One of ways to identify scams - page 2.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on October 15, 2023, 02:35:53 PM

This is a page from https://pinetstore.cc asking for phrase
Apart from this its a very young site asking for phrase, well could be trusted but has pi netwok made an official announcement?? I don't think so. Can we say its a scam??

That's left to us Grin

Even if it's a hundred years old site, why is anybody asking for the phrase of another person? It's a private phrase. No one else should have it. It's no more a secret if you can give it out to strangers, is it?
It's sad to see that people still fall for things like this.
No matter who the message comes from, consider it as a scam. Even if the message comes from the Pi network itself. There is no other use of your seed phrase aside from gaining access to your wallet. Even you don't have any other use for the phrase aside from gaining access to your wallet, why should someone else want it?

We have to be extra careful out there. Cybercriminals don't relent, so we shouldn't either. They will construct different means to extract personal details from us.
This is another reason this forum is a lifesaver.

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To be quite frank:

1. Although this is still alarming, nobody should fall to this kind of scam. This isn't a sophisticated scam. This is a dumb scam. To anybody who has a seed phrase, it is a very basic knowledge that it shouldn't be shared with anybody. Anybody who asks for it should be a fraud. That's as basic as the sun would rise in the east.

2. This is about Pi, which is another scam. Anything related to a scam must also be a scam. Pi is a scam. A store which uses Pi as a currency is a scam. Anybody assigning value to Pi is a scambug.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on October 15, 2023, 02:35:53 PM

The way scamming keeps growing is now alarming or it have always been alarming but much more now .

If you are on track with Web scams unknowingly mostly investment and purchase, once it's getting to the point of add phrase, drop it its a scam so far its not a noncustodial wallet setup or you have a choice to do a thorough checkup and research

This is a page from https://pinetstore.cc asking for phrase
Apart from this its a very young site asking for phrase, well could be trusted but has pi netwok made an official announcement?? I don't think so. Can we say its a scam??

That's left to us Grin

Also if you check the value of pi required to purchase Item below it's looks somehow fishy to entice users.

Believe it most scams gain trust through short time honesty approximately deceit to gain more attention from audience who eventually fall victim as it's crashes in a short period of time.

Other tips to verify a scam site

Do research If there are ads of other scam site
Check reviews although it doesn't work sometimes as they pay off reviewers but still part of tips
Check the duration of existence for a particular site
Check the Trust level over the years

Among others i could mention, it's a good advice to learn more

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Verifying and background check help for a site from a large forum talk like Bitcointalk.org
Using tools provided by some websites to track scam websites e.g
Website - https://www.scamadviser.com/

You know one problem with most people is that they DONT READ IN BETWEEN THE LINES, and some are stubborn too to have listening ears. Scam in this generation is nothing to write home about because they come now in different styles and tricks, those too who are engaged in free airdrops giveaways fall a victim to these stuff most likely.

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Quote from: Coyster on October 15, 2023, 02:49:37 PM

I don't know anything about this website you are trying to make purchase in, neither do i know much about the pi network (other than many people are mining Pi, thinking it'd be the next Bitcoin Tongue

), nevertheless you shouldn't enter your seed phrase in any website or in anywhere at all. Only enter your seed phrase if you are attempting to import your wallet, and even then you must be careful of the software you are importing it into, you ought to verify it and do it offline if possble.

I agree with your statement.

Majority of the scams can be avoided if a person does not share any of his/her personal information in sketchy websites. In addition, if you encounter a website that offers free giveaways that is too good to be true, then avoid it at all cost. Remember, prevention is better than cure- nothing is free in this world as everything has an equivalent.

If a person randomly adds you and messages you telling to invest on their business or to purchase any kind of investment scheme, be doubtful and ignore it. Again, scams can definitely be avoided if you remain skeptical about everything and their processes.

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In fact, we often encounter this type of scam, and there are still people who are affected. Whether it's due to a lack of knowledge, experience, too much trust, or because the promise of money earned is too high, to the point of destroying our common sense.

In this case, what we really need to remember is: Never provide or enter important data such as phrases to anyone, on any platform, and with any instructions. Because phrases are very sensitive and important so that we can access our wallet. And if we give it to someone else, the risk is that they can access our wallet easily. Even though they promise that our data is safe, don't ever believe that. Stop if they ask you to.

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Thanks for this awareness on scam, though alot had been said and discussed about scam and will still continue in other to safe those that might be coming in contact with such being for the first time, we need to know different tactics and modes scammers can use to attack us, identifying scam comes with different tasks that we had to start with knowing different kinds of these scams and how their operations takes place, this will help us know how we can prevent ourselves from such whenever we come in contact with such at anytime.

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You need to keep one thing in mind a good deal won't come to you 90% of the time you need to find it and work for it to earn it. If someone or any project offers something attractive to you, he is trying to sell it to you. That product or service can be beneficial for you and sometimes it won't but it will be for the seller because he will earn profits by selling it to you. So try to figure out who is profiting more from the deal you will make.

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Such fraudulent websites continue to grow rapidly, and can even disguise themselves well with the same website name but with different letters.
The main indications of fraud are unreasonable bonuses, asking for your password or secret wallet key and being asked to make a deposit on an unclear exchange website as well as several sales of cheap goods that are very far from market prices.
In fact, all reviewers or accounts that comment are part of a scammer ring.
Be careful from now on because the scams are getting more sophisticated and don't look like typical scams.

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Scammers are also trying to be innovative and are always looking for new ways rob people of their funds. When making a purchase from an online store, it’s best to keep to and buy reputable and known stores.
Greed in people is mostly what gets them scammed of their money as people are lured in with what they stand to gain. You’re on an online store and the prices of items are looking too good and too cheap to be true, it most likely is but that wouldn’t stop some people despite knowing how much those items actually cost.

We easily trust without having to confirm things for ourselves and without greed clouding our minds and thoughts, some research online would easily reveal mistakes from scam deals and websites.

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Quote from: BitDane on October 16, 2023, 04:52:23 PM

If the offer is too good to be true, it is more likely a scam. If a seller is offering an item that is way lower than the selling price, we should be alarmed that the possibility of scam is high.

If you are told to bring one to collect two it is a scam...
If you are pressured to make a certain payment, it is a scam...
If you are promised a free money, it is also a scam...
We have known many means that scammers use to rip people off their money but what give scammers upper hand is our desire to earn large while putting in little efforts. It is based on this greed that the scammers feed on to decieve many, especially the newbies.

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If the offer is too good to be true, it is more likely a scam. If a seller is offering an item that is way lower than the selling price, we should be alarmed that the possibility of scam is high. It is either the item that will be delivered to you is a fake or other garbage items (for cash on delivery) or the item won't be delivered at all (for online payment before the item is delivered).

There had been lots of cases where people ordering a gadget received a box with garbage item on it. Reviews an be faked since the scammer can put a review lying about the successful trades.

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Quote from: Z390 on October 16, 2023, 10:57:18 AM

How did you stumble on this website?

I got it from a Facebook page advert, funny though as it's made over 10k likes with 2k comments with larger positive comments. I believe many a lot of people would have been scammed already

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How did you stumble on this website? Because it's like someone looking for something that's not lost, the link to this website should be hiding in something or maybe because the website is all about selling some goods, where is the advert that can look attractive to people to make them visit that website? It looks stupid to me because they can't even spell the word passphrase correctly, what is passphraft?

There are some links that doesn't need to be visited before you know that it's a bad one, I wonder what could make me want to access a pinetstore.cc anyway, that's why I ask how you find this website, what where you looking for? It kinda make your post pointless but anyway, you are new and it's expected of newbies.

When you come across good offers online either in gadgets, money and finance it's probably a scam because no one wants the best for others without getting something back in return, only the stories of ' we are all happy, it's a win - win situation for all of us, this is the only thing that's genuine only now, if not it's a scam.

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Aside from identifying scam, but are you serious about buying a phone from an unknown service provider? There are additional risks that are not related to the price. Even if the phone reaches you, the phone may have been stolen or been used by hackers, or its components have been tampered with to contain backdoors that steal your data, so Do not buy a phone except from a well-known store.
As for identifying fraud, you can avoid 90% by asking questions, reading reviews, and not using any unreliable service, but sometimes there is fraud that is difficult to detect, as happened with FTX, so the rule remains that you do not trust a third party when it comes to your money.

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The domain is already free, which once again suggests that this was a one-time site written on the knee. It's amazing how people can become interested in a site that is made very unprofessionally and has a very low popularity rating. People are greedy by nature, but it’s a shame for those who earn their money through hard work and subsequently trust it to scammers. There is a good saying that the stingy and greedy pay twice. If you are tempted by a cheap product, you can not only get a fake but also get nothing at all.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on October 15, 2023, 02:35:53 PM

Can we say its a scam??

It's a scam, Because Pie Also seems scam, There are lot of Pinterest pins rank all over Pinterest which offer free iPhone gift cards, etc. Most of them try to use you for their CPA completion and some try to scam you like you are sharing now. First of all the real businesses try to keep their site up or write their "Site maintenance is going on, come back later" And this site is down.
To detect scam, you can use the methods mentioned in OP, all of them are helpful and I agree.
And to detect scam, anything that I see on the internet that is free and looks like obvious scam, like your free iPhones, free cash, free tokens etc., is 99% likely to be a scam.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on October 16, 2023, 02:55:36 AM

One thing scammers work on, apart from the naivety of their victims, is greed. Scammers know this and work on it to hoodwink their victims. They make promising offers and the greedy ones fall for them.

It is correct!

People only need to be not greedy or over greedy to realize that any offer that is too good to be true, is untrue and they will smell scams easily like this.

If they are greedy or worse, over greedy, any word to them will be non sense. Of course, we can tell them red flags but I am very surely most of them will ignore our warnings when greed already controls their minds.

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One thing scammers work on, apart from the naivety of their victims, is greed. Scammers know this and work on it to hoodwink their victims. They make promising offers and the greedy ones fall for them. I don't know if there's a natural law to it but I've an inkling that there's something like that which nature follows – If you aren't greedy you won't be trapped by enticing word and ROI. People like unrealistic returns and will easily jump on the slightest opportunity at that, not minding obvious red flags they may notice. If someone is scammed because they invested in such schemes that promise high returns, they should blame themselves.

About Pi, I don't know its connection with Pinetstore.cc but I've read about people exchanging for fiat. There's a rush to accumulate it and I don't know what the use is for since it's still enclosed within the Pi community in so much secrecy. That's not how a Blockchain works.

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I am not sure if this kind of website will be able to be detected by some extensions like the Metamask extensions (I know Metamask has a feature like this).
Another thing to identify this is to try to search in google or any search engine for the domain/website of the platform and for sure you will get a list of results like it will show you some feedback from other people saying this website is a scam or legit, just double check everything.

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It seems like it is targeting those pi users which the project is also likely a scam. So, it turns out that a likely scam project has got and produced another scammer that tries to phish its users.

With all of those tips, it all ends up with the simple;

DYOR.

And with the obvious about websites asking for your keys, never give it to them because it should only be kept by none other than you.

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