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legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
Bitcoin is resilient to software and hardware advancement

Even if that were true, what about resilient to government?
Maybe they can't actually shut down the BTC network, but they can criminalize it, and disallow legit businesses from using it.
Then it becomes nothing more than another failed idea in the history books.

Resilient, yes.  Not impervious.
Foreseeably governments may restrict activities within the geographies under dominion.
Though they benefit from not doing so, this makes it less likely.


Possible to restrict; impossible to prohibit.
Just like prohibition ended alcohol?  It may get prohibited somewhere yet.  These are still early days.
If it becomes illegal within a geography, that is another good sign that you don't want to be in that geography (probably not the only sign).
Bitcoin provides an additional level of economic resilience beyond what the state provides on its own.  This lessens the burden of the state and makes that geography more productive.  Places that choose control to their own detriment are not so healthy.  It is a sign that they already feel out of control.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Shame on everything; regret nothing.
Bitcoin is resilient to software and hardware advancement

Even if that were true, what about resilient to government?
Maybe they can't actually shut down the BTC network, but they can criminalize it, and disallow legit businesses from using it.
Then it becomes nothing more than another failed idea in the history books.

Resilient, yes.  Not impervious.
Foreseeably governments may restrict activities within the geographies under dominion.
Though they benefit from not doing so, this makes it less likely.


Possible to restrict; impossible to prohibit.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
Bitcoin is resilient to software and hardware advancement

Even if that were true, what about resilient to government?
Maybe they can't actually shut down the BTC network, but they can criminalize it, and disallow legit businesses from using it.
Then it becomes nothing more than another failed idea in the history books.

Resilient, yes.  Not impervious.
Foreseeably governments may restrict activities within the geographies under dominion.
Though they benefit from not doing so, this makes it less likely.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10

All I know is I'll be happy and walking like the guy in my icon when my btc is worth a cool one mil.



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Another happy person in denial.



You too.
full member
Activity: 182
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All I know is I'll be happy and walking like the guy in my icon when my btc is worth a cool one mil.



+2

Another happy person in denial.

full member
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Merit: 100

All I know is I'll be happy and walking like the guy in my icon when my btc is worth a cool one mil.



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full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Bitcoin is resilient to software and hardware advancement

Even if that were true, what about resilient to government?

Maybe they can't actually shut down the BTC network, but they can criminalize it, and disallow legit businesses from using it.

Then it becomes nothing more than another failed idea in the history books.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
There is nothing special about bitcoin.  Anyone can start a new tree and start mining to transfer value across the internet.  This is likely to be become very attractive if a bitcoin ever reaches an absurd value level.

In the case that government is good (lol) and BTC survives, then the above quote is so true, and most people try ignore that fact.

Most software over time becomes obsolete, due to new hardware, new operating systems, or just better ways of writing the code. I could give a ton of examples of this, and I'm sure everyone reading this can quickly come up with many examples of software that is so old that we don't use it anymore. BTC will obviously evolve and update to newer technology, so even if we do have BTC in 10 years from now, might not even been the same old BTC as before.

If someone was smart enough to create BTC the way it is now, then what is to stop someone from stealing the idea, making a new tree, and possibly modified to be better or more desired?

Math eventually is obsoleted as well, but the leaps between old and new tend to take a LOT longer, and to be more disruptive.
Bitcoin is resilient to software and hardware advancement.  Worry/hope instead about math advancement.
legendary
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newbie
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Mark my words.  Wink

Thats commonplace. The real question is: Will Bitcoin hyperdeflate faster than $ hyperinflates?

I think you may have just burst my bubble!
full member
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If it is made a federal felony or results in time at Gitmo

If it ever comes to that, then I'll immediately delete my BTC wallet file and forever deny ever owning any BitCoins. Not worth the trouble.

If it ever comes to that, I'll immediately buy a plane ticket to a different country and forever deny being from the USA.  Freedom isn't free, but nobody is willing to pay the price anymore.

Very true, and your not the only one. Lots of people looking to leave now, and even go as far as to renounce USA citizenship to avoid having any tax requirements to USA while living in foreign country, but I think there is a big backlog of it now.
legendary
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If it is made a federal felony or results in time at Gitmo

If it ever comes to that, then I'll immediately delete my BTC wallet file and forever deny ever owning any BitCoins. Not worth the trouble.

If it ever comes to that, I'll immediately buy a plane ticket to a different country and forever deny being from the USA.  Freedom isn't free, but nobody is willing to pay the price anymore.
full member
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If it is made a federal felony or results in time at Gitmo

If it ever comes to that, then I'll immediately delete my BTC wallet file and forever deny ever owning any BitCoins. Not worth the trouble.
pwi
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One day you won't be able to exchange BTC for any real money cause Governments and NWO will shut down exchangers and nobody is going to trade with you face to face in fear of under cover raid.

Actually BTC could probably become illegal just like other certain stuff that is illegal to possess on your hard drive. So make sure you have it encrypted (TrueCrypt is free and very good) with a huge 50+ character password including symbols and numbers to make it impossible to brute force in 1000 years, else if they find your BTC wallet you'd probably get 25 to Life for conspiracy to over throw Governments and NWO, labeled as national security risk, and put on no fly list.

Yes, this is our future. Sticking your head in the sand, or putting your fingers in your ears going "la la la..." won't stop it from happening. Some day, you'll wake up.

For the people doing BTC as an investment to make money, the time to cash out is not before the next crash, or the crash after that, but to cash out before you can't cash out anymore, regardless of value. But heck, even if you cash out the day before, nothing to stop the government from tracking and logging whats been going on for a while, and freezing bank accounts from everyone associated with BTC exchangers, etc. Oh can't happen? Look at Liberty Reserve.





You remind me of rigtards in the poker community.  Roll Eyes

I don't agree with either of your lines, but if I'm not mistaken Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet had quite the 'superuser' fiasco a few years back. Pretty rigged IMO. The feds swooping in on Neteller and absconding with players money was also a very real happening for a few of us.

The government can't take Bitcoin unless the users allow it. Many would happily trade fiat for bitcoins off exchange if it came to that. If it is made a federal felony or results in time at Gitmo, we might not be so inclined, but until then Bitcoin as a protocol is as free as the speech in the user's respective country.

Liberty Reserve served a needed place in money services legit and otherwise. That need will continue to be met because it is indeed a need. 

The more legit merchants and individuals that adopt Bitcoin, and the more it proves itself over time; the more impossible it becomes to place Pandora back in her Satoshian box. 
full member
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There is nothing special about bitcoin.  Anyone can start a new tree and start mining to transfer value across the internet.  This is likely to be become very attractive if a bitcoin ever reaches an absurd value level.

In the case that government is good (lol) and BTC survives, then the above quote is so true, and most people try ignore that fact.

Most software over time becomes obsolete, due to new hardware, new operating systems, or just better ways of writing the code. I could give a ton of examples of this, and I'm sure everyone reading this can quickly come up with many examples of software that is so old that we don't use it anymore. BTC will obviously evolve and update to newer technology, so even if we do have BTC in 10 years from now, might not even been the same old BTC as before.

If someone was smart enough to create BTC the way it is now, then what is to stop someone from stealing the idea, making a new tree, and possibly modified to be better or more desired?

A newer coin, even if more innovative, will be perceived, at least initially, as a riskier coin. The age of BTC and its track-record will give it an edge. There may also be significant investment in BTC infrastructure and hardware that is not easily or cheaply adaptable to new coins.
full member
Activity: 182
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There is nothing special about bitcoin.  Anyone can start a new tree and start mining to transfer value across the internet.  This is likely to be become very attractive if a bitcoin ever reaches an absurd value level.

In the case that government is good (lol) and BTC survives, then the above quote is so true, and most people try ignore that fact.

Most software over time becomes obsolete, due to new hardware, new operating systems, or just better ways of writing the code. I could give a ton of examples of this, and I'm sure everyone reading this can quickly come up with many examples of software that is so old that we don't use it anymore. BTC will obviously evolve and update to newer technology, so even if we do have BTC in 10 years from now, might not even been the same old BTC as before.

If someone was smart enough to create BTC the way it is now, then what is to stop someone from stealing the idea, making a new tree, and possibly modified to be better or more desired?
newbie
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Not likely but I will say this;
If you don't think something like this is possible, you have NOT been paying attention...


One day you won't be able to exchange BTC for any real money cause Governments and NWO will shut down exchangers and nobody is going to trade with you face to face in fear of under cover raid.

Actually BTC could probably become illegal just like other certain stuff that is illegal to possess on your hard drive. So make sure you have it encrypted (TrueCrypt is free and very good) with a huge 50+ character password including symbols and numbers to make it impossible to brute force in 1000 years, else if they find your BTC wallet you'd probably get 25 to Life for conspiracy to over throw Governments and NWO, labeled as national security risk, and put on no fly list.

Yes, this is our future. Sticking your head in the sand, or putting your fingers in your ears going "la la la..." won't stop it from happening. Some day, you'll wake up.

For the people doing BTC as an investment to make money, the time to cash out is not before the next crash, or the crash after that, but to cash out before you can't cash out anymore, regardless of value. But heck, even if you cash out the day before, nothing to stop the government from tracking and logging whats been going on for a while, and freezing bank accounts from everyone associated with BTC exchangers, etc. Oh can't happen? Look at Liberty Reserve.




legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
Everyday, FED print 2.8 billion USD, bitcoin generate 3600 coins, that's 777K added USD per bitcoin, and all the other major economys are roughly adding the same amount of fiat per day. In the future, FED is going to print even more USD and bitcoin is going to generate even less per day, so that will happen quickly in a couple of years Wink
legendary
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If the day ever comes where a bitcoin is worth an absurd amount of money, new users jumping onto the bandwagon at that stage will note two things:

1.  It was possible to mine 50 bitcoins with minimal effort once upon a time.  Is a new user looking at million dollar bitcoins going to think that's great?  Someone ran a CPU miner in 2011 and made US$50 million every few weeks.

2.  This point naturally follows on from #1.  There is nothing special about bitcoin.  Anyone can start a new tree and start mining to transfer value across the internet.  This is likely to be become very attractive if a bitcoin ever reaches an absurd value level.

The catch, of course, is creating a new commodity that other people will want to use too.  But if bitcoins ever reach a million dollars there could be a lot of like minded people seeking a much cheaper solution.  Never underestimate the driving force of jealousy.
member
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One day you won't be able to exchange BTC for any real money cause Governments and NWO will shut down exchangers and nobody is going to trade with you face to face in fear of under cover raid.

Actually BTC could probably become illegal just like other certain stuff that is illegal to possess on your hard drive. So make sure you have it encrypted (TrueCrypt is free and very good) with a huge 50+ character password including symbols and numbers to make it impossible to brute force in 1000 years, else if they find your BTC wallet you'd probably get 25 to Life for conspiracy to over throw Governments and NWO, labeled as national security risk, and put on no fly list.

Yes, this is our future. Sticking your head in the sand, or putting your fingers in your ears going "la la la..." won't stop it from happening. Some day, you'll wake up.

For the people doing BTC as an investment to make money, the time to cash out is not before the next crash, or the crash after that, but to cash out before you can't cash out anymore, regardless of value. But heck, even if you cash out the day before, nothing to stop the government from tracking and logging whats been going on for a while, and freezing bank accounts from everyone associated with BTC exchangers, etc. Oh can't happen? Look at Liberty Reserve.





You remind me of rigtards in the poker community.  Roll Eyes
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