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Topic: On the theory of only one god (Read 1499 times)
as a christian i do believe in just one god , the god that created heaven and earth , who created adam and eve , and i dont believe in many gods , people a long ago praises their gods whom they calls it ,, ther gods is like tree , animal statue or something , but in my existence in life i only believe in jesus christ as one god
God created everything in pairs, male and female, because He personally represents harmonized masculinity and femininity, which harmoniously exist in himself.
It was said that God created everything on his image, male and female, in pairs.
When you read the Bible you see that God sometimes shows his feminine characteristics, like gentleness and love, and sometimes male nature, anger,...
It was said that God created everything on his image, male and female, in pairs.
When you read the Bible you see that God sometimes shows his feminine characteristics, like gentleness and love, and sometimes male nature, anger,...
The kaballah explain this very well with the tree of life.
It start as one root, then divide and Enlightenment is reached as reunion of opposites.
There is also this myth in plato androgyne.
http://www.philolog.fr/le-mythe-de-landrogyne-texte-de-platon/
But actually feminine aspect is more coldness severity and judgment reflective, and masculine hot mercyfull loving and active
Monotheism is quite rare, often times, gods at least have some partners that are more or less as powerful as them. It seems that unlike the Persian Ahura Mazda, the Hebrew god used to be part of a pantheon where it is not the chief being. Over time due to political reasons, the religion shifted from polytheism to monotheism.
In which case he could have simply made Satan disappear since Satan is after all, also just a copy.
The fact is that the one who personifies evil, Whose name you named, is the Fallen Angel. The fact is that if you view the entire history of the emergence of good and evil, it turns out Everything is clear. And it is not unnecessary to deny one when you believe in another.If he can create "copies" they will never have his power.
In which case he could have simply made Satan disappear since Satan is after all, also just a copy.
Sigh. I'm not wondering whether Satan is real or not, what I'm wondering is why is he allowed to remain if he was nothing compared to the omnipotent god. You probably heard of The Problem of Evil before.
Satan is subordinated to god.
You want to say that God is a hermaphrodite? Then I know the divine aquarium fish. They can change their gender depending on what gender do not have enough of their population. The function of reproduction they work in full.
I'm just trying to think about this logically
According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)
Everyone needs companionship, even gods...
Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)
The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style
According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)
Everyone needs companionship, even gods...
Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)
The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style
God created everything in pairs, male and female, because He personally represents harmonized masculinity and femininity, which harmoniously exist in himself.
It was said that God created everything on his image, male and female, in pairs.
When you read the Bible you see that God sometimes shows his feminine characteristics, like gentleness and love, and sometimes male nature, anger,...
Monotheism is quite rare, often times, gods at least have some partners that are more or less as powerful as them. It seems that unlike the Persian Ahura Mazda, the Hebrew god used to be part of a pantheon where it is not the chief being. Over time due to political reasons, the religion shifted from polytheism to monotheism.
In which case he could have simply made Satan disappear since Satan is after all, also just a copy.
The fact is that the one who personifies evil, Whose name you named, is the Fallen Angel. The fact is that if you view the entire history of the emergence of good and evil, it turns out Everything is clear. And it is not unnecessary to deny one when you believe in another.If he can create "copies" they will never have his power.
In which case he could have simply made Satan disappear since Satan is after all, also just a copy.
Sigh. I'm not wondering whether Satan is real or not, what I'm wondering is why is he allowed to remain if he was nothing compared to the omnipotent god. You probably heard of The Problem of Evil before.
There can be many gods but we only have one, true God. If I will worship a god who can do everything except one, then what is the sense of worshiping him if I will meet another god who can do that one thing the former cannot do? Then, there is only one God, and He is all powerful, and allknowing, and possesses all good characteristics.
What's the problem with worshiping all of existence? There can be many gods but we only have one, true God. If I will worship a god who can do everything except one, then what is the sense of worshiping him if I will meet another god who can do that one thing the former cannot do? Then, there is only one God, and He is all powerful, and allknowing, and possesses all good characteristics.
How do you know there is only 1 god?
What *evidence* do you have to support the hypothesis that only 1 god exists?
How can you *prove* that there are not 10 gods?
It's said this story inspired the formalisation of Judaism deuteronomy, as the law to make everyone agree because it incorporate all other laws.
Guessed survival of the fittest even works for deities. For the most part, they were local and their influence expands as their followers' did. Christianity was looked upon as nothing but a small Jewish cult.
With plato, stoics etc it became more a philosophic concept, like the tawhid in Islam ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawhid), with the jew at the begining it's still intermediate between tribalism/traditionalism and mosaic law, but Judaism has also influenced platonism, which influenced Christianism.
But before Judaism it was clearly Darwinism, like highlander with the stronger god killing the lesser gods and absorbing it's characterstics, often as different names to refer to different aspect of the God, with strong political interest behind, as a god = a King = a law.
It's even what got jesus in trouble to be seen as "king of jew" it created a bug in their system with the principle of abstract god that doesnt correspond to a King and a law with the kingdom in heaven etc they were like
There can be many gods but we only have one, true God. If I will worship a god who can do everything except one, then what is the sense of worshiping him if I will meet another god who can do that one thing the former cannot do? Then, there is only one God, and He is all powerful, and allknowing, and possesses all good characteristics.
It's said this story inspired the formalisation of Judaism deuteronomy, as the law to make everyone agree because it incorporate all other laws.
Guessed survival of the fittest even works for deities. For the most part, they were local and their influence expands as their followers' did. Christianity was looked upon as nothing but a small Jewish cult.
Being an atheist who identifies with Hinduism, I would say that there is no god. The entire creation theory is a myth, and it is better to believe in science rather than having a belief in god.
I guess the world would be spared some of the suffering it is having now. Sure, a fully atheistic planet would still have wars but at least it would be over real stuff, not because someone or something up there told his followers to treat people this way or that.
'God is only one and is the source of everything'
It is not possible he killed another god god.
Clay that creates the sun, sky and earth.
What can man create it all besides the one god.
It is not possible he killed another god god.
Clay that creates the sun, sky and earth.
What can man create it all besides the one god.
Well.... a religion is a perversion to begin with. It starts with re - which means to redo. And redo could mean to pervert.
Many antropological evidences shows that religions are a product of a twisted minds. But God have nothing to do with religions. To the contrary I would say.
Many antropological evidences shows that religions are a product of a twisted minds. But God have nothing to do with religions. To the contrary I would say.
Religion are still the ones that cover the topic the most
Yeah. Logical conclusion would be - humans are having a twisted minds quite often, and it happens to be - they like it.
In my opinion, the message of God - for example the message of Jesus Christ is not religious per se. Its actualy antireligious. The words of prophets like Buddha or Zaratrusta are antireligious. They take away from the twisted rituals, they refuse to participate in the old ones. They all have that in common. Ofcourse they leave some twisted mind products that are the least dangerous and mainly refuse to worship the multitude of spirits ( The DEVS) like Zaratrusta did, are agianst the sacrifices and are against the creation of new rituals and new twisted mind products like Jesus and prophets.
The only patriarch that was FOR the rituals was a Moses. But I guess its a matter of a context. Izraelites were in love with the completly twisted egiptian mythos, they needed to have a product of twisted mind like an addict, so they had one that was doing some good to them and to their community. I would interpret it that.
There is fake gold because there is true gold - rumi
I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one? 
For example? How does the clouds are created? Do you know that science does not know that? Yeah you might say they are vapour. But a vapour is not a cloud.
Same with the sun. They have no idea how to create a star other than solunomiscence - thru sound. Thats just some hypothesises they have that it might be atoms splitting or atoms fusing.
So you are saying that they replaced the small gods mythos to no gods mythos. Those are still mythos.
No. I love science. You have got to love science to know that there is a lot yet to discover. There is so much to discover still.
People are claiming science not what it is, but what some enemies of the faith are claiming. Like this guy:
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Science is the only force you can believe actually, because you can see it with your eyes, and touch with your fingers. Today we would be much more advanced society, but we had a huge technological break, and slow downs caused by church and religion...
If thats what he says was true, 80% what is in the schoolbooks should not be labeled as science. Such a people does not even know how much they contradicts themselves. Its so so sad fact about the state of humanity today.
Science is the only force you can believe actually, because you can see it with your eyes, and touch with your fingers. Today we would be much more advanced society, but we had a huge technological break, and slow downs caused by church and religion...
I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one?
For example? How does the clouds are created? Do you know that science does not know that? Yeah you might say they are vapour. But a vapour is not a cloud.
Same with the sun. They have no idea how to create a star other than solunomiscence - thru sound. Thats just some hypothesises they have that it might be atoms splitting or atoms fusing.
So you are saying that they replaced the small gods mythos to no gods mythos. Those are still mythos.
I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one?
For example? How does the clouds are created? Do you know that science does not know that? Yeah you might say they are vapour. But a vapour is not a cloud.
Same with the sun. They have no idea how to create a star other than solunomiscence - thru sound. Thats just some hypothesises they have that it might be atoms splitting or atoms fusing.
So you are saying that they replaced the small gods mythos to no gods mythos. Those are still mythos.
I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one?
Actually, it would be more accurate to assert that people back then explained rain and the sun through the metaphors of different gods. Science describes them with different metaphors that are exclusive to the language of science.At some point in time everything that science asserts today will be regarded in a similar way as the descriptions of ancient cultures are regarded now. It is human nature to constantly make up new ways to perceive the exact same things from a new perspective.
I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one?
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