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actually they may created a illegal gambling site as extension if the taxes will be as high that they cannot expected.

I don't think they would do that.

They would continue to offer their services to these gamblers and at the same time, follow the policies needed or required by the government. I think instead of the owners avoiding that huge taxes, I guess it would be the people that would do that. They've been taking care of these gamblers for so long and I don't think they would risk that for avoiding those taxes.
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actually they may created a illegal gambling site as extension if the taxes will be as high that they cannot expected.
Illegal? There's no reason to have the other one licensed if they will have an extension which is illegal, being a legal casino, they know the risk and how big the penalty that they will pay, actually it's better to just choose one, either you want to run a legal or illegal casino.
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What do you think ?
Is this essential? Would it affect the online casinos?
 

If we're going to think that it's for a good cause then the answer is Yes, it is essential.
it is surely for a good cause mate because it was mentioned that will Help the Covid victims.

Casinos pays a huge tax to the Government no matter how big or small their bankroll is, that's why if your online gambling site are not making that huge of a bankroll, it's better to shut it down or you'll be arrested by the police. Because if you insisted to regulate your online gambling business by the Government, then you'll be losing your profits and it'll all go to the tax you're going to pay.
actually regulating gambling sites is depend in which country you are operating thats so it will be a matter of obligation and helping hand.
The ones that's gonna remain are those big time online gambling sites in Europe. Surely it'll help their country and citizens if their Government will not steal the money (fingers crossed)
actually they may created a illegal gambling site as extension if the taxes will be as high that they cannot expected.
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I don't think this is justifiable, at least not in the case of pandemic! The same governments created the entire mess with their actions (locking down, forcing people to stay home...) and now they wish to make money on someone else's back?!
Maybe I live in fucked-up country where I developed my distrust to any kind of government, and I know that tax money is not going back to the people and developing of the country, it goes straight in the pockets of powerful! Just to be clear about one thing, I am not against the tax if it's used in the right way, but if the tax is the robbery than I can't support that!
My statement was generalized, and I can sympathize with you because the corruption is prevalent here in my country too (Well, most third-world country are corrupt anyway). If the government is not corrupt then I think that imposing taxes on gambling online or physical is a good thing. The sad thing is no matter how much we disagree with the government in regards to taxes, they will still do any means necessary because they are the biggest corporations in the nation, veiled by the pretense of running the country.
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It will not affect the online casino since they only need to pay for the taxes. Their profit will be affected by it and I think that the taxes that an online casino tax should be given to those who are poor. In that way, the casino and gamblers can help those people who are in need of help.
If corruption exists in a country where gambling would be regulated, taxation won't be that much of a help in order to aid economic problems. It will just be thrown in the pockets of those who are regulating gambling industry. The idea is already there, which is to help, but that won't be enough if the one leading this action is not dedicated to his actions. In our country, there's this taxation of 5% in franchise and 50%in the total winnings. It is said that the tax will go to projects such as civic and infrastructure projects but that's not happening. Roads are still damaged, establishments are mostly owned by private sectors. Public establishments are only limited. Why not just say we want the money and just do your thing? Kidding aside, as I've said, the though is already there.
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This was in large part due to the fact that my state is broke. It will and has certainly gained valuable revenue and tax dollars for the state as well as helped cut down on people going to scam casinos online.

They can certainly use my state as a case study.

Their are pros and cons on this subject if you are living in a country that needs additional revenue and you see that the site you're playing can contribute and the government wants to impose additional taxes I can understand that, I'm living in a country where we badly need more source of revenues I can do away with KYC as long as my government can protect me from getting scam and mediate on issues where I'm playing, but not all gamblers will agree with my opinion..

This is very tricky issue. Many countries have found themselves in deep crisis due to the covid pandemic and they desperately need money. However, I don't think that additional taxes for gambling sites could be the answer to that. Such funds will not be enough and gamblers might opose to that looking for illegal gambling sites which might lead to another type of problems. I don't think that any state could be saved with gambling money.
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This was in large part due to the fact that my state is broke. It will and has certainly gained valuable revenue and tax dollars for the state as well as helped cut down on people going to scam casinos online.

They can certainly use my state as a case study.

Their are pros and cons on this subject if you are living in a country that needs additional revenue and you see that the site you're playing can contribute and the government wants to impose additional taxes I can understand that, I'm living in a country where we badly need more source of revenues I can do away with KYC as long as my government can protect me from getting scam and mediate on issues where I'm playing, but not all gamblers will agree with my opinion..

The fact that the government will regulate a gambling site, that also means protection from scammers, but it doesn't really mean that you are not going to be scam as though a casino is already regulated and they know the crime they will commit if they will scam, some would still do it.
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This was in large part due to the fact that my state is broke. It will and has certainly gained valuable revenue and tax dollars for the state as well as helped cut down on people going to scam casinos online.

They can certainly use my state as a case study.

Their are pros and cons on this subject if you are living in a country that needs additional revenue and you see that the site you're playing can contribute and the government wants to impose additional taxes I can understand that, I'm living in a country where we badly need more source of revenues I can do away with KYC as long as my government can protect me from getting scam and mediate on issues where I'm playing, but not all gamblers will agree with my opinion..
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What do you think ?
Is this essential? Would it affect the online casinos?
 

If we're going to think that it's for a good cause then the answer is Yes, it is essential. Casinos pays a huge tax to the Government no matter how big or small their bankroll is, that's why if your online gambling site are not making that huge of a bankroll, it's better to shut it down or you'll be arrested by the police. Because if you insisted to regulate your online gambling business by the Government, then you'll be losing your profits and it'll all go to the tax you're going to pay.

The ones that's gonna remain are those big time online gambling sites in Europe. Surely it'll help their country and citizens if their Government will not steal the money (fingers crossed)
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It is essential for the government because they will get more profit from that, the government is always looking for some ways to earn money and they see online gambling may help for the pandemic virus, even though their intention is good, there are still benefits from them becuzs eof having hidden charges mentioned above.
Just ironic though, governments are blaming gambling because they said that it is harmful specially if someone becomes an addict.
Not all because some casino gambling is owned by the government and it is one of their way to gain more profit so they wouldn't blame it at all and besides it depends on the person if he or she is going to be addicted or not, it is in the proper control and good mindset.
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I totally support the government action towards this matter because at least funds will be taken from those casino operators and companies that bagging tons of money from gamblers and pays small amount of taxes.
and besides this is to help people that In need specially this pandemic time that we already knew about How European countries suffers a lot and needed funds to support their people.
in some manners at least the government is seeking for Legit way of taxation and not just suck implementation .
I think there are still many offline and online gambling places that don't provide tax properly and correctly because the government is still difficult to collect taxes at gambling places, because not everyone can get a lot of wins and what will happen if the gambler loses a very large amount much do they have to pay taxes because usually when companies are asked for taxes they will give additional taxes to their customers, because I am sure the owners of gambling places do not want to lose because of taxes.
That is the point why i support this European Government action towards this taxation from gambling operators.
Because the only winner in gambling is the owner and management and players just always give their money in casinos.

I hope this will be implemented in the whole world as everyone is struggling against Covid while gambling operators are contiuously gathering and bagging Money from people.

and also those Illegal gambling must be take down and pays for their obligation since they start to operate.
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If online gambling starts to regulate by the government, so they could have funds to support their COVID problem is an excellent idea because hospitals will not worry about treating their COVID patients. But not for everybody, especially for online gamblers, because it might increase its fees. There are chances for players to limit themselves from playing because they need to save money not to pay expensive fees.

Or make them find another way to avoid this.

People won't just stop doing things just because they needed to pay for it, they would find a way to keep on gambling without that fees and that just means gambling on another site that is not regulated by the government. These sites are just following the government policies, and I agree with you that this is just for the own good of their country and its people.
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If from direct gambling sites, there are rarely foundations or even communities that want to accommodate the results of gambling sites, but there are ways to outsmart things like this, namely by setting aside a portion of the profit from the betting proceeds donated to certain foundations, if the individual who gives it will definitely be many foundations that will receive assistance despite the actual results of gambling. Especially during a pandemic like this, many have difficulty finding income, as well as the government who has difficulty how to prevent Covid 19 from ending soon. But with the help of each other, we can quickly relieve the victims of Covid 19 and restore the nation's economy to return to stability and normalcy.
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This is an interesting topic and I think you've got a very good use case in the one over in the United States.  I live in the state of Illinois and just recently ( Jan 1) laws went in to effect legalizing gambling.  It legalized gambling across a broad spectrum of types of gambling such as online, in person etc.  This was in large part due to the fact that my state is broke. It will and has certainly gained valuable revenue and tax dollars for the state as well as helped cut down on people going to scam casinos online.

They can certainly use my state as a case study.
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Of course, imposing taxes on online casinos is very important for the government, especially in a situation like now where the country
needs a lot of income. And through the online casino the government can get quite a lot of money, considering that the circulation of
money in the online casino is very large. But for gamblers this is a threat to their privacy, because there is a possibility that online casinos
will eventually impose KYC.

One of the few businesses that survive when the whole world shut down. Actually, instead of reducing their number, online casinos thrive during this crisis. In this forum alone, a lot of new casinos were born and introduced during that period. But it only depends on the government how they can monetize these online casinos that are operating within their area of responsibility. Because a lot of them are licensed outside their jurisdiction.
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Of course, imposing taxes on online casinos is very important for the government, especially in a situation like now where the country
needs a lot of income. And through the online casino the government can get quite a lot of money, considering that the circulation of
money in the online casino is very large. But for gamblers this is a threat to their privacy, because there is a possibility that online casinos
will eventually impose KYC.
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I don't know if it has been shared or not , but Europe is considering to tighten the laws of Gambling especially the online ones. They want to **regulate** it , which actually means that they want these online gambling casinos to pay up the government somehow.

You answered it already. They don't want to help in anyway they just want the money.

I see only cons of this. More corruption because casinos who don't pay the government could be closed which will limit the competition on the market and those that will pay will have to make it back somehow.

The government will get its money, casinos will increase fees to get you to cover the loss, dark web casinos will still operate without licenses, some will go bankrupt and some will have to move to other countries. Nothing will change for the better.
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What do you think ?
Is this essential? Would it affect the online casinos?
 

In my opinion, The disadvantages of such a move outweighs the benefits. One of the biggest reasons why people choose crypto gambling platforms as their de facto choice for  gambling is because they can engage in an activity like that while still maintaining their privacy. If that's gone, Not sure there would be enough reasons to stick with them anymore. However, if casinos and other gambling sites don't request KYC/AML verification, then privacy won't be compromised.

Either way, i don't like the idea even though it might checkmark illegal/spam platforms but it does more harm than good to the crypto gambling space.
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It will not affect the online casino since they only need to pay for the taxes. Their profit will be affected by it and I think that the taxes that an online casino tax should be given to those who are poor. In that way, the casino and gamblers can help those people who are in need of help.
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There is some logic behind it and despite the fact that I have been in touch with b2b service providers and was working in online casinos, I have to say that it's not really a bad idea. During pandemic and lockdowns, there was an enormous rise in traffic. It was great for business but it was an indicator that people were spending too much money on casinos. I think most of them wouldn't be very rich, so money was very necessary during this lockdown because you are in stuck, no work and no income. Yeah, people may need entertainment but at the same time we have to consider reality and it's that people can't have much control over themselves when it comes to gambling. For this, we started an active campaign for responsible gambling and I think we played our role in it to inform players and help them to spend less money.

But limitations that Germany sets is very tough, we need moderate control, we shouldn't kill this segment and have to consider that a lot of people work there too and they have their families, they need money.
Another deal to my mind can be if governments increase taxes for a while and use those funds to help people who really need during this covid. I know it sounds like a terrible idea but I believe it's not that bad for a limited time. Here it will be like: Money from those who have a lot goes to those who don't have and need it.

I am with that concept of getting money from those who can afford and give it back to those badly need it.
If they are still gambling despite of the situation, that means most of them can afford to allocate funds for gambling, right?
I don't think a responsible family man will take the risk of sending his money (supposedly for his family's food) to the online casino.
As a gambler, you know the risks involved in these games. So you should not expect that you will win afterwards.
So yes, why not get the tax from these online casinos and give their fair share as they can continuously operate even during this pandemic.
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