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mo
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If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!
Which exchange are you referring, can you share some more information? $3 million at the of DeepOnion ATH which mean BTC was maximum $17000 (I'm sure it was low). According to that the listing price was ~175 BTC. I can't see any of reputed exchanges to charge such huge amount to be listed in exchange while Binance charges the most of 150 BTC at maximum- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-exchanges-comparison-trade-fee-listing-fee-age-mobile-app-more-5079048
There are more exchanges other than Binance which can be referred as tier-1. However, exchange listing doesn't matter that much. We had Kucoin but being delisted from Kucoin was the worst which DEV team could hold on by introducing some trading competition etc etc.
And you said project is planning long term, any sign of that?

2: There is no clear completion time for the team's plan execution, which is very incomprehensible. Of course, everything will encounter problems, but there should also be a clear time schedule. Without a clear time schedule, is it a good dream for the holder?
Agree here, team should have come up with new roadmap to make some good progress of the project, of course the roadmap must be fulfilled on time.

DeepSend with 1000 ONION has been released. Do we have any targeted group of users, how are we reaching to them?
Contact transactions for all ZB.com, huobi, OKcoin. Their list fees are 2 to 3 million US dollars

At that time, the market value of the development funds was the highest. You can't calculate it at $20 each. Someone must accept the price of 175 BTC in exchange.




Thank you for mentioning these additional information.

To your points:

1. Nice that the Team was willing, but more important is the result than the willing.

2. Really all big exchanges requested listing fee of 3 million USD? And even if so, only the Dev fund was worth of more than 50 million USD at that time. Now, it's worth only around 150,000 USD so the result is that DeepOnion has neither good exchange nor funds to get listed.

3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.

4. No coin can 100% guarantee that the price won't go below the listing price. With such condition, no coin would be listed ever, does not make sense at all.

But listing on a big exchange was probably not the biggest mistake, considering the fact that DeepOnion did not manage to keep listed even on mid-sized exchange Kucoin due to low volumes. Bigger mistake is missing marketing which would bring new investors and traders creating both volume and price increase. Then the listing on some bigger exchange will become more relevant.

And I'd be happy to support the project, but tell me, what are the long-term goals? I don't see any of them defined in an updated roadmap.
I do not make any investment advice. It is recommended that you talk more with the exchange to understand the truth. Everyone cares about the return on their investment, and they are all greedy. Remember to find the right investment
sr. member
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Merit: 386
DeepOnion Your Utility Coin with Ultimate Privacy
Linux DeepSend without DV V 2.1.2
Registered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dix4r1CHMKXHYxRrrPjQiDXRCBWyDRdKTe.

MAC/OSX DeepSend wallet V 2.1.2
https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion/releases/download/v2.1.2/DeepOnion-Qt-DV-v2.1.2.dmg
Registered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dix4r1CHMKXHYxRrrPjQiDXRCBWyDRdKTe.

Here are some fresh nodes with new DeepOnion DeepSend 1 000 ONION limit.

deeponion5vakcv6.onion:17570
v6e7zrgslx77m2vj.onion:17570
ymvzsujbndj7tggi.onion:17570
bi2xn7gxyundcbxq.onion:17571
qseqkozt3e4l6aax.onion:17571
mxetyoukwttchuir.onion:17571
cmusm467a6gzu6ru.onion:17570
jqz7vd3utr4ogskp.onion:17570
v2a6e3x5ppiy2ifs.onion:17570
d2uxsn7aa6xmfkeg.onion:17570
sqd5do4upzmrdb7y.onion:17570
o5bvllhydrjyvlcz.onion:17570
vt7mfqabcrguzxn7.onion:17570
wu6o64grqxmkdt2m.onion:17570
lizzei6s242lxxkk.onion:17570
kosemaivk7zuz4zw.onion17570
jrehkw4svevbrywn.onion:17570
ti3yonjdd47sgeul.onion:17570
zwlne6ei2dwbofjd.onion:17570
exj3ylgmjgd434tg.onion:17570
z67ynz42jikr6cj.onion:17570

other nodes and updated list here
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/1st-deepsend-node-update-list.43979/

new DeepSend forum opened
https://deeponion.org/community/forums/deepsend.175/
jr. member
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3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.
That was not possible. The maximum volume was 3.20 million on January 09, 2018. I don't think there was enough liquidity at that moment to dump 150000 ONION (@$20). It would destroy the market without any doubt.
However, listing on some bigger exchanges was definitely possible back then but now we are left none.

I see higher volume on 10th January 2018 above 4 million on CMC, but that's not so important. Of course, it was not possible to dump whole amount during one day, it would not be a good idea even with higher volume. But it was possible to sell smaller amounts during the peak of price and volume which lasted around one week. Even with average price of around 15 USD per ONION, still would be a great deal.

Of course, it's easy to say this now, when we have all these past data. And I'm also not saying that listing fee of 3 million USD is acceptable regardless of ONION price. Therefore I questioned it, I'm pretty sure that there were cheaper options.

But most important is the general logic here. When the project has all funds in highly volatile ONION, it is not a wise decision in terms of risk management and project financing. There is a short peak with high value and then long time with very low value preventing any serious spending on development, marketing, listing, etc.
sr. member
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3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.
That was not possible. The maximum volume was 3.20 million on January 09, 2018. I don't think there was enough liquidity at that moment to dump 150000 ONION (@$20). It would destroy the market without any doubt.
However, listing on some bigger exchanges was definitely possible back then but now we are left none.
jr. member
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Merit: 6
@Pffrt deepfan
In 2018, when the onion price reached $20, I once represented the team in the negotiation of large exchanges. I must clarify some facts: 1. The development team has not said that it is unwilling to pay the listing fees of large exchanges. 2 The listing fee required by the exchange at that time was very expensive, the price was about 3 million US dollars 3. Don't accept onion payment 4. Need to ensure that the price will not fall below the price before listing for a period of time.

If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!

If you think this is a promising project, you should support the development of the project together with the dev team. The goal of the dev team is long-term. The current market environment is not good. Short-term speculation cannot continue to promote long-term growth of deeponion.

airdrop2.0 will not bring any long-term investors, rather burn all

Thank you for mentioning these additional information.

To your points:

1. Nice that the Team was willing, but more important is the result than the willing.

2. Really all big exchanges requested listing fee of 3 million USD? And even if so, only the Dev fund was worth of more than 50 million USD at that time. Now, it's worth only around 150,000 USD so the result is that DeepOnion has neither good exchange nor funds to get listed.

3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.

4. No coin can 100% guarantee that the price won't go below the listing price. With such condition, no coin would be listed ever, does not make sense at all.

But listing on a big exchange was probably not the biggest mistake, considering the fact that DeepOnion did not manage to keep listed even on mid-sized exchange Kucoin due to low volumes. Bigger mistake is missing marketing which would bring new investors and traders creating both volume and price increase. Then the listing on some bigger exchange will become more relevant.

And I'd be happy to support the project, but tell me, what are the long-term goals? I don't see any of them defined in an updated roadmap.
sr. member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 322
If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!
Which exchange are you referring, can you share some more information? $3 million at the of DeepOnion ATH which mean BTC was maximum $17000 (I'm sure it was low). According to that the listing price was ~175 BTC. I can't see any of reputed exchanges to charge such huge amount to be listed in exchange while Binance charges the most of 150 BTC at maximum- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-exchanges-comparison-trade-fee-listing-fee-age-mobile-app-more-5079048
There are more exchanges other than Binance which can be referred as tier-1. However, exchange listing doesn't matter that much. We had Kucoin but being delisted from Kucoin was the worst which DEV team could hold on by introducing some trading competition etc etc.
And you said project is planning long term, any sign of that?

2: There is no clear completion time for the team's plan execution, which is very incomprehensible. Of course, everything will encounter problems, but there should also be a clear time schedule. Without a clear time schedule, is it a good dream for the holder?
Agree here, team should have come up with new roadmap to make some good progress of the project, of course the roadmap must be fulfilled on time.

DeepSend with 1000 ONION has been released. Do we have any targeted group of users, how are we reaching to them?
member
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Is it all going down the drain?

MOST LIKELY

Is the project a success?

MAYBE

Onion team needs to maybe create an onion exchange where there is no need of KYC and you cant track its users, then we can see ALL TIME HIGHs
sr. member
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Merit: 386
DeepOnion Your Utility Coin with Ultimate Privacy
DeepOnion V2.1.2 Release
Version 2.1.2 is a maintenance release with the following improvements:
  • Due to popular requests, the Deepsend sending limit is increased to 1 000 ONION.
  • Latest blockchain checkpoint up to block 1939000 is checked in Bitcoin blockchain and is verifiable in the wallet.
  • Latest pow and pos checkpoints.
  • Latest block lookup table which accelerates the blockchain processing.
  • Misc bug fixes.

 
This version is not mandatory upgrade, it is compatible with previous versions. However you are strongly recommended to upgrade to take advantage of the latest features and make the wallet more secure. Also you'll have to use the new version if you want to send more than 5 ONION with secured DeepSend feature.

DeepOnion-qt-2.1.2-DV.exe is registered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dg9D3ZvXoLk6Ysw5SG8VVMiMDqXmWvEbjt.

Virus-scan Reports (on QT file), v2.1.2.0-2589f83fb (DV):
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/a326b626b3606748f30b920f2d705e294566078d0873cf55c784012871a096f9/detection (VirusTotal)

Also now all checkins will subject to automatic tavis tests which ensures our ongoing development code quality.

DeepSend wallet for Windows V 2.1.2 with DeepVault
https://deeponion.org/DeepOnion.zip
https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion/releases/download/v2.1.2/DeepOnion-2.1.2-DV-Qt-Windows.zip

DeepSend wallet QT only V 2.1.2
https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion/releases/download/v2.1.2/DeepOnion-2.1.2-Qt-Windows.zip

MAC/OSX DeepSend wallet V 2.1.2
https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion/releases/download/v2.1.2/DeepOnion-Qt-DV-v2.1.2.dmg
Registered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dix4r1CHMKXHYxRrrPjQiDXRCBWyDRdKTe.

Linux DeepSend without DV V 2.1.2
Registered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dix4r1CHMKXHYxRrrPjQiDXRCBWyDRdKTe.



Use DeepOnion DeepSend​

Did you know the fact that bitcoin coin transfers are visible to some unwanted parties?

This can cause a headache for you. To solve this problem, many insecure and centralized mixer services started to appear online and they can cost you money and put you at risk.

Despite all the risk some of the privacy-sensitive users already using these insecure and inconvenient mixer services because there is no better option.


A DeepSend transaction can help you prepare for the worst.

If you ever need to send someone money anonymously, DeepSend will allow you to make a completely private transaction in less than 2 minutes with guaranteed security.


Here DeepOnion dev team brought the solution: DeepSend

Now with DeepSend, you can make unstoppable and secure transfers hidden from the blockchain.

DeepSend is an advanced decentralized trust-less system and we make private transactions easy. You can create a safe and private transaction with little effort.

Boost Your Transfer Security with DeepOnion DeepSend today and become the Edward Snowden of blockchain with the all-new DeepSend privacy feature.

Did you know?
You can earn DeepSend Rewards Simply holding a DeepSend node

Increase your reward chance add your node to our node list!
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/deepsend-node-owners-thread-2500-onion.43959/ (DeepSend Node Owners Thread 2500 ONION)

When sending ONION select DeepSend option in the wallet.

DeepSend Guide
https://deeponion.org/community/support-tickets/knowledge-base/deepsend-guide.169/ (DeepSend Guide | DeepOnion Forum)

If you want to be able to run a DeepSend node (to be a mixer or guarantor) You need to add conf file this line and restart wallet

Code:
deepsendnode=1 

After adding new directive to conf file, any wallet satisfying the DeepSend conditions (a. at least 2 wallet addresses, b. >= 2500 ONIONs in balance and c. your wallet is unlocked for DeepSend), can participate as the service nodes in DeepSend network.[/size]

DeepSync needed extra tests will come as patch release. It's not included in this release.
jr. member
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@Mo

I started buying ONION in 2018. Before kucoin was delisted, I think this coin is still promising. However, some recent events have forced me to reconsider ONION coins:

1: The technical team has been slow to respond to the balance problem in the customer’s wallet. Many customers have encountered the problem of a sudden reduction in the balance during the POS process. I have reflected in the community many times and also helped other holders to provide solutions, but the team When I saw these problems, there was no slight explanation and improvement. The numbness of the team made me feel incredible.

2: There is no clear completion time for the team's plan execution, which is very incomprehensible. Of course, everything will encounter problems, but there should also be a clear time schedule. Without a clear time schedule, is it a good dream for the holder?

3: Many votes in the community are meaningless. For example, the limit of DeepSend does not have a limit of 100 coins at all. Finally, it was decided to use a limit of 100 coins. The reason is that there are not enough nodes. If so, everyone What is the significance of voting? Simply decided by yourself.You can see if there are options for 100 coins in the polled posts. No one knows how to decide the limit.
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/new-deepsend-limit-discussion-vote-poll.43681/page-4#post-670456

4: After the recent attack, DeepVault’s domain name should also be adjusted. In fact, the loss of domain name management rights indicates that the team has a problem with the DNS information settings and ignores the necessary information settings. Otherwise, even if it is attacked, the domain name will not be Lost.
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/good-news-deepvaultonline-com-is-back.43932/

5: Encourage holders to store at high risk, ONION's pos rate is 1%, how to have such a high return on interest deposits, it is doubtful that the team should not encourage it.
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/mycointainer-a-new-automatic-staking-and-masternode-staking-platform-for-onion.43916/

6: Don't negate programmers who have left the team, no matter who left the team, you should affirm his efforts, not attack. Not to mention his remuneration, this is a basic quality.
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/onion-btc-btc-dominance-ta-6-8-2020.43886/#post-670952
mo
legendary
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@Pffrt deepfan
In 2018, when the onion price reached $20, I once represented the team in the negotiation of large exchanges. I must clarify some facts: 1. The development team has not said that it is unwilling to pay the listing fees of large exchanges. 2 The listing fee required by the exchange at that time was very expensive, the price was about 3 million US dollars 3. Don't accept onion payment 4. Need to ensure that the price will not fall below the price before listing for a period of time.

If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!

If you think this is a promising project, you should support the development of the project together with the dev team. The goal of the dev team is long-term. The current market environment is not good. Short-term speculation cannot continue to promote long-term growth of deeponion.

airdrop2.0 will not bring any long-term investors, rather burn all
sr. member
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You have the key and the right place to open the doors for your prosperity. I really like to see the evolutionary process and I admire the consequences of that. The onion represents each layer of transformation.


Privacy is one of the main aspects of a good investment...
sr. member
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I would keep potential airdrop 2.0 as the last chance for recovery if everything fails, together with the recently discussed rebranding. Currently, there are many other things to do.
From airdrop, we the earlier investor will get benefit like we can dump the wallet if the price increase due to the airdrop. But that short term price pump will leave the project with zero investor which will certainly not be a good deal I think.

People trying to compare our project that was raised from zero and no crowdfunding to other ones with ICO/IEO/"insert any other way to take money from people", are just delusional.
Aren't you Vaas from the forum? I used to know you as serious guy, I had respect for you always and to be honest, the respect level once again have increased since you have responsed here, may be this is the first in engaging with the community. I appreciate your response here.
ICO projects and DeepOnion are very different from outside but they are very similar and sometimes I would say the DeepOnion launching model was worst. You can call me a FUDDER. Well, I have invested a lot in the projects. It's up to you whatever you think about me.
DeepOnion has used a fake demand creation system to hype the price. In normal pump and dump coins, a group of people pump the coins while DeepOnion has created an airdrop where more ONION = More reward = More demand on the market = Price get pumped. I don't want to talk about who sold how much or who have done what. Calling it a project created from none is so vogus I would say. Dev team in reality have used to the community and the airdrop system to pump the price.
Now, leave the past and start working on future. What are doing which can create value for DeepOnion? To be honest, nothing. I don't know why there's no seriousness in the project development for real use case or some partnerships. You guys need to have a clear picture of what you are going to do, where you are heading to but none of them exist in the project.
I believe there are few hundreds or even thousands of projects which are bad than DeepOnion but they are doing pretty well. Take verge as an example, look at their volume and compare with DeepOnion, it's nothing near to Verge. Check the other privacy coins and check their volume. Why DeepOnion is existing with such low volume? Why almost zero demand of DeepOnion? Come up with some solutions man. Check all the suggestion, try to achieve some of them. I'm not a FUDDER, I just care about my investment.
sr. member
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DeepOnion Your Utility Coin with Ultimate Privacy
Hi Team!

Mod team is currently testing new DeepOnion Wallet 2.1.2 release.
i'll have more news soon
stay tuned!

We have already 15+ Seeds and DeepSend nodes so DeepSend nodes will be available with the release.
jr. member
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1: There have been hundreds of thousands of ONION selling operations almost every month for 3 years, how can investors make money. At the following two addresses, you only need to look at the sent records and the received records and you will understand a lot.

DiAHgZzCPADrtAs4VCPN18zY4yVQRKf5Ut
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/onion/address.dws?DiAHgZzCPADrtAs4VCPN18zY4yVQRKf5Ut.htm

DZ32ieKEVY89HqUv5KNpAvHqJFBRiRYh5W
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/onion/address.dws?DZ32ieKEVY89HqUv5KNpAvHqJFBRiRYh5W.htm

2: The ONION team has been promoting the upcoming new features, but it has never seen the specific completion time, there is no time plan without any meaning. I can hardly understand their motivation to do so.
3: The price of ONION will be further reduced. It will even be lower than 100sats.

Well, there has been a lot of selling pressure recently, but that's not surprising. Because of missing fundaments and non-existing marketing, we can't expect significant buy pressure anytime soon. And Kucoin delisting made it even worse.

To your suspicion of some whale dumping ONION, both addresses were created in May 2018 and belong probably to the same entity and one of the biggest ONION whales. Transactions and balances on these addresses are very high, sometimes buying prevails, sometimes selling. Even though during last months selling is higher than buying, I would not overestimate impact of this whale on the ONION price in general. Reasons for it are much deeper.

The main distribution is over. There is a lot of people who invested, people who are actually supporting the cryptocurrency and would be really bad if we increase the circulation supply in such way.
People trying to compare our project that was raised from zero and no crowdfunding to other ones with ICO/IEO/"insert any other way to take money from people", are just delusional.
This is a free market and people can buy or sell, if they feel like there is another investments that are better than ONION, they are free to do it... we had a lot of time discussing with people who wanted to trash all the hard work because ONION didn't move on the markets as they want, we will not engage into this.
To the people who wants to join, use and expand the project, they are welcome. In the mean time, there is developers that no matter the crisis, the tragic situation where we live right now... STILL working and making commits to our GitHub...

Partially agree, because it is always good to look at things from both sides. However, it is logical that DeepOnion is compared with other coins and some of them are ICOs etc, because it is still one cryptomarket. And again, don't forget extremely huge Dev and Bounty funds which were totally comparable to the amounts of money raised by many ICOs. The only difference is that ICO projects have these funds either in USD or at least in ETH or BTC so they keep its value much better than funds held in ONION.

And yes, all effort is highly appreciated, however, it is done in a very chaotic way. As mentioned many times and by far not only by me, there is no vision, no strategy, no roadmap. You don't need any huge funds to create this so where is the problem?
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I know things will get better for DeepOnion, just takes time.   Smiley


Verify above image with DeepVault:
Ds7A9wevsveU5p5pWc7EfsqWCYLipnBfzr
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Vaas DeepOnion Moderator
The main distribution is over. There is a lot of people who invested, people who are actually supporting the cryptocurrency and would be really bad if we increase the circulation supply in such way.
People trying to compare our project that was raised from zero and no crowdfunding to other ones with ICO/IEO/"insert any other way to take money from people", are just delusional.
This is a free market and people can buy or sell, if they feel like there is another investments that are better than ONION, they are free to do it... we had a lot of time discussing with people who wanted to trash all the hard work because ONION didn't move on the markets as they want, we will not engage into this.
To the people who wants to join, use and expand the project, they are welcome. In the mean time, there is developers that no matter the crisis, the tragic situation where we live right now... STILL working and making commits to our GitHub...

jr. member
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Unfortunately, no advantage of this was taken.
Because our dev couldn't bear with the criticism they had from the community. Despite they had ban a lot of users for small issues which shut all the mouths. We could have done a lot of steps at that time.

Yes, first half of 2018 was the key period for investments as DeepOnion had huge funds. Now, it will be much more difficult. Also at that time, the community was so passionate and motivated, most of them criticised just because they cared and wanted the project to become better and not to harm it. And of course, many of them saw the obvious mistakes.

But I don't want to discuss the past so much, we should rather look to the future. I'm just reminding all these things, because I'm not convinced that the Team learnt any lesson from this. If not, DeepOnion will continue to go to DeepSh*t.

Soon it's going to be time for airdrop 2.0 .... The second harvest is coming. The world wants it
Would that be good? It will create short term hype which I think will not bring any potential investors. Would be better if team works with targeting a goal. There are a lot of things have been suggested by the community. I think dev should work accordingly.

I would keep potential airdrop 2.0 as the last chance for recovery if everything fails, together with the recently discussed rebranding. Currently, there are many other things to do.
sr. member
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Soon it's going to be time for airdrop 2.0 .... The second harvest is coming. The world wants it
Would that be good? It will create short term hype which I think will not bring any potential investors. Would be better if team works with targeting a goal. There are a lot of things have been suggested by the community. I think dev should work accordingly.
sr. member
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DeepOnion Your Utility Coin with Ultimate Privacy
DeepOnion DeepSync is coming soon.

You can sync your wallet faster than all others!

Watch the first actual video with DeepSync
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdZ1pA1yfbQ

While others sync in days
You can sync in just few minutes (depends on internet speed)!
 
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Soon it's going to be time for airdrop 2.0 .... The second harvest is coming. The world wants it
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