due to the lack of serious interest, I'm refunding payments and closing this thread...
it was worth a try, but this isn't going to work. sorry folks!!
Topic: [OPEN] Hash Fast pre-order units mining shares 4Th/s 3936/4000 shares available (Read 5273 times)
August 10, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
August 10, 2013, 01:34:19 PM
geosac; 3; 0.45; 0ea09f8fc9c7e0f898e9729c0057eeb7fcfcc7b78848ef41c7dca3d9d04caafa; 1E9vjjCMByCUmKHx4g8MSq421giReFi3t7; 1E9vjjCMByCUmKHx4g8MSq421giReFi3t7
August 10, 2013, 10:54:11 AM
czspeedycz; 35; 5.25; 2d2e229df9398eb3cbb0b31368852430488564a1eb24df3218dabc9d81f8ee6e; 161pjNJ7jfUkJcAEB8sg26Na868FxzTxmA; 161pjNJ7jfUkJcAEB8sg26Na868FxzTxmA
Thanks
Thanks
August 10, 2013, 07:59:59 AM
It's not a scam! Btw nice avatar
thanks
but they promised to deliver at 20 october... but if they ship any of miners before 31 dec you cannot refund
August 10, 2013, 07:34:53 AM
gorkab ; 5 ; 0.75 ; 5c212111f9ea59fc213631cc726f1a6b29e70f66bf707370cc0350f482292b53 ; 1EGfgJRnD8qfbhx5uhWLdUiz9EzCeTLwL1 ; 1EGfgJRnD8qfbhx5uhWLdUiz9EzCeTLwL1
Thanks
Thanks
August 10, 2013, 02:11:29 AM
It's not a scam! Btw nice avatar
August 09, 2013, 04:05:26 PM
Hi Canary,
Here's my 2cents:
Worldly; 2 shares; .3BTC; d38aa0c09ab5318610516d3e83eb5becb8c0559581eafc09049b01f2c63eb9d5; 18XgMHvg5yHaea6Ft3hPoiLkwEQ7k4TNxv; 18XgMHvg5yHaea6Ft3hPoiLkwEQ7k4TNxv
Thanks!
Here's my 2cents:
Worldly; 2 shares; .3BTC; d38aa0c09ab5318610516d3e83eb5becb8c0559581eafc09049b01f2c63eb9d5; 18XgMHvg5yHaea6Ft3hPoiLkwEQ7k4TNxv; 18XgMHvg5yHaea6Ft3hPoiLkwEQ7k4TNxv
Thanks!
August 09, 2013, 01:49:27 PM
addzz; 2; .3; 65928b979f8afd4b9f295bcfc92e5c72ff8c1bcbf17853abe9bff473b6cd842f; 1BSfrqY825m7V77Tn58mfpQvXksBYtndLj; 19PBLD6yspVMCjZi4FUh7LkeatReB6mWL
August 09, 2013, 11:55:59 AM
I'll be in for at least a few shares.
August 09, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
I'll nibble... 2 shares purchased for a starter position.
2 shares; 0.30 BTC; ae38420c0b103bd17a759c396a37cd95926ef5c21efa27079c7ec12125db0fe2; 1HN9jKX5b7ptyyUXMuTkrheRwYPCPnHmGK;
1HN9jKX5b7ptyyUXMuTkrheRwYPCPnHmGK
2 shares; 0.30 BTC; ae38420c0b103bd17a759c396a37cd95926ef5c21efa27079c7ec12125db0fe2; 1HN9jKX5b7ptyyUXMuTkrheRwYPCPnHmGK;
1HN9jKX5b7ptyyUXMuTkrheRwYPCPnHmGK
August 09, 2013, 10:41:14 AM
August 09, 2013, 10:34:47 AM
nubbins; 15; 2.25; f1f298602aad33add80cf1ec8a32e3505d35ee88d84573c4809a5c3fceeb0d9e; 1MLupEjeR9zw5gaJKrhh8PovG8hH1Wgsn1; 18SfgVArcEW7YeTyF9e6fuprRBdgTj1vmR
August 09, 2013, 09:40:38 AM
Please post your calculations.
Estimated mining power by October:
Minimum: 100TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 300TH Avalon chips + 200TH Bitfury + 300TH BFL = 1PH
Realistic: 300TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 500TH Avalon chips + 500TH Bitfury + 1PH BFL + 500TH KNC = 3PH (actually up to 5 or 6 with all upcoming hardware)
Revenue per GH per day: from 1 to 4 mBTC
Lifetime revenue:
The very best case (totally unrealistic) scenario: 1PH by October and 10x growth per year after that: 0.6 BTC/GH
Much more realistic case: 3PH by October and 100x growth per year after that: 0.1 BTC/GH
The worst case: 6PH by October and 1000x growth per year after that: 0.03 BTC/GH
fantastic and thanks!
How does someone new to BTC with an Investment say on a scale of 20-999 GH/s make sense of it so they can make wise Investment choices in the GH/s market.
Don't want to derail Canary's thread too much, conversation in regards to this is happening over in speculation:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/useless-asics-270200
OK good.
Though I'm seriously considering this GB...
August 09, 2013, 09:36:48 AM
How does someone new to BTC with an Investment say on a scale of 20-999 GH/s make sense of it so they can make wise Investment choices in the GH/s market.
My opinion is that currently mining powers are overpriced and mining market is over-saturated in sense that already ordered and paid powers costed more than all coins they will ever mine. I think that the right choice here is waiting until the next increase in price (say, to $500 per BTC), so you can order the hardware much cheaper (in BTC). Another option is betting against mining (look towards CB.IDIFF-O and DMS.SELLING securities at btct.co). Also, there are some promising mining-unrelated investment options like CoinLenders and Just-Dice.
August 09, 2013, 09:33:01 AM
Please post your calculations.
Estimated mining power by October:
Minimum: 100TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 300TH Avalon chips + 200TH Bitfury + 300TH BFL = 1PH
Realistic: 300TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 500TH Avalon chips + 500TH Bitfury + 1PH BFL + 500TH KNC = 3PH (actually up to 5 or 6 with all upcoming hardware)
Revenue per GH per day: from 1 to 4 mBTC
Lifetime revenue:
The very best case (totally unrealistic) scenario: 1PH by October and 10x growth per year after that: 0.6 BTC/GH
Much more realistic case: 3PH by October and 100x growth per year after that: 0.1 BTC/GH
The worst case: 6PH by October and 1000x growth per year after that: 0.03 BTC/GH
fantastic and thanks!
How does someone new to BTC with an Investment say on a scale of 20-999 GH/s make sense of it so they can make wise Investment choices in the GH/s market.
Don't want to derail Canary's thread too much, conversation in regards to this is happening over in speculation:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/useless-asics-270200
August 09, 2013, 09:18:11 AM
Please post your calculations.
Estimated mining power by October:
Minimum: 100TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 300TH Avalon chips + 200TH Bitfury + 300TH BFL = 1PH
Realistic: 300TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 500TH Avalon chips + 500TH Bitfury + 1PH BFL + 500TH KNC = 3PH (actually up to 5 or 6 with all upcoming hardware)
Revenue per GH per day: from 1 to 4 mBTC
Lifetime revenue:
The very best case (totally unrealistic) scenario: 1PH by October and 10x growth per year after that: 0.6 BTC/GH
Much more realistic case: 3PH by October and 100x growth per year after that: 0.1 BTC/GH
The worst case: 6PH by October and 1000x growth per year after that: 0.03 BTC/GH
fantastic and thanks!
How does someone new to BTC with an Investment say on a scale of 20-999 GH/s make sense of it so they can make wise Investment choices in the GH/s market.
August 09, 2013, 09:03:30 AM
Please post your calculations.
Estimated mining power by October:
Minimum: 100TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 300TH Avalon chips + 200TH Bitfury + 300TH BFL = 1PH
Realistic: 300TH AM + 100TH Avalon + 500TH Avalon chips + 500TH Bitfury + 1PH BFL + 500TH KNC = 3PH (actually up to 5 or 6 with all upcoming hardware)
Revenue per GH per day: from 1 to 4 mBTC
Lifetime revenue:
The very best case (totally unrealistic) scenario: 1PH by October and 10x growth per year after that: 0.6 BTC/GH
Much more realistic case: 3PH by October and 100x growth per year after that: 0.1 BTC/GH
The worst case: 6PH by October and 1000x growth per year after that: 0.03 BTC/GH
P.S. Conclusion: why would I ever fuck with mining? CoinLenders pay 25% APR, JustDice currently about 10% per month.
August 09, 2013, 07:27:48 AM
Can somebody please provide the calculations on this investment
showing ROI after Increased difficulty and October/Early November delivery?
showing ROI after Increased difficulty and October/Early November delivery?
I've been pondering the same thing. The question you have to ask yourself is what do you think the average rate of difficulty increase you expect to see? To me it seems that we are entering explosive difficulty growth. The next difficulty increase to hit looks to be about 30%. If that is sustained you are looking at 50-60% growth per month. While not perfect I found a good calculator I like to use. It would be nice if it did more than monthly difficulty increases but it's close enough for rough numbers.
You can find it here: btcinvest calculator
I plugged some numbers in and assuming 50% difficulty growth per month you would get about a 66% return on your .15 btc invested over one year. ROI would be achieved after nine weeks of hashing assuming it starts on November 1. So you are looking at ROI, with these assumptions, by January 1.
You can find the calculator with the parameters I used here: btcinvest assumptions.
The two major factors here are of course delivery time and difficulty.
I'm very tempted to jump in on this. I'll probably make a decision early next week but wouldn't be able to get funds for many days.
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
Wow. I didn't realize that the current 30 day average was 75%. It looked to me it was more in the 60% range. Anything north of 65% quickly becomes a money pit. Thanks for showing me that.
What changes this is BTC price.
IMO fair value is over 125USD per share and quickly becoming justified to hit the 200+ range.
Another way to look at it is get in get out with long term holding. I want to get back my capital as quickly as possible and then get as many bitcoins as possible from that investment. Lather, rinse, repeat. That of course doesn't work if you can't get it back out.
But I think we are now well off topic. This is the last I have to say on the matter.
August 09, 2013, 07:08:45 AM
Can somebody please provide the calculations on this investment
showing ROI after Increased difficulty and October/Early November delivery?
showing ROI after Increased difficulty and October/Early November delivery?
I've been pondering the same thing. The question you have to ask yourself is what do you think the average rate of difficulty increase you expect to see? To me it seems that we are entering explosive difficulty growth. The next difficulty increase to hit looks to be about 30%. If that is sustained you are looking at 50-60% growth per month. While not perfect I found a good calculator I like to use. It would be nice if it did more than monthly difficulty increases but it's close enough for rough numbers.
You can find it here: btcinvest calculator
I plugged some numbers in and assuming 50% difficulty growth per month you would get about a 66% return on your .15 btc invested over one year. ROI would be achieved after nine weeks of hashing assuming it starts on November 1. So you are looking at ROI, with these assumptions, by January 1.
You can find the calculator with the parameters I used here: btcinvest assumptions.
The two major factors here are of course delivery time and difficulty.
I'm very tempted to jump in on this. I'll probably make a decision early next week but wouldn't be able to get funds for many days.
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
Wow. I didn't realize that the current 30 day average was 75%. It looked to me it was more in the 60% range. Anything north of 65% quickly becomes a money pit. Thanks for showing me that.
What changes this is BTC price.
IMO fair value is over 125USD per share and quickly becoming justified to hit the 200+ range.
August 09, 2013, 06:58:03 AM
Can somebody please provide the calculations on this investment
showing ROI after Increased difficulty and October/Early November delivery?
showing ROI after Increased difficulty and October/Early November delivery?
I've been pondering the same thing. The question you have to ask yourself is what do you think the average rate of difficulty increase you expect to see? To me it seems that we are entering explosive difficulty growth. The next difficulty increase to hit looks to be about 30%. If that is sustained you are looking at 50-60% growth per month. While not perfect I found a good calculator I like to use. It would be nice if it did more than monthly difficulty increases but it's close enough for rough numbers.
You can find it here: btcinvest calculator
I plugged some numbers in and assuming 50% difficulty growth per month you would get about a 66% return on your .15 btc invested over one year. ROI would be achieved after nine weeks of hashing assuming it starts on November 1. So you are looking at ROI, with these assumptions, by January 1.
You can find the calculator with the parameters I used here: btcinvest assumptions.
The two major factors here are of course delivery time and difficulty.
I'm very tempted to jump in on this. I'll probably make a decision early next week but wouldn't be able to get funds for many days.
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
Wow. I didn't realize that the current 30 day average was 75%. It looked to me it was more in the 60% range. Anything north of 65% quickly becomes a money pit. Thanks for showing me that.
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