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While I think it's really ridiculous how people could fall for such obvious scams, come on dude. They already got scammed. That itself should be enough damage to them to teach them a lesson. Laughing at them and ridiculing them? That's totally totally unnecessary. Why not try to educate them instead?

P.S. Work a bit on your writing. That's a huge block of text.
Probably he is a grown up with an attitude of a kid. This is not a time for fun of someone getting scam. It is not easy for them to accept losses.

It may be an old trick but the books that has this scammers had been using but I agree to mk4 that these individuals getting scam had already learn their lesson. Besides, there are many reason of one to gamble into scam investment. Know that not all of scam investment can make one losses but there are few who made more gains this is why some were trying to gamble just to get the chance in gaining higher profits in the investment scam especially if it is a networking investment scam.
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When there is a sentence of "send 1000$, and I will double it", people must stay away from that because that is not true and that will get your money without giving it back to you. But as always, many people will feel greed to see the amount, and it seems, the word "I will double it" attract them to send the money to the scammers. That is an old scam that still works today, and many people still have the interest to try it, whether it's in the online world or the offline world. Please don't send anything. Otherwise, you will get a scam from them.
They don't directly said that "I will double it" neither they use to specify the amount. They ask people to send any amount and they will return them double of that as a giveaway to their fan. They used to specify time limit as well so that the people who is going to fall in their trap does have less time to verify that the offer is legit or not. An example

The image says "All bitcoin sent to our address below will be sent back to you doubled". That will attract people, especially new people, because they want to earn bitcoin in a short time. As soon as people send their bitcoin to them, the limit time will be over, and the scammers will not send it back to them.
And who would believe on such thing like that? can't even pick a penny in the sidewalk of new york, now they want double of how much they sent, embarrassing. This scam has been for ages, yet there are still people who'd fall for this one, isn't it that the problem is with awareness? coz people becoming more of opportunity grab lately they did not really know what it's like to be on this industry.
Most people who got scammed are the newcomers. If you're an oldies in this industry and got scammed by that schemed then you're greedy and noob.
The scheme sounds suspicious even if it is from the famous people. They should have done some research before putting their money into something like this.
That is because new people don't have much knowledge about crypto, and they can easy to get scam. If they can hold for a while and search for more news, I think they can be able to prevent the scammers because they know what the truth is. Maybe there is a little information about how the scammers will take their money so they can easily to get a scam.
Awareness is all we need, we can get it through reading not just technically. Wake up it's 2020, the next time you'll see a post in a twitter that looks like that give it some report to the twitter, none of that is legit!
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That the victims of scams due to Twitter famous peoples are being hacked that are currently viral, the people who are victims are too
greedy and don't think before they act. Though this only cheating with the old method. The victims should be small number, because of
the scams method used is an old trick. This scams method should have many people who know, but still many are become victims.
Because many people want rich quickly, this is the reason why many victims are deceived.





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Relying on scams to gain money is really dangerous since they might track the money if you are using personal accounts since it will involve banks or electronic wallets with their names on it.

Still, that scam can already be determined by studying on the things that will happen since doubling money in an instant is somewhat sketchy. You can double your money in gambling but that is another risk. We just need to avoid scams by studying or thinking about how will you gain profit if you invest or follow what that person is talking about.
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I also think the same thing as the OP, where we can't blame everything on the fraudsters because it can't return your money. Self-introspection then try to get back up and just consider this an experience for you to be more vigilant because fraud can occur under any conditions. However, this condition has already occurred and anger will not solve the problem. although I am very surprised at the nominal bitcoin that fraudsters can produce.
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You know, both of you have a point,

What he was about to point out is that, there are actually newbies that don't know anything about these things or what they should do to start. While your point is, they should gather the information that was spread by those people who had the experience before in such a scam.

He just worried about those newbie people that can't take action on their own since they don't know what to do. It is not about tolerating them but giving them a guide to avoiding them from getting scam.
Why treat them like they were born yesterday, these newbies should be able to think for themselves. Why treat them like mindless zombies, if they are new to bitcoin that does not that their minds was on reset. It is just a wonder to me how these fools fall for it. By the way, isn't being a newbie the time where you should be the most cautious?
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You know, both of you have a point,

What he was about to point out is that, there are actually newbies that don't know anything about these things or what they should do to start. While your point is, they should gather the information that was spread by those people who had the experience before in such a scam.

He just worried about those newbie people that can't take action on their own since they don't know what to do. It is not about tolerating them but giving them a guide to avoiding them from getting scam.
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This happens a lot of times with many people. We should send advice without mocking the victims. I understand your situation. It's a painful thing, but it's best not to fall into such greed. My advice would be to invest in a good place if you have money and earn money by working hard.
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The number of people being deceived in this way is not low yet. If you keep your eyes and ears open, you will find many people who are constantly being deceived in this way. The only reason behind this is that people who have a lot of greed are falling into the trap of this deception. Those who are joining the new online market are also falling victim to it. They do not understand there is no way to double money in such a short time?
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You may be right about the scam method used being a old one but remember there are lot of people that doesn't know about some things.
You're very harsh and this thread is very unnecessary at this moment because it looks like you're in support of the damage done to the victims.
Not all of them is going to learn their lessons anyway but we should watch out for anyone we know with a ponzi mindset.
Why tolerate the fact that they are not going to learn their lesson? Are you trying to ignore these victims by letting it slide and that you are not a victim? When will these scams get your attention? When you are affected or someone you know is?

It's funny how you make an excuse because it is rather convenient for you because you are not affected.

By the way, this thread is a necessary discussion, you just felt attacked that you want this to close, I try to understand other people's perspective in the matter, most disagree but that is a good thing because I am putting up an issue too taboo for many. Also, these so called people who got scammed were knowledgeable about bitcoin, these are functioning adults and the fact that they fall for a scam that is brimming with red flags is very frustrating. My words might be harsh which is okay because sometimes people should be reminded that they are wounded by rubbing salt in their wounds.
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In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it.

You may be right about the scam method used being a old one but remember there are lot of people that doesn't know about some things.
You're very harsh and this thread is very unnecessary at this moment because it looks like you're in support of the damage done to the victims.
Not all of them is going to learn their lessons anyway but we should watch out for anyone we know with a ponzi mindset.
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In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them.

The victim are not to be blame at all. Common, the source of the Scam is so legit that most people holding BTC would fall for. In my opinion, Twitter should be held responsible for the Scam if the tweeters can prove their innocent in not tweeting that scam money doubling tweets.
Why Verify an account if you can't keep to strong security on it?
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Well, perhaps we can consider that it was the oldest scam strategy but the scenario was not. Why? --Because the scammer used the Twitter accounts of most famous people that they think they were legit of their claiming of bitcoin doubling since the hack twitter account from a particular famous user was already gained trust from the community. Who knows that their accounts were compromised at that time. Indeed, just because they are greedy but I think we can blame Twitter too for this incident, they had weak security level and now how can we trust them.
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I wouldn't say Bitcoin doubler scams are the oldest scam in the book, I mean Bitcoin has only existed for a decade, and before that doubler scams were practically non-existent.

Sure there have been HYIPs for centuries, but this wasn't that. Even Bitconnect is relatively new in the grand scheme of things.

Either way, your thread is effectively telling people to scam others, not a good idea with that title.
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Are you for real? Dude, letting it slide will never make a difference. You tolerate their naivete and that makes them still the same, learning their lesson in this day is not enough, we have to hammer it in their skulls because people does not care anymore when someone educates them in the traditional way, speaking about the dangers of scams and the different types of scam will not make it, let them wallow in their mistakes and be reminded of their naivete.
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When there is a sentence of "send 1000$, and I will double it", people must stay away from that because that is not true and that will get your money without giving it back to you. But as always, many people will feel greed to see the amount, and it seems, the word "I will double it" attract them to send the money to the scammers. That is an old scam that still works today, and many people still have the interest to try it, whether it's in the online world or the offline world. Please don't send anything. Otherwise, you will get a scam from them.
They don't directly said that "I will double it" neither they use to specify the amount. They ask people to send any amount and they will return them double of that as a giveaway to their fan. They used to specify time limit as well so that the people who is going to fall in their trap does have less time to verify that the offer is legit or not. An example

The image says "All bitcoin sent to our address below will be sent back to you doubled". That will attract people, especially new people, because they want to earn bitcoin in a short time. As soon as people send their bitcoin to them, the limit time will be over, and the scammers will not send it back to them.

Most people who got scammed are the newcomers. If you're an oldies in this industry and got scammed by that schemed then you're greedy and noob.
The scheme sounds suspicious even if it is from the famous people. They should have done some research before putting their money into something like this.

That is because new people don't have much knowledge about crypto, and they can easy to get scam. If they can hold for a while and search for more news, I think they can be able to prevent the scammers because they know what the truth is. Maybe there is a little information about how the scammers will take their money so they can easily to get a scam.
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They have their faults for easily believing in what they saw on the internet, and they are also responsible for it but instead of blaming and laughing at them, why not teach them and give awareness to those who don't have an idea about these scams.

We also make mistakes with our choices but it does not mean that we are not deserving of sympathy and help from others. They can learn from this experience not to trust and believe in everything they see online. If they get scammed again, it's because of greed so they should be responsible. But let's not judge these victims for believing and falling in this old trick scam because we don't have the same level of knowledge and awareness in everything.
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I am not a hypocrite, if I ever get myself become a victim of any of these scams then I will gladly accept getting my ass handed to me, I know that the words I used were harsh but in this day and age, we tolerate naivete because we are not the one affected, we see this daily but let it slide because we see it as not our problem, if my words hurt these naive fools that have fallen for these scams then so be it but I also hope that itt will resonate a lesson. Again, I do not excuse myself as someone righteous, I have tolerated it too but not anymore.

That's their money and their loss anyway, you shouldn't get easily carried away by the situation and control your choices of words.
These money doubler scam technique maybe old, but maybe Bitcoin sounds new to them. Some might have heard about it before which I'm pretty sure they heard about the usual get rich quick narrative about cryptocurrency. So, then these high profiled accounts in Twitter tweet's about doubling their money.
Not everyone has the capability of perceiving and are sensitive about suspicious activities going on in the social media or even in the real world.
Let them learn their lesson from what have happened, calling them fools doesn't make any difference, instead it'll add up to the burden of lossing a money.
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Most people who got scammed are the newcomers. If you're an oldies in this industry and got scammed by that schemed then you're greedy and noob.
The scheme sounds suspicious even if it is from the famous people. They should have done some research before putting their money into something like this.
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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for it. Yes the hacks should be condemned and the hackers should be apprehended because they are scamming innocent people, before we all burn these hackers in stakes we also should address the fact that these so called innocents are still falling to these thing. In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?

Edit: Typo

I would like to say that no matter what it wasn't justifiable in any way , these people might be gullible , might be going through a tough time, might have lost their jobs , might have wanted to get rich fast who know ? At the end of the day it's wrong to actually take any step that would cause unnecessary harm to someone.
Plus I do think Only people who don't have much money did fall the victims since people who are rich and accomplished they don't need to start something like this . This scam was already going on for quite some time. When Elon Musk did post people should have found out about it sooner , I do think next time something like that happens we have to actually share it with more people so that they can understand that it's not a true statement and such , I really feel sorry for the people who did got scammed but :

1. Let's share more about this so that we can spread the information, to educate others about the ways scammers can use you

2. Remember that it wasn't the fault of Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies ! It was the fault of Twitter ! They should have spent all that money on being extra secure

3. I sincerely hope that government and Twitter hires cryptocurrencies specialists and track the person down somehow if possible.

4. I do think that Twitter should pay some amount to these people if they can .

Let us remember that There is nothing of the sort by the name *Easy money*

{ This scam reminds me of a movie I watched as a kid , same plot ! Just added cryptocurrencies in , maybe they were inspired by that movie }
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