Open Scammer DataBase - Never get scammed again - page 2.

Moritz30

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Quote from: Emerge on January 08, 2017, 12:50:33 PM

I have a question..

I see Gravitate is added there in your scammer database.
Currently his case is disputed, so why is he already branded as a scammer?

Also, how would this be open if it has to be reviewed by a centralized party?

1. Gravitate has been removed when the case was resolved
2. If it would not have to be reviewed then everyone could just list themselves as trusted and others as scammers. Also we accept every real submission.

Emerge

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I have a question..

I see Gravitate is added there in your scammer database.
Currently his case is disputed, so why is he already branded as a scammer?

Also, how would this be open if it has to be reviewed by a centralized party?

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Quote from: ranlo on January 08, 2017, 01:52:43 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 07, 2017, 09:56:57 PM

Quote from: digaran on January 07, 2017, 09:11:18 PM

This is very cute, having a trust system completely off site of bitcointalk forums, but why not just click on "trust" in everyone's profile and decide whether that person is trusted or not? why do we want to go to your site for doing that? imo a total waste of time and a failed attempt to get some bitcoin as donation.

Yep, that's a derp and a half. This is exactly what our trust system here is for, and it's much easier to use than this digital Rube Goldberg contraption OP is pitching. Also, OP should probably see if that red trust he got from yahoo can somehow be resolved. Not smart to try to start up an escrow service when you're a newbie.

The red trust on these forums has zero value, so that's not true at all. You can pay people on the default trust list to neg rep anyone you want. You can also BUY rep by buying a DT account. Trust on these forums is absolutely worthless. You should follow the person's history, not whether or not they ticked off someone by saying something and got neg repped to oblivion even though they did nothing wrong.

Yeah all i takes is for someone to get butt hurt about something you said and you can get some red trust.
The trust system on any forum is a joke because they most of the time don't even keep track of it.
Also they offer no punishments for false reports against people.

Moritz30

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Quote from: electronicash on January 08, 2017, 09:47:38 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 09:24:02 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 08, 2017, 09:16:48 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

Escrow thing was a joke. Bad one. That's also why I have the red trust.

I have done quite some successful trades so I fulfil the site's requirements for being added to it.

Also OSDB will soon introduce algorithms to automatically find and blacklist scanmer accounts.

0x0010 Joked about being an alt of quickseller and s/he got negative trust for their troubles - you ( Moritz30 ) joke that you want to be an escrow and you got negative trust. Not very funny is it?

Yeah... I know. Have learned it...

Quote from: electronicash on January 08, 2017, 09:21:21 AM

i like this concept which users can submit who are to be listed. this will get to make the discussion board healthy for everyone to make transactions in the market section. he may not clean entirely but the rest of the scam buster can help him.

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

he may not approved it if you list him on his own database, that's not the fun part though

There are certain rules about who can get listed as trusted. They are same for everyone. And if I meet the requirements I can add myself, right? Just submit yourself and if you meet the requirements you will be listed as trusted.

now that's something one can abuse. if someone wants to portrait himself as reputable can possibly just do it before scamming users in the board.
its not something good really. i think you should require someone to sign a message when submitting..

Nonono. We manually review every submission and only if we can verify that the person is trustworthy the entry will be added to our production database.

electronicash

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Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 09:24:02 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 08, 2017, 09:16:48 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

Escrow thing was a joke. Bad one. That's also why I have the red trust.

I have done quite some successful trades so I fulfil the site's requirements for being added to it.

Also OSDB will soon introduce algorithms to automatically find and blacklist scanmer accounts.

0x0010 Joked about being an alt of quickseller and s/he got negative trust for their troubles - you ( Moritz30 ) joke that you want to be an escrow and you got negative trust. Not very funny is it?

Yeah... I know. Have learned it...

Quote from: electronicash on January 08, 2017, 09:21:21 AM

i like this concept which users can submit who are to be listed. this will get to make the discussion board healthy for everyone to make transactions in the market section. he may not clean entirely but the rest of the scam buster can help him.

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

he may not approved it if you list him on his own database, that's not the fun part though

There are certain rules about who can get listed as trusted. They are same for everyone. And if I meet the requirements I can add myself, right? Just submit yourself and if you meet the requirements you will be listed as trusted.

now that's something one can abuse. if someone wants to portrait himself as reputable can possibly just do it before scamming users in the board.
its not something good really. i think you should require someone to sign a message when submitting..

Moritz30

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 08, 2017, 09:41:36 AM

It sort-of sounds like a popularity contest where only the ones with the most Alts are going to be able to vote up their preferred UID's.

No. You can't vote someone up. You can just submit scammers and trusted people. We check every submission and if it's okay we add the entry to our database.

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It sort-of sounds like a popularity contest where only the ones with the most Alts are going to be able to vote up their preferred UID's.

Moritz30

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 08, 2017, 09:16:48 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

Escrow thing was a joke. Bad one. That's also why I have the red trust.

I have done quite some successful trades so I fulfil the site's requirements for being added to it.

Also OSDB will soon introduce algorithms to automatically find and blacklist scanmer accounts.

0x0010 Joked about being an alt of quickseller and s/he got negative trust for their troubles - you ( Moritz30 ) joke that you want to be an escrow and you got negative trust. Not very funny is it?

Yeah... I know. Have learned it...

Quote from: electronicash on January 08, 2017, 09:21:21 AM

i like this concept which users can submit who are to be listed. this will get to make the discussion board healthy for everyone to make transactions in the market section. he may not clean entirely but the rest of the scam buster can help him.

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

he may not approved it if you list him on his own database, that's not the fun part though

There are certain rules about who can get listed as trusted. They are same for everyone. And if I meet the requirements I can add myself, right? Just submit yourself and if you meet the requirements you will be listed as trusted.

electronicash

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Activity: 3178

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i like this concept which users can submit who are to be listed. this will get to make the discussion board healthy for everyone to make transactions in the market section. he may not clean entirely but the rest of the scam buster can help him.

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

he may not approved it if you list him on his own database, that's not the fun part though

Timelord2067

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Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

Quote from: memequiserle on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM

is owner site, scamer database
is receive red trust, or not trusted, and newbie account open service escrow
if owner site not trusted, you can added youre profile in your site is very high trusted, so is not reputable and trusted your database

Escrow thing was a joke. Bad one. That's also why I have the red trust.

I have done quite some successful trades so I fulfil the site's requirements for being added to it.

Also OSDB will soon introduce algorithms to automatically find and blacklist scanmer accounts.

0x0010 Joked about being an alt of quickseller and s/he got negative trust for their troubles - you ( Moritz30 ) joke that you want to be an escrow and you got negative trust. Not very funny is it?

Moritz30

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Quote from: FBCTorg on January 08, 2017, 05:47:42 AM

it's a good idea to have such database.

Glad you like it. But it's only useful if people actually submit scammers and use the site.

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it's a good idea to have such database.

Moritz30

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Quote from: ranlo on January 08, 2017, 04:05:30 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 04:02:09 AM

Quote from: ranlo on January 08, 2017, 04:00:57 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

That is one of the reasons OSDB was created.

I like the concept behind it, as it's essentially a WoT. But the issue is most people don't want to use an external resource to check those here. For example, most (myself included) generally won't take someone's "eBay" status and trust them here even though they're new. And there's no way to verify people, either. I could easily use the site to find trusted people and then start faking as if I am that party elsewhere so that when people look me up, I'm "trusted."

There will be a feature soon to show on which platforms a specific user is trusted

Interesting. That knocks out that issue, then. Also, may be worth making all usernames uppercase and have a notice letting people know to watch for deviations (i.e., Billy turns to BiIly. On some sites, these would be identical). And maybe store information like what their status is. So for Ranlo, it'd show as Legendary, so if there's a deviation in that it's obviously a fake as well.

The search does not leave out words after spaces. Also it ignores if you use uppercase or lowercase letters.

ranlo

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Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 04:02:09 AM

Quote from: ranlo on January 08, 2017, 04:00:57 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

That is one of the reasons OSDB was created.

I like the concept behind it, as it's essentially a WoT. But the issue is most people don't want to use an external resource to check those here. For example, most (myself included) generally won't take someone's "eBay" status and trust them here even though they're new. And there's no way to verify people, either. I could easily use the site to find trusted people and then start faking as if I am that party elsewhere so that when people look me up, I'm "trusted."

There will be a feature soon to show on which platforms a specific user is trusted

Interesting. That knocks out that issue, then. Also, may be worth making all usernames uppercase and have a notice letting people know to watch for deviations (i.e., Billy turns to BiIly. On some sites, these would be identical). And maybe store information like what their status is. So for Ranlo, it'd show as Legendary, so if there's a deviation in that it's obviously a fake as well.

Moritz30

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Quote from: ranlo on January 08, 2017, 04:00:57 AM

Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

That is one of the reasons OSDB was created.

I like the concept behind it, as it's essentially a WoT. But the issue is most people don't want to use an external resource to check those here. For example, most (myself included) generally won't take someone's "eBay" status and trust them here even though they're new. And there's no way to verify people, either. I could easily use the site to find trusted people and then start faking as if I am that party elsewhere so that when people look me up, I'm "trusted."

There will be a feature soon to show on which platforms a specific user is trusted

ranlo

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Quote from: Moritz30 on January 08, 2017, 02:02:29 AM

That is one of the reasons OSDB was created.

I like the concept behind it, as it's essentially a WoT. But the issue is most people don't want to use an external resource to check those here. For example, most (myself included) generally won't take someone's "eBay" status and trust them here even though they're new. And there's no way to verify people, either. I could easily use the site to find trusted people and then start faking as if I am that party elsewhere so that when people look me up, I'm "trusted."

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ranlo

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 07, 2017, 09:56:57 PM

Quote from: digaran on January 07, 2017, 09:11:18 PM

This is very cute, having a trust system completely off site of bitcointalk forums, but why not just click on "trust" in everyone's profile and decide whether that person is trusted or not? why do we want to go to your site for doing that? imo a total waste of time and a failed attempt to get some bitcoin as donation.

Yep, that's a derp and a half. This is exactly what our trust system here is for, and it's much easier to use than this digital Rube Goldberg contraption OP is pitching. Also, OP should probably see if that red trust he got from yahoo can somehow be resolved. Not smart to try to start up an escrow service when you're a newbie.

The red trust on these forums has zero value, so that's not true at all. You can pay people on the default trust list to neg rep anyone you want. You can also BUY rep by buying a DT account. Trust on these forums is absolutely worthless. You should follow the person's history, not whether or not they ticked off someone by saying something and got neg repped to oblivion even though they did nothing wrong.

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Quote from: digaran on January 07, 2017, 09:11:18 PM

This is very cute, having a trust system completely off site of bitcointalk forums, but why not just click on "trust" in everyone's profile and decide whether that person is trusted or not? why do we want to go to your site for doing that? imo a total waste of time and a failed attempt to get some bitcoin as donation.

Yep, that's a derp and a half. This is exactly what our trust system here is for, and it's much easier to use than this digital Rube Goldberg contraption OP is pitching. Also, OP should probably see if that red trust he got from yahoo can somehow be resolved. Not smart to try to start up an escrow service when you're a newbie.

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