keep your wallets online.
The STK has to be donated from STK big holders get. So we need a fund for the extra stake and I donate 1500 STK for a start if we create this script for StakeCoin.

But your sugestion for a "partly" fixed number of blockreward is also a nice option. Is that alraidy done for some currency?
It is also more in the filosophy of "StakeCoin" the create a feature like that if think now.
Then you can see staking as a kind of mining and that attract maybe new people for this currency.
With a wallet online 24/7 you have then many change to win extra reward.
I think that it a good first start for future development. We keep the script-lottery in mind and go for your idea!
I can tweet this when it is ready.

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Crypto4jan, I don't think it makes sense to manually send coins to people who are staking.

It already gives % interest now. Sure that doesn't reward more for being more active staker(unless you count compound interest),
but in the future I can make the staking reward be a fixed number of coins per block to reward more active stakers.

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I think just have some patience.
Maybe Cinnicoinis is on holidays.
I see now 7 connections: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!network
Keep on staking that is the way to survive.

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Quote from: crypto4jan on August 05, 2015, 04:11:31 PM

Quote from: disco987 on August 05, 2015, 10:16:50 AM

Do not mix the two coins, please ! I've invested a lot of money in cinnicoin! Not in energycoin !
Stakecoin is separate coin. For me this is not an experiment. Thanks.

Yes I understand but I try hard to get more wallets online and it seems no success yet.
CinniCoin has PM me and he has to post here soon or send me PM.
A few days ago more than 10 nodes online and why stopped staking?
I thing I have a great plan and get no support then I know it is time to leave.
It is not an experiment but serious plans I presented to CinniCoin and some here in the topic.

I understand too , but many people here waiting for what he would say cinni dev for development , I think so.

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Quote from: disco987 on August 05, 2015, 10:16:50 AM

Do not mix the two coins, please ! I've invested a lot of money in cinnicoin! Not in energycoin !
Stakecoin is separate coin. For me this is not an experiment. Thanks.

Yes I understand but I try hard to get more wallets online and it seems no success yet.
CinniCoin has PM me and he has to post here soon or send me PM.
A few days ago more than 10 nodes online and why stopped staking?
I thing I have a great plan and get no support then I know it is time to leave.
It is not an experiment but serious plans I presented to CinniCoin and some here in the topic.

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Do not mix the two coins, please ! I've invested a lot of money in cinnicoin! Not in energycoin !
Stakecoin is separate coin. For me this is not an experiment. Thanks.

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This community has 10 days left to get more nodes online!
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/#!network
Only 5 connections and when I go on my holidays then I turn of my PC's.
Maybe the network survive, this is a great developed currency technical but social StakeCoin is more dead then alive.
A VPS node cost about 10 $ per month so that is not much but it is not my call to arrange that.
CinniCoin if you are interested to cooperate with EnergyCoin then give us a sign that you want to work serious on the development.
Holders of STK can exchange some of their STK for ENRG with me if they wish but first I want to see a secure network after my holidays.

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The idea of monitoring nodes online and give some reward is easy to create.
Stakecoin Blockchain Explorer has an API that we can use for that application.
Tagging wallets to users is also not very dificult to implement.
We need a simple website for StakeCoin where you can rigister your wallet address and then rest is simple.
Only the the top25 has to donate a large % of their Stake-reward to the Stake-fund for rewarding in time or just luck to get more people involved without much StakeCoin staking their wallets.
If we have 50 nodes online then we can enter easy an exchange.
For voting we can also give a reward if needed.

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Quote from: disco987 on August 04, 2015, 02:54:46 AM

Quote from: crypto4jan on August 04, 2015, 02:41:28 AM

Quote from: disco987 on August 04, 2015, 02:34:13 AM

Good work man,thanks !

Now wait what Cinni says.
I know he wants to cooperate but his reactions are not very quick sometimes.
If more people like this idea't just post that then it convienced Cinni to make the next steps.

Yes, I like . It is better to have some development.

i like any development better than none, sound like a competition would attract people which is what we need - i'd still like to hear more from cinnicoin on if he is still working on anything for the coin?
i believe cinncoin contacted exchanges to get stakecoin added but didn't get a response - i think we need to work harder on getting more exchanges - i still believe cinnicoin has a chance with the exchanges that still have cinnicoin listed

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Quote from: crypto4jan on August 04, 2015, 02:41:28 AM

Quote from: disco987 on August 04, 2015, 02:34:13 AM

Good work man,thanks !

Now wait what Cinni says.
I know he wants to cooperate but his reactions are not very quick sometimes.
If more people like this idea't just post that then it convienced Cinni to make the next steps.

Yes, I like . It is better to have some development.

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Quote from: disco987 on August 04, 2015, 02:34:13 AM

Good work man,thanks !

Now wait what Cinni says.
I know he wants to cooperate but his reactions are not very quick sometimes.
If more people like this idea't just post that then it convienced Cinni to make the next steps.

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Good work man,thanks !

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Hi I did an analyses how muck STK was online the past 2 weeks since I see mayself as "unofficial" community mannager.
Class 0 is now online the
Class 1 was online the past 3 days
Class 2 was online the past 2 weeks
More than 50% of all the StakeCoin was online the past 3 days so that is very good!
We need more nodes online 24/7 so if you can stake just stake your coins. The wallet takes not much resources from your PC.

#Rich address STK % time-offline class Cum_STK

Code:

77		JPUfbmmN	534.8	0.03	2 hours 37 minutes	0	534.8
23		JcirQ7HL	14004.6	0.66	41 minutes			0	14539.4
49		JJbdhLj8	2548.7	0.12	41 minutes			0	17088.1
19		Jb5xHoiW	23504.9	1.11	42 minutes			0	40593.0
20		Jgi9kQTq	20749.1	0.98	45 minutes			0	61342.1
22		JaaWQn2F	14572.9	0.69	47 minutes			0	75915.0
41		JTGrfB3y	4772.1	0.23	47 minutes			0	80687.1
34		JZuvriHb	8079.5	0.38	58 minutes			0	88766.6
94		JLZSnptM	302.9	0.01	6 hours 5 minutes	0	89069.5
69		JhjqwFJc	717.1	0.03	9 hours 33 minutes	0	89786.6
12		JVUuJCtD	37712.5	1.78	1 day 10 hours		1	127499.1
2		JXVhik3G	86912.9	4.1	1 day 17 hours		1	214412.0
57		JZLFtsYz	1456.4	0.07	1 day 17 hours		1	215868.4
4		JatvTUHC	51093.2	2.41	1 day 19 hours		1	266961.6
36		JgLPYYvw	7748.2	0.37	1 hour 5 minutes	1	274709.8
74		JLdk63HK	585.2	0.03	1 hour 53 minutes	1	275295.0
8		JTjb57wS	41594.1	1.96	10 hours 1 minute	1	316889.1
95		JRuR5kud	242.3	0.01	14 hours 13 minutes	1	317131.4
17		JK4nbAjQ	28986	1.37	16 days 18 hours	1	346117.4
7		JXHcoKGv	43974	2.08	2 days 12 hours		1	390091.4
6		JPHSe88t	44788.4	2.12	2 days 17 hours		1	434879.8
11		JNK4XrW7	38282.1	1.81	2 days 22 hours		1	473161.9
5		JPphonuw	45905.3	2.17	21 hours 9 minutes	1	519067.2
58		JPUcCRpq	1449.1	0.07	23 hours 26 minutes	1	520516.3
13		JP9yN4B4	36534.8	1.73	3 days 10 hours		1	557051.1
14		JbvtDTh2	36312.2	1.71	3 days 16 hours		1	593363.3
10		JVrofDPd	40497.4	1.91	3 days 19 hours		1	633860.7
88		JZZoDPQC	327.1	0.02	11 days 59 minutes	2	634187.8
90		JXM4dZRH	321.6	0.02	11 days 59 minutes	2	634509.4
68		JNtNBNeg	870.4	0.04	13 days 17 hours	2	635379.8
85		JSrD1oQi	376.2	0.02	13 days 19 hours	2	635756.0
15		JKPBvnJN	32210.4	1.52	6 days 1 hour		2	667966.4
24		JciaTMJu	14003.2	0.66	8 days 6 hours		2	681969.6

Offline collection of the rich-list
#Rich address STK % time-offline class Cum_STK

Code:

55		JcwtCVqu	1592.3	0.08	111 days 23 hours	3	683561.9
16		JQwCs7dM	31249.1	1.48	111 days 9 hours	3	714811.0
33		JPzSQ6tc	8196.2	0.39	111 days 9 hours	3	723007.2
46		JQ9fpx5b	3642.1	0.17	114 days 15 hours	3	726649.3
86		JfD9dVy8	344.9	0.02	114 days 20 hours	3	726994.2
62		JRrTo7vz	1345.8	0.06	120 days 9 hours	3	728340.0
79		JPYkQnVg	485		0.02	122 days 20 hours	3	728825.0
48		JZkgfTgY	3300.3	0.16	127 days 17 hours	3	732125.3
61		JT1X2hz8	1426.6	0.07	127 days 8 hours	3	733551.9
47		JVfjSQhK	3397.8	0.16	133 days 9 hours	3	736949.7
44		JJm6CUgq	4084.5	0.19	135 days 23 hours	3	741034.2
64		JYQMhfd4	1174.6	0.06	136 days 5 hours	3	742208.8
42		JSCvP4uM	4537.8	0.21	137 days 10 hours	3	746746.6
38		JbuickC3	6735.7	0.32	137 days 23 hours	3	753482.3
99		JeHCHeUf	166.5	0.01	145 days 5 hours	3	753648.8
51		JayDqQP4	2318.2	0.11	149 days 1 hour		3	755967.0
40		JUD9sYzd	4794.6	0.23	152 days 20 hours	3	760761.6
60		Jaq6J7nN	1433.8	0.07	153 days 9 hours	3	762195.4
65		JL3HLgkU	1100.2	0.05	156 days 1 hour		3	763295.6
32		JUnC77Sw	8820		0.42	158 days 22 hours	3	772115.6
93		JUSKf6qT	314.3	0.01	158 days 7 hours	3	772429.9
25		JXmV1x6q	11642.3	0.55	173 days 20 hours	3	784072.2
59	JhJrss5H	1445.3	0.07	179 days 2 hours	3	785517.5
9	JRAVWWN 41337.8	1.95	180 days 14 hours	3	826855.3
78	JUNAhCBR	526.7	0.02	185 days 10 hours	3	827382.0
43	JW4RqHEa	4221.5	0.2	186 days 23 hours	3	831603.5
18	JMMc2kJQ	25584.2	1.21	187 days 17 hours	3	857187.7
50	JhK3Rmc2	2432		0.11	188 days 22 hours	3	859619.7
80	JWhx8MM 466.8		0.02	188 days 26 minutes	3	860086.5
31	JX9Q2y5K	9233.6	0.44	189 days 8 hours	3	869320.1
81	JYoUtDPy	456.5	0.02	190 days 11 hours	3	869776.6
84	JUgTAs58	384		0.02	195 days 15 hours	3	870160.6
100	JdHUH435	161.9	0.01	195 days 15 hours	3	870322.5
30	JRWEhrw2	9430.5	0.45	195 days 21 hours	3	879753.0
96	Jh4hVpp6	184.7	0.01	198 days 18 hours	3	879937.7
72	JdF5S3Ta	634.6	0.03	198 days 21 minutes	3	880572.3
37	JgP2wb3V	7318.7	0.35	198 days 22 hours	3	887891.0
97	JWqWbVax183.4	0.01	200 days 10 hours	3	888074.4
39	Jcod2hpU	5616.3	0.27	200 days 19 hours	3	893690.7
45	JXm4HAL6	3964.8	0.19	200 days 5 hours	3	897655.5
87	JSRDeBvn	334.2	0.02	202 days 1 hour		3	897989.7
29	JQ7qjcxF	10365.3	0.49	202 days 16 hours	3	908355.0
75	JZNNSrmb	566.6	0.03	202 days 16 hours	3	908921.6
21	Jc5pBjWP	16526.1	0.78	56 days 16 hours	3	925447.7
63	JMvhvjTu	1301.1	0.06	56 days 16 hours	3	926748.8
89	Je1AJkTb	322.5	0.02	60 days 22 hours	3	927071.3
71	JKCDjFrV	635.9	0.03	61 days 3 hours		3	927707.2
82	JLyWN5Ud	431.8	0.02	61 days 3 hours		3	928139.0
73	JMxXFcKs	601.1	0.03	62 days 10 hours	3	928740.1
83	JM8ypoc9	413.2	0.02	62 days 12 hours	3	929153.3
70	JLJCFu14	668.3	0.03	62 days 14 hours	3	929821.6
56	JesdHxHN	1463.4	0.07	74 days 13 hours	3	931285.0
66	Jbw4E1Mm	947.3	0.04	74 days 13 hours	3	932232.3
67	Jaj8cr6W	917.8	0.04	74 days 13 hours	3	933150.1
91	Jh25HEat	315.9	0.01	74 days 13 hours	3	933466.0
98	Jd6JziMX	175.8	0.01	74 days 13 hours	3	933641.8
53	JdLzz6jF	1763.8	0.08	75 days 2 hours		3	935405.6
35	JgJELRzV	8006.6	0.38	80 days 16 hours	3	943412.2
92	JWgZZpvh	315.6	0.01	81 days 3 hours		3	943727.8
3	JZ5cfksu	78900.8	3.73	83 days 10 hours	3	1022628.6
28	JSiNEeY1	10931.9	0.52	83 days 10 hours	3	1033560.5
52	JQLVdG3o	1841.4	0.09	86 days 6 hours		3	1035401.9
27	JKszeZR8	11012.2	0.52	88 days 2 hours		3	1046414.1
54	JRuy3kkU	1662.8	0.08	88 days 6 hours		3	1048076.9
76	Jdg7a27B	553		0.03	92 days 14 hours	3	1048629.9
26	JbdzyZoN	11610.6	0.55	98 days 51 minutes	3	1060240.5

My developer can create a tool that monitors a wallet 24/7 online and the idea is to reward that wallets with extra stake.
The coins have to come from the top of the rich list and go to "poor" STK-holders by lotery of hours online.
It is a extra reward if you are a trusted node and in the Block Explorer we can tag your username and see on a webpage how much you extra earned.
See it as a game but we need a % the PoS reward from the top100 as donation.
I contribute the coins donated to me but we need 10 times more than that and have to create a protocol for this.

Let us discuss if this is a idea we can work on.
It can attract more people to go into StakeCoin and I combine this with some other plans I have with EnergyCoin.
The StakeCoin cooperation with EnergyCoin can create extra value for both currencies imo.

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Quote from: gr8n8 on August 03, 2015, 07:16:25 AM

to the other top holders please send some STK to cryto4jan for encouragement and support
you can pm him to get his address

Thank you for your donation.
I sended CinniCoin today a proposol for some project he can develop for StakeCoin.
Yesterday CinniCoin sended me some donation, thanks for that, I was not aware this donation came from him (#2) on the richlist.
My developer of EnergyCoin created a lightweight wallet for Raspberry-PI and I discussed with him the plans for cooperation with StakeCoin and maybe some other PoS-coins.
His sugestion was to make a image for Raspberry-PI with StakeCoin and EnergyCoin wallet instaled.
If StakeCoin community think this is good plan then we can work that out.
The Raspberry-PI is good for the network and I want to buy then some extra StakeCoin for EnergyCoin if you let them stake on your Raspberry-PI.
More development is posible after that.

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Quote from: komdo on August 02, 2015, 03:05:42 AM

this coin not ded. theres a sign of life. I start staking my wallet.

Great the more supporters the more chance we can create value for StakeCoin.
The wallet software is very good developt and we have now also a MacOSX wallet and CinniCoin is working on plans for future development together with me.

Edit 12 connections:

Code:


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"addr" : "149.202.137.169:56358",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438540183,
"lastrecv" : 1438540213,
"bytessent" : 555834,
"bytesrecv" : 441927,
"conntime" : 1438488967,
"pingtime" : 0.10938000,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 252544,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : true
},
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"addr" : "137.224.252.10:61906",
"addrlocal" : "213.46.197.237:16814",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1438540213,
"lastrecv" : 1438540213,
"bytessent" : 565408,
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"conntime" : 1438488967,
"pingtime" : 0.01562600,
"version" : 60015,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0/",
"inbound" : true,
"startingheight" : 252545,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : false
},
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komdo

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Activity: 98

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this coin not ded. theres a sign of life. I start staking my wallet.

kawa900jc

hero member

Activity: 722

Merit: 500

StakeChain Community leader

Quote from: disco987 on August 01, 2015, 02:33:30 AM

If nobody wants to help and donate, let stakecoin die , swallow losses and move forward. Cool

For example number 3 from rich list? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/stk/address.dws?4281.htm
I guess that reads this thread.

It is #2 now with 20k of STK POS reward the past days.
Is there also a not 64bit windows wallet available?
I can't run stakecoin on my 32 W7 PC.

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