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As long as they don't make rules where gambler will be arrested or casino owner will be arrested and must pay big fine, there's no way people would stop gambling at all.
Also, they must block all gambling sites and block services such as VPS, proxy, tor or i2p to prevent anyone to visit gambling website or other restricted website as well.

I dont think they can block such services because there are many paid services where people can buy the services. If they want to stop online gambling, the only effective way is to block all internet service providers in their country. Of course there will be many side effects of it.

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In many parts on the world gambling is banned or illegal but still people are keep gambling. In modern era of technology is also impossible for states to have full control over internet. People use Bitcoin as alternative of fiat and VPN services to by pass the states servers to have access to online gambling sites. I see this useless efforts by Philippines government.

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Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

I see the you have made the "cannot collect tax from it" bold. It's almost as if you disregarded the other reason "they don't want people to become addicted to it." I can't blame you, though. Our nature is to only look at the negative part of things not just in this situation but in life in general.

People have looked down on Mayor Duterte (yes, it's what people call him even if it's his a President now) because of his "bad" behaviors shown by the biased media. People still resent him much more when they found out that he won the election. Anyway, I'm just giving people from other countries how people think of our new president as a "bad guy" and they can't see how much Mayor Duterte has changed our country in days. Take note, in days.

Anyway, OP didn't include a source or something. I always watch the news and haven't heard of this so I think it's not true. If the real reason is because they "can't collect tax from it" then sure as hell they will ban the use of bitcoin as well. Oh well, we can easily use a VPN to access these things.

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Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

Absolutely right he is doing in my opinion, well you see the threads here which say how dangerous gambling is and how difficult is to stop gambling once fell with its addiction. I am with yes.

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 08, 2016, 03:19:37 PM

The government can collect tax from online gambling by allowing only licensed online gambling websites to operate in that jurisdiction. By licensed casinos and sportsbooks I mean companies that pay the government cash to allow them to do business in the country. It's a common practice around the world and to be honest no one cares if the people will get addicted or not it's about collecting taxes on the gambling profits that's all.

Why do you think that these casinos move their licensing to other countries that those governments have no arm's reach in. Like dominican republlic or Puerto Rico. They don't care for American laws even though they take in imports from them Roll Eyes

They only care for the money that they are raking in and it is alot of American dollars that they are whoring themselves over from these so called illegal gambling practices. Tongue

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Quote from: outatime1 on July 08, 2016, 12:31:49 PM

I think they should allow it, but how are they going to know if people are gambling online? Are they going to block gambling websites? If not, then how do they know who is gambling if it is done with cryptocurrencies?

They can't. Its like an unwritten rule. They have no one to enforce it and have other things to worry about like actual crime. If they could they would stop btc all together because they want the tax for it. Btc stands for everything the government is opposed to. That's why they doing this. Just scare tactics.

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The government can collect tax from online gambling by allowing only licensed online gambling websites to operate in that jurisdiction. By licensed casinos and sportsbooks I mean companies that pay the government cash to allow them to do business in the country. It's a common practice around the world and to be honest no one cares if the people will get addicted or not it's about collecting taxes on the gambling profits that's all.

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Quote from: Cereberus on July 08, 2016, 11:53:13 AM

Well online gambling is illegal in the United states but you still see people from there using those sites. Just because they say it is banned doesn't mean people won't still use those sites. Come on now! Angry

It is the internet after all. Unless they get smart and block all the sites from the country just like China has with google at a time before. Roll Eyes

Lol i never knew that online gambling is really forbidden in the U.S,but thank's a lot Cerberus,now i know thanks to you!
Actually i would never though that U.S would implement something stupid like that but well... what can i do Sad

Not all states though.
US law will actually find these individuals same thing as how they find those who download stuff illegally as far as i know.
This is why you see users here are using VPN to conceal their IPs to which they can be traced as to where they are from.

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Quote from: Cereberus on July 08, 2016, 11:53:13 AM

Well online gambling is illegal in the United states but you still see people from there using those sites. Just because they say it is banned doesn't mean people won't still use those sites. Come on now! Angry

It is the internet after all. Unless they get smart and block all the sites from the country just like China has with google at a time before. Roll Eyes

Lol i never knew that online gambling is really forbidden in the U.S,but thank's a lot Cerberus,now i know thanks to you!
Actually i would never though that U.S would implement something stupid like that but well... what can i do Sad

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Quote from: Cereberus on July 08, 2016, 11:53:13 AM

Well online gambling is illegal in the United states but you still see people from there using those sites. Just because they say it is banned doesn't mean people won't still use those sites. Come on now! Angry

It is the internet after all. Unless they get smart and block all the sites from the country just like China has with google at a time before. Roll Eyes

Thank God for that ^^ I wouldn't wanna live in a world where we can't do anything because everything is banned to "protect us" and everything is controlled. Good thing this is not the case and not everything can be controlled so yes that doesn't stop people. The government can't really control everything we do. Just because something is banned or is a law doesn't mean its enforced. Just on paper its breaking the law but in practice it doesn't work quite like that.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 08, 2016, 12:49:21 PM

Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

As what i have heard, this drive have nothing to do with gambling based outside the Philippines. They are only after the online gambling that were based locally and are not regulated by PAGCOR. Basicaly, this drive is to trimdown competition as we all know, PAGCOR is a gambling department itself and was not ordered to shutdown. So if President Duterte is really serious on stopping gambling , they shoud and must shutdown PAGCOR's online betting sites and then dismantle PAGCOR itself.

Its where they get funds to cure the gambling addict as well so not possible. Shocked

The funds for the free hospitalization and 911 are from Philippine sweepstakes too so that at least they know where the money goes. For online gambling, its totally different and for all we know ~~the money goes to the pocket of General Garbo~~.

don't quote that.

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Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

As what i have heard, this drive have nothing to do with gambling based outside the Philippines. They are only after the online gambling that were based locally and are not regulated by PAGCOR. Basicaly, this drive is to trimdown competition as we all know, PAGCOR is a gambling department itself and was not ordered to shutdown. So if President Duterte is really serious on stopping gambling , they shoud and must shutdown PAGCOR's online betting sites and then dismantle PAGCOR itself.

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Quote from: outatime1 on July 08, 2016, 12:31:49 PM

I think they should allow it, but how are they going to know if people are gambling online? Are they going to block gambling websites? If not, then how do they know who is gambling if it is done with cryptocurrencies?

Thats their problem its not our problem honestly even they are banned those sites we can still gamble there and we can use vpn to bypass..
So they can not prevent filipinos if they want to gamble online..

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Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

Hahaha so many countries want to ban online gambling.
So many governement and politcs are mad because they cannot take tax out of it,but if they would legalize marijuana and take tax out of it,they probably would earn like 2x time more than taxing online gambling.
Logic...

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I think they should allow it, but how are they going to know if people are gambling online? Are they going to block gambling websites? If not, then how do they know who is gambling if it is done with cryptocurrencies?

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Quote from: LucioTan on July 08, 2016, 11:40:09 AM

Quote from: cpfreeplz on July 07, 2016, 12:10:10 PM

I think this should be a law in every country. People get wayyyy too addicted. With normal gambling you can at least stay away from the casinos but if it's online you could just play 24/7 and never ever stop until you're out of money. I think it's for the best. Gambling seems to be a huge sickness in the bitcoin community.

Gambling should be banned all over the world. It causes many disadvantages such as stealing, scamming and other because of gambling. The president did the right decision in banning it in Philippines. Of course, many will lost their jobs to those who are working in online gambling sites. We cannot deny the fact that for every decisions, there are pros and cons. Maybe he should provide some help or job offers to those affected by its ordinance.

Holy shit! ^ Now that I can believe! Coming from someone who were accused of scamming someone too, i bet you learned that first hand experienced. right on brother! And i guess you never got into gambling because you're sticking to what you do best like doubler right?

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Well online gambling is illegal in the United states but you still see people from there using those sites. Just because they say it is banned doesn't mean people won't still use those sites. Come on now! Angry

It is the internet after all. Unless they get smart and block all the sites from the country just like China has with google at a time before. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: cpfreeplz on July 07, 2016, 12:10:10 PM

I think this should be a law in every country. People get wayyyy too addicted. With normal gambling you can at least stay away from the casinos but if it's online you could just play 24/7 and never ever stop until you're out of money. I think it's for the best. Gambling seems to be a huge sickness in the bitcoin community.

Gambling should be banned all over the world. It causes many disadvantages such as stealing, scamming and other because of gambling. The president did the right decision in banning it in Philippines. Of course, many will lost their jobs to those who are working in online gambling sites. We cannot deny the fact that for every decisions, there are pros and cons. Maybe he should provide some help or job offers to those affected by its ordinance.

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Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

I heard the news, This will not happen because they will not be able to control everyone from accessing the internet.But if this will really be implement. We can use Proxy changer, Ip changer or VPN to have access or to be able to gamble again.

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Quote from: JasonXG on July 07, 2016, 11:25:42 AM

Quote from: Mark02 on July 07, 2016, 06:54:37 AM

The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?

In think its because they can't collect tax from it. People are greedy and everyone wants a slice of the pie. I believe people should have the freedom to make their own mistakes and not be dictated over like some child.

Yes Indeed ! If they really want to stop gambling in our country then they should close all the Casinos out here. But they cant, because Casinos generate a high amount of tax. Which they value the most. Many people lost their money in casinos than online gambling. The point is, they cannot collect proper taxes from online gambling and many gamblers tend to gamble online because there is a higher chance of winning in online gambling than in the Casinos.

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