Topic: Oligarchy - The Book (Read 2023 times)

Did I say anything about running? No.

Problem with Occupy being, of course:

*  No Program
*  No Leadership
*  No political strategy

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LOL, we sure do.  Everyone's just a future billionaire.

That's one answer to it, yes.

But if that's an answer then this is also an answer:  "adfglilivwelkcvuibmeqilcviowerasdfdfzcv".  The reason that that is an answer is because both are worth about the same in regard to actual reality.

What if the 'ring' is the world and there is no place to run and avoid this confrontation?  What if the only way to beat a bully is to stand your ground and let it be made clear that you are to be respected?

This is really, quite well I may add, touching on the nature of the present Libertarians who are doing everything they can to alienate themselves.  Their ego-ideal is to live 'off-the-grid' on a totally self-enclosed little bubble.  This is like admitting defeat in my book, as it simply writes off civilization as a lost cause in the futile, naive and child-like belief that you can simply live in your tree-fort for the rest of all time.

Well, yes, that's my "anti-boxing league," specifically, the Shire Society.

People also say that in Australia but they forget we are still a monarchy. Just before the Queen visited Victoria last year they crushed the Occupy Melbourne protest so she wouldnt see the tents in city square.

You see this and realise as soon as you try and fight back the ruling class will trample you with horses. We need another way.


 It seems cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.

It's funny.  One of my fav British actors was discussing a trip to LA for talks in a US remake of the show he was staring in.

He mentioned to the Studio exec's/writers that one of the qualities that made the British show so popular was the depiction of characters in well defined class stations.  That the characters were real and relate-able.

The Studio people said in response, "That wont work in America.  We have a classless society."


It's amazing how people's perception can be so disconnected from reality.

http://freestateproject.org/ is one answer to it.

Well, then it would be in my best interest to gather with a large enough group of people who also do not want to box that we can prevent being forced into a match.

I think we're straining the limits of this analogy.

What if you aren't in a ring and the other person (or group) is instigating it against your will, and every corner of the earth is dominated by such oppressors that have to get their nose bloodied before they learn not to try and bully you?

Yeah, it's kinda crude. But it works. To continue it, I could get in the boxing ring, and duke it out with that guy, but he's bigger, he's had more practice, and he's got a longer reach than I do. So, rather than get in the ring and hope to put in a few good punches before I go down, I avoid the ring entirely, and laugh as he swings his fists at open air.

Point of the info-graphic, being, of course, that while the oligarchy uses the abstraction or organization of "The State" or "Government" or "The Guy or Class of People That Have Convinced Everyone Else That They Should Be Able To Do Whatever They Want" depending on the historical time-line is just the cover for the endless wealth accumulation, greed and avarice of eternal lust for more power and more wealth by that class of people.  It is this Greed that they serve and ITS nature that needs to be understood, not so much the mannerisms, formalities and customs of the existing methods by which said objectives are accomplished.  This is the difference from (brace for impact of analogy) seeing the boxing glove hitting you in the face and trying to understand ITS purpose over the purpose of the boxer who is delivering it into your jaw - where the intention driving the system is actually exposed.

In addition, the Libertarian doctrines ignore the development and creation of the modern State, which was (despite its obvious failings) a huge leap-forward in regards to individual rights and freedom.  The "Oligarchy" book is covering this fairly well, and another reason I recommend it so highly (presently on page 120 of this book, unfortunately my life is getting in the way of reading this as fast as I'd like).

Once this is learned, then you realize (pursuant to this analogy) that the boxer beating you in the face has no monopoly on being able to use 'the glove', and you prepare to 'suit up' yourself to punch them back and see how they like it.

Crudest analogy evar.

Rest assured, I'm not going to rise to his troll-bait. If he has something productive to say, I'll respond, but crap like that gets an eye-roll and a click on the "hide" link.

As to this:


Yeah, that was pretty funny. Rest assured, though, I see the dude behind the curtain. Just because I tell the people, "Hey, that Wizard is an ass-hole" doesn't mean that I don't also tell the people who agree that yeah, the wizard is an asshole that he's just a dude behind the curtain. But if I start shouting on the rooftops that the wizard is just a dude behind a curtain, I'll get laughed at.

Let's try to keep this thread on topic, that being this book and the ideas that are contained within it.

Please?

 

It needn't be that way. If myrkul advocates going to the library after all, he can jolly well head on down to one himself and pick up a few books on various subjects.

Oh jeeeze.  Here we go again.

 

That's interesting advice, coming from you. I recall recommending a few books to you, and suggested the library as a source to enable you to read the books. I didn't appreciate your answer, quoted within the dialog below:

Here is some pictures to explain the, perhaps, subtle differences in our views of 'what is, presently, in power?' and 'what is at the heart of the evils of our present day system?'


You see this:
The State



I see this:
The Oligarchy



You see this:
The State


I see this:
The Oligarchy


You see this:
The State


I see this:
The Oligarchy



Hope that was as fun for you as it was for me.
 

Do you have any bitcoins?