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legendary
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I posted in the self-moderated thread, but in case it gets deleted I'll post here too:

I see problems with this site:

1) The game isn't provably fair for players since the betid is used in generating your roll. If you make a big bet and were due to win, the site can easily just delay your bet for a fraction of a second, process someone else's bet first (or insert one of their own) and give you a different betid. That will give you a different roll, which you might lose. They can keep doing this until you get a losing roll.

2) Similarly it isn't provably fair for investors.

3) The investment model seems broken. For 0.1 BTC you get 0.001% of the profits. That would be fair if the bankroll was 10,000 BTC but I very much doubt it is. Suppose the true bankroll is 1,000 BTC. That means the site is paying out 10,000 times 0.001% or just 10% of their profits to investors, and taking 10% commission on that. The net result is that the site only pays out 9% of their profits and keeps the remaining 91%. That would be fair if the site themselves had bought the other 90,000 "shares", and 9,000 BTC in a cold wallet to back that up with, but that seems unlikely. I mean there's nothing wrong with this model, but it's a very bad deal indeed for investors compared to other sites.

4) I don't see any proof of solvency. Where's the cold wallet?

5) OP seems to have bought his forum account. RandyFolds didn't write like that. Buying accounts with positive trust for the purpose of running a site that claims to be provably fair for players and investors but isn't should set off alarm bells.
member
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Just thought I'd offer another opinion on this site after seeing it launch..

For those who don't know, there's an older casino/dice site running under the name 'LuckyNumber' which was proven by another user to not be provably fair (link to this post).
The casino's "provably fair" method was created in such a way that ANY bet at ANY time could be manipulated and force a loss to the user, regardless if he chose a client seed / different bet chance.

After I saw this, I thought that luckynumber might be using this to pull extra funds by manipulating bets, so I did a little research into the site and found that giftcoins (the 'administrator') and zeeshanblc (a 'player') where the same person. The link for this information can be found here.

What they were doing was creating a large number of fake bets, raising the volume of their site to make it look active and to make it look like players were winning lots of coins off the site. However all these alternative accounts were linked directly to the address linked on zeeshanblc's account.


How does this relate to onedice?

Looking at the first post in this thread, there are a few things that show that luckynumber and onedice are the same site.

  • Both domains registered by the same registrar (Tucows)
  • Both websites share very similar meta descriptions and meta keywords

I've gone and taken a look at the two sites myself to make a comparison and see what else they share in common!

  • Imgur album with a few pic comparisons
  • Site structure is the same, ie js files stored under /assets/front/js/file.js
  • Both sites spell loses as 'looses' (css class)

Furthermore the style of writing by RandyFolds is pretty close to giftcoins, it's a sort of broken English thing.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
Looks like RandyFolds is a hacked account, and the hacker was trying to sell it. Tecshare, do you have any further info?

No this is not hacked account if you really want to know.
If you have not been hacked please contact me and I will verify for everyone here. If you are really the original account owner you know how to do this outside of the forum.
legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
All's well as long as the positive trust is removed.

Ok, remove the positive trust I'm fine with that, but giving me negative trust based on BS is just trust system abuse. Calling me or the site scam while i never scammed or intended to scam anyone is just shitty act.

Some investors are pissed about your move so you know.

I will not discuss anything with stunna as he made his conclusions and decisions already. People on this forum should use their own brains and not blindly listen what few people say here, especially when they run competitor site's.

1. Your website claims to be "provably fair" for investors, this is a blatant lie.

2. There is a mountain of evidence that you are giftcoins / luckynumber / zeeshanblc . You could actually start viewing some of the evidence and try to refute it instead of claiming it is all one giant coincidence.

3. It's extremely pathetic that you purchased a default trust account just to leave me negative feedback in retaliation. Supposedly the same account claims to have invested 300 coins on the site.


All bitcoin dice investment schemes could very well be scams, but in this situation I'm 100% certain that yours is.
copper member
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Looks like RandyFolds is a hacked account, and the hacker was trying to sell it. Tecshare, do you have any further info?
He tried to get me to buy his account also, and I asked him to make at least one post (as it had not posted in ~1 year) to get the attention of the true owner if it in fact was hacked, and he refused to do so (he actually ignored my request, which I would consider a refusal). I also asked him if he can sign a message from an old unedited post with a BTC address and his response was
find one and I will see

So what you are saying, that he did not have access to that account and yet after he started a dice site with it? Doesn't make any sense.

I see you are one of those account traders, I bet you don't reveal your sold accounts once sold. I wonder how would someone react after paying you 4BTC for that Hero account on default trust list you have for sale and then having everyone calling him a scammer because he bought that account.
I am saying that he did not want to attract attention to the account by posting with it. If the account was hacked several months ago the new owner could have made a new account when he was unable to access his old account. If the old owner saw his old account making posts they he might claim that it was hacked.

I did not purchase nor sell this account because there was a question over ownership. If you want to scam then confidentiality will not be kept. If you want to use your account for non obvious scamming purposes then there is no reason for me to disclose that an account was sold.
newbie
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Looks like RandyFolds is a hacked account, and the hacker was trying to sell it. Tecshare, do you have any further info?
He tried to get me to buy his account also, and I asked him to make at least one post (as it had not posted in ~1 year) to get the attention of the true owner if it in fact was hacked, and he refused to do so (he actually ignored my request, which I would consider a refusal). I also asked him if he can sign a message from an old unedited post with a BTC address and his response was
find one and I will see

So what you are saying, that he did not have access to that account and yet after he started a dice site with it? Doesn't make any sense.

I see you are one of those account traders, I bet you don't reveal your sold accounts once sold. I wonder how would someone react after paying you 4BTC for that Hero account on default trust list you have for sale and then having everyone calling him a scammer because he bought that account.
copper member
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Looks like RandyFolds is a hacked account, and the hacker was trying to sell it. Tecshare, do you have any further info?
He tried to get me to buy his account also, and I asked him to make at least one post (as it had not posted in ~1 year) to get the attention of the true owner if it in fact was hacked, and he refused to do so (he actually ignored my request, which I would consider a refusal). I also asked him if he can sign a message from an old unedited post with a BTC address and his response was
find one and I will see
sr. member
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Also, I'm not sure if account selling is still allowed on this forum but it has been proven to almost exclusively been used for fraud purposes or to spam for signature campaign money. Theymos needs to come out and condemn it if this is still the case which I believe it is.
Why do you think that your opinion has any more influence than anyone else and that you can just call theymos out like that?
You're the king of assumptions, and this thread especially the domain registrars proved nothing. No valid evidence in this thread what so ever
sr. member
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All's well as long as the positive trust is removed.

Ok, remove the positive trust I'm fine with that, but giving me negative trust based on BS is just trust system abuse. Calling me or the site scam while i never scammed or intended to scam anyone is just shitty act.

Some investors are pissed about your move so you know.

I will not discuss anything with stunna as he made his conclusions and decisions already. People on this forum should use their own brains and not blindly listen what few people say here, especially when they run competitor site's.
sr. member
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Looks like RandyFolds is a hacked account, and the hacker was trying to sell it. Tecshare, do you have any further info?

No this is not hacked account if you really want to know.
sr. member
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i cant withdraw the fund , Thanks stuna for Warning Dont invest in the site it is SCAM.

You got your funds so you should correct your statement and you should not be a part of angry stunna mob.

Some withdrawals are processed manually and some are not, all you should have done is wait few hours
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Looks like RandyFolds is a hacked account, and the hacker was trying to sell it. Tecshare, do you have any further info?
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
i cant withdraw the fund , Thanks stuna for Warning Dont invest in the site it is SCAM.

I PMed you prior to leaving them negative trust in hopes you'd get paid. Perhaps they will refill the wallet and pay you though depending on the amount.

If not I'll send you any info I have on them.
Completely off-topic but did you watch Wicked?

You left this feedback:

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   Defaulted on .4 loan and tried to go on scam rampage/phish rampage prior. Good deeds don't go unpunished

on someone.

In Wicked, Alphaba sings, "No good deed goes unpunished!" Coincidence?
legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
i cant withdraw the fund , Thanks stuna for Warning Dont invest in the site it is SCAM.

I PMed you prior to leaving them negative trust in hopes you'd get paid. Perhaps they will refill the wallet and pay you though depending on the amount.

If not I'll send you any info I have on them.
legendary
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i cant withdraw the fund , Thanks stuna for Warning Dont invest in the site it is SCAM.
legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
Not sure if Stunna was already aware of this info but it looks to be confirmed that it is infact a sold account:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/onedice-signature-campaign-0001post-upfront-809660
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-delete-topic-810268

Two new deals. One from OneDice and Barwick Mining. Stunna has alleged that OneDice is probably a scam site though, but I reckon they will probably pay out for their signatures (or at least for a bit).
The previous owner of the RandyFolds account was PM spamming several people who have threads open on the digital goods section selling forum accounts (via group PM) trying to sell his account for 1 BTC (I can't find the PM but he PMed myself, QuickSeller and AccountTrader) he then PMed just me a while later offering to sell it for .8 BTC. I found him to be annoying AF but I suspect that someone purchased the account for the positive trust (presumably to get people to join their signature campaign w/o escrow)

EDIT: this if regarding the OneDice campaign

Thanks for the update. Pretty safe to say this is a case closed. Keep eyes peeled for their next account/investment site iteration. Investment dice sites are never provably fair for investors, don't waste your money investing on them.
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
All's well as long as the positive trust is removed.
legendary
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Also, I'm not sure if account selling is still allowed on this forum but it has been proven to almost exclusively been used for fraud purposes or to spam for signature campaign money. Theymos needs to come out and condemn it if this is still the case which I believe it is.
This is only going to create a false sense of security. It should be more public that account selling is allowed so people know to exercise caution.

I do not like the fact that the account was apparently sold because of the fact that it has positive trust. IMO this is an abuse of the trust system
hero member
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no longer selling accounts
This is just not right, calling someone scammer and that site is a scam based on your assumptions. To me that site is not scam until they do something wrong.

As for that account:
- if it was sold, so what, there is a good reason people start this way instead from 0 with newbie accounts, this doesn't mean anything
- account not being active for a year doesn't mean anything, I don't write here so much as I used as well.


Self moderated thread, I wonder what you wrote. I doubt it was nice and on topic since he deleted it.


The account has positive/green trust. It is assumed that people with "green" trust can be trusted with large amounts of money. This is very different then buying an account to get a higher payout from a signature campaign as it easily allows someone to scam for a potentially large amount of money.

As hilariousandco correctly quoted me as saying the previous owner of this account did try to sell his account for 1 BTC which is much higher then the market value of a "normal" senior account with his activity level, therefore I would conclude that he was trying to get someone to buy it for the "green" trust.
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Not sure if Stunna was already aware of this info but it looks to be confirmed that it is infact a sold account:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/onedice-signature-campaign-0001post-upfront-809660
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-delete-topic-810268

Two new deals. One from OneDice and Barwick Mining. Stunna has alleged that OneDice is probably a scam site though, but I reckon they will probably pay out for their signatures (or at least for a bit).
The previous owner of the RandyFolds account was PM spamming several people who have threads open on the digital goods section selling forum accounts (via group PM) trying to sell his account for 1 BTC (I can't find the PM but he PMed myself, QuickSeller and AccountTrader) he then PMed just me a while later offering to sell it for .8 BTC. I found him to be annoying AF but I suspect that someone purchased the account for the positive trust (presumably to get people to join their signature campaign w/o escrow)

EDIT: this if regarding the OneDice campaign
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