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legendary
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April 13, 2020, 11:41:40 AM
#34
We all know that the crypto market is very volatile but at least we can create technical analysis like this that maybe possibly gives an accurate result. Predicting is useless if you don't have technical analysis.
Technical analysis will be complete only if it is equipped with stop-loss which is all about what OP is emphasizing. Technical analysis will help anyone to predict the market directions hence I am not sure what you mean by predicting without technical analysis. You mean predicting randomly? Most people here do trade without stop-loss which makes their trade to be opened for more time period than usual. IF they opt to exit at stop-loss then they can close one trade in loss and may cover that loss in next trade.

I would rather choose to hang on a thread for longer rather than considering on selling up on a loss.
This is what most of the traders are doing because they are more confident about bouncing back of the market. I guess it will be possible only for crypto trading and for any other trading you must exit at stoploss so that you can minimize your losses and you will get another chance to recover your losses.
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April 11, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
#33
Perfect technical analysis, this very useful when you are using a trading bot and you know when to stop-loss by having a right manual set on the trading bot.
Bots have built in stop loss options to be set by the user. But you can always trade without a bot and setting a stop loss, if the platform you are trading on has such an option during placement of the order.

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We all know that the crypto market is very volatile but at least we can create technical analysis like this that maybe possibly gives an accurate result. Predicting is useless if you don't have technical analysis.
Technical analysis does a 50-50 thing to prediction. It does not always predict the market correctly because of several variables being into action and many news and partnerships happening between companies that makes the market move. TA is based on the assumption that market is trading as per an undeviating market psychology, which is not always true. You can buy low and sell high but you wont need TA to tell you that. TA is used more by the day traders.
I agree to this sentiment thats why i do seldom make use of lots of TA's or indicators when it comes to predicting price but somewhat i do simply make use of support and
resistance lines and dont make or use much other than that.SL are good to minimize loss but i do see this is more relevant when dealing with traditional markets but for
crypto? I would rather choose to hang on a thread for longer rather than considering on selling up on a loss.
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April 11, 2020, 04:50:38 PM
#32
Stop loss is must have tool to implement by short term traders and mid term and I don't think its really needed for one who trade once in a while when they can make profits.By the way that is well explained with example which will be helpful for many traders who doesn't know much about it.
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April 11, 2020, 03:00:20 AM
#31
Perfect technical analysis, this very useful when you are using a trading bot and you know when to stop-loss by having a right manual set on the trading bot.
Bots have built in stop loss options to be set by the user. But you can always trade without a bot and setting a stop loss, if the platform you are trading on has such an option during placement of the order.

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We all know that the crypto market is very volatile but at least we can create technical analysis like this that maybe possibly gives an accurate result. Predicting is useless if you don't have technical analysis.
Technical analysis does a 50-50 thing to prediction. It does not always predict the market correctly because of several variables being into action and many news and partnerships happening between companies that makes the market move. TA is based on the assumption that market is trading as per an undeviating market psychology, which is not always true. You can buy low and sell high but you wont need TA to tell you that. TA is used more by the day traders.
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April 11, 2020, 02:37:10 AM
#30
I think perfect analysis of situation is definitely best weapons in trading. Analysis means you should know their project, community,their hard working skills, their management.their team , their ico,  after done these speculation you can enter to market and try to make some profit.
But in the crypto world Cryptocurrencies are increasing every time so very difficult and very risky to trade so do analysis and buy on absolute low point.
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April 09, 2020, 02:01:02 PM
#29
Perfect technical analysis, this very useful when you are using a trading bot and you know when to stop-loss by having a right manual set on the trading bot. We all know that the crypto market is very volatile but at least we can create technical analysis like this that maybe possibly gives an accurate result. Predicting is useless if you don't have technical analysis.
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April 09, 2020, 01:46:49 PM
#28
I never like using stop loss, I would rather just ride out the storm instead of letting a stop hunting whale pick up my coins for cheap.  If your in any good coin it will always rebound if you are patient enough to wait it out.

I also did a mistake of not using a stop-loss during my few trades and the result is that my portfolios is too much down because of this. I would also recommend all the new and old traders to always use the stop loss because the market so much volatile and we never know if any coin may dump unexpectedly.
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April 09, 2020, 01:14:45 PM
#27
After worst experiencing for the best strategy to make a trade profitable is that always buy in depth and should be must use stop loss option upto 5% and then wait till its recovering you should be a give it a sufficient time to be bounce back.
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April 09, 2020, 11:02:46 AM
#26
Lol stop loss has been a weapon for traders for years, either manually putting it in the system at the exchange or using a bot, basically everyone who is decent at trading has been using this for years now, it is a bit interesting to see that stop loss finally gets the attention it deserves because every single person, even the smallest of the investors and traders should be using stop loss nowadays, without that you are basically going into lions den without your weapons as a meat and nothing more.

However I would also suggest using it smartly and not just putting it at 1% or something, those type of changes always happens, if you want to take good advantage of it, put it on support (a bit below) so you would actually get out before the storm comes in.
legendary
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April 08, 2020, 04:28:28 AM
#25
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I don't really consider myself as a trader yet, other than your usual transaction transfer. And although I've somehow heard or read about this before, but definitely not as detailed as you've explained it here for us.

Thanks for the tip and for taking the time to teach the rest of us, newbies, to be more confident when trading later!
Welcome here! For sure, you will try soon some trading as you go along. And if you are not so busy, you can try or explore the trading world.
If you will have some spare cash or extra money soon, for sure you will think about trading in cryptocurrency and always think about what I said in the first post since I also experienced some there when I started to trade as a newbie.
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April 08, 2020, 01:58:11 AM
#24
Have you ever experienced doing trade and ended it up by #HODLING? (You bought a coin and waiting to pump, but unfortunately it dumps, and decided to wait for it until it pumps)
Have you ever experienced liquidated on Margin Trading Exchanges? (Huge red/green wick candle? Cheesy)

I want to share my weapon against that situation. Meet, STOP-LOSS.
What is Stop-loss?
Stop-loss is accepting your loss on the trade or you are minimizing your loss or cutting loss before getting rekt in ahead of time.

Most of the exchanges don't have Market Stop-loss only the Limit stop-loss as far as I experienced different exchanges.


Conclusion
Using stop-loss is not worst at all. Accepting our loss is not bad. Minimizing our loss is absolutely good than maximizing it.
There will be a good trade set-up. Not all the time are good to trade, sometimes the best trade is not to trade.

I don't really consider myself as a trader yet, other than your usual transaction transfer. And although I've somehow heard or read about this before, but definitely not as detailed as you've explained it here for us.

Thanks for the tip and for taking the time to teach the rest of us, newbies, to be more confident when trading later!
legendary
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April 08, 2020, 12:20:09 AM
#24
BUMP
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August 12, 2019, 12:35:32 AM
#23
Minimizing the loss while doing trading is one of the important factor to be successful trader but people regrets their loss and give up when they have the lots of opportunities to be missed on the next trades.Always watch the market like hawk and hit the most successful trade if you are lucky enough.

When they give up, they don't have any chance to recover their losses in the past. Many traders feel that because they thought that they could not get a good time to buy any coins at a low price so they cannot back to make a profit. But if they can learn more about stop-loss, especially from this thread, I think that they can know how to prevent the big losses and even they will have time to search for the profit. Stop-loss will be the best weapons for every trader to avoid the losses if the market is run without notice like today.
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August 11, 2019, 11:27:11 PM
#22
What you said is totally not far from the truth, these is really one of the greatest weapon that any trader can use if he is really serious about controlling his emotion and also serious about minimizing risk in trading. It is a weapon that no newbie should ever joke with, although to me, it is more like a weapon for margin, but I think it is also useful for any form of trader, although I don’t use this tool that much because I could term my trade as something that is just very similar to holding.

I place my order and keep watching till I see a surge in the price of the cryptocurrency, that is why I don’t bother setting stop loss, but I trade only in bitcoin because even if the price goes down, I know that it will surely bounce back, if I set stop loss, I will still be the one to lose some coins.
legendary
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August 10, 2019, 02:11:42 AM
#21
I still got confused on you explanation, meaning all I need to is to set the amount in which I think I will be loss. At least if goes down rapidly I am safe for the huge loss. Is that what you're talking about? Just all I know is there many sellers I will sell then if there many buyers I
will buy coins, just simple as that.
Even not rapidly, once your analysis goes on the other side, or if you do chart, once it becomes invalidated(e.g. broke support/resistance, pattern didn't go on what you expected)
Doesn't mean there are many sellers it will go down, or vice versa with buyers, there are many fake huge sell/buy orders just to fool other traders.
sr. member
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August 09, 2019, 10:41:21 PM
#20
Minimizing the loss while doing trading is one of the important factor to be successful trader but people regrets their loss and give up when they have the lots of opportunities to be missed on the next trades.Always watch the market like hawk and hit the most successful trade if you are lucky enough.
Of course its important, because sometimes the price falls very deep, and if you don't immediately make a choice then you will suffer greater losses and of course it will be very bad for the stability of your wallet finances. but you are right, it does not mean you have to do stop loss every time prices fall, because not always falling prices will bring bad things, because it happened for a while. You must be like an hawk who is good at seeing opportunities
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August 09, 2019, 11:38:31 AM
#19
Have you ever experienced doing trade and ended it up by #HODLING? (You bought a coin and waiting to pump, but unfortunately it dumps, and decided to wait for it until it pumps)
Have you ever experienced liquidated on Margin Trading Exchanges? (Huge red/green wick candle? Cheesy)

I want to share my weapon against that situation. Meet, STOP-LOSS.
What is Stop-loss?
Stop-loss is accepting your loss on the trade or you are minimizing your loss or cutting loss before getting rekt in ahead of time.

Why we need to use stop-loss?
Example:

As you can see the example above, you minimize your loss around 5%, because if you didn't exit on your trade or accepted your loss, you can lose a huge amount in the future if the price continues to dump.
Onto your next trade! Always remember that there will be always a good setup and sometimes much better if you learn how to accept your loss.


Where we can use stop-loss?
Let's say your trading style is about support and resistance.
If you have a long entry, the best to put your stop-loss is on below on the support.
If you have short entry, the best to put your stop-loss is on above the resistance.

It's always up to you where you can set your stop-loss, just always remember that when you use it, you are minimizing your loss in ahead of time or once your chart becomes invalidated.


How to use stop-loss?
You can set your stop-loss once you already had your entry, so this order will be executed based on your condition manually entered.
Example on Bitmex:

For example, I bought(long) $500 worth of BTC at the price of $12,000.
I set my stop-loss sell order on $11,500, less $500 on my entry price.
So, once the price of BTC goes below or on $11,500, my sell order executed and I only lost around 4% on that trade.

This is example for Binance of Limit Stop-loss:
You will set an order:

and


Most of the exchanges don't have Market Stop-loss only the Limit stop-loss as far as I experienced different exchanges.


Conclusion
Using stop-loss is not worst at all. Accepting our loss is not bad. Minimizing our loss is absolutely good than maximizing it.
There will be a good trade set-up. Not all the time are good to trade, sometimes the best trade is not to trade.

I still got confused on you explanation, meaning all I need to is to set the amount in which I think I will be loss. At least if goes down rapidly I am safe for the huge loss. Is that what you're talking about? Just all I know is there many sellers I will sell then if there many buyers I
will buy coins, just simple as that.
legendary
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August 09, 2019, 09:30:16 AM
#18
Within the next five days, that is important period for bitcoin. Personally, I already made my stop-loss and profit-taking orders.
Like that (taking profits at $13300, while cutting loss at $10800):
I also suggest other newbie crypto-traders to do this. For experts, I don't mention about them here, because they actually can make better orders than mine.
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August 09, 2019, 04:56:32 AM
#17
This is a good weapon for short term trading, but honestly if I use stop loss on my investment, I would not be down right now with my portfolio but not regretting it. When I say the word "HOLD" and we mean it, we won't worry regardless of what will happen to the price as we have a big target of profit.
Still I'm proud to say that I "HODL" despite of the big fall after 2017.
legendary
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August 09, 2019, 03:29:31 AM
#16
Yeah, people are really not caring about stop loss as much as they should if they will end up selling anyway. I mean there are holders who do not mind like me that buy at any price at all and just keep it there forever, I am not a fan of selling my coins and I usually just hold as long as possible (except if there is some emergency that requires me to cash out) so that is why I still hold a bunch of coins, some of them even dropped like hell but I am still keeping them.

However, at the same time I do not understand people who sell very low, if you were aiming at selling that low why didn't you just put a stop loss and sold for a lot higher from what you end up selling it at. If anyone decides that they would be willing to sell when price falls %20, should put a stop loss at %5 as well to make sure they don't lose that much.
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