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Quote from: Hazir on August 17, 2016, 10:32:52 AM

I am not sure whether OpenBazaar can be declared a failure project at this point. It is definitely too early.
I think that their idea of decentralized marketplace is amazing, but I doubt it is enough to gather huge consumer base around it.
They are not promoting themselves at all (it is a problem for almost all decentralized projects), so it is pretty obvious they won't be recognized.

I will have to agree with this. It is too early to say that it is a failure. What if we are all satisfied with one price and then want to spend it. Well, the openbazaar will be waiting for that point. But for now I think they should be spending more time in making it better.

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Is this site ever existed before? I haven't seen such a site really uses OB's core and it is all about hypes about OpenBazaar long time ago.

https://openbazaar.org/

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i think it is such a good idea and we cannot call it as a falier, it just need some extra effort, struggle and hard work with good management and advertisement, hope that the result will be totally different,

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Quote from: pereira4 on August 17, 2016, 09:49:22 AM

We'll see other poorer countries use them before us most likely.

Why would poorer countries use something they consider expensive? By the time they convert fiat to bitcoins all their income is gone.

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if they get 10M bucks for marketing, it will not be a failure, even sh** product can become trendy with a lot of money. twitter had 80M bucks investment and they could bring well-known people who can gather many followers.

beside it, bazaar is similar to django project, it is made that people must pay to get normal functional django website. similar like joomla and "pay to get more than just the core". django never became popular, people are not python programmers and they will not pay 100 times to some developers to do some task. django is good for rich customers, not for ordinary people, and many "internet people/generation" are young, without salary.

I checked background of the bazaar team, so,
Brian Hoffman, Founder OpenBazaar worked at booz allen hamilton,
it is the nsa company.

spies promise to us: open source means there is no spying backdoor and "accidentally" we can help to the cops to find you out (your IP). and "we don't give backdoor secretly to the fbi, we are not like tor developers"

but hey, the cops hunt people even for avoiding taxes, not only for drugs. so, if you sell something legal and you don't pay the tax, bazaar team can't abolish your shop, but they can help to the cops to arrest you... ehhhh, spies are always good for the gov.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 18, 2016, 05:30:52 AM

I disagree on this one , they are not the same thing , as Bitcoin Core needs to download a huge file (which makes most of people don't want to download it) while OpenBazaar doesn't require anything

unless you're a seller what possible reason would you have to get a node up and running? people have enough hassle in their lives already.

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It is not fast enough and a little unstable

speed is ok, i think it will recover in the near future and it will become even more popular in the future, i hope that it will be great soon

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nice statistics, but I think it is too soon to say OpenBazaar is a failure or success. it takes time to grow and become as popular as something like say ebay.
and also, I haven't tried it myself, but from the explanations of running a node and keeping it that I read, it seems like a lot of work and it is definitely not newbie friendly which is the main reason for it not being as popular as you may want it to be.

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Quote from: Zangelbert Bingledack on August 18, 2016, 06:39:54 AM

Can't call OpenBazaar a failure when they haven't enabled TOR yet. For better or worse, commerce for normal (non-contraband) items is going to be one of Bitcoin's last major uses as it goes mainstream, not one of its first.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37m00z/problem_when_i_spend_bitcoin_in_the_real_world_i/crnum1a

If it enabled that then I would be more inclined to use it.
Just like the torrent system. People were not wanting to try it because of privacy issues being a p2p network.
Now the ones who use it (the majority are tech-idiots) don't care. They just want their media! Grin

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Quote from: Zangelbert Bingledack on August 18, 2016, 06:39:54 AM

Can't call OpenBazaar a failure when they haven't enabled TOR yet. For better or worse, commerce for normal (non-contraband) items is going to be one of Bitcoin's last major uses as it goes mainstream, not one of its first.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37m00z/problem_when_i_spend_bitcoin_in_the_real_world_i/crnum1a

I've had some success using bitcoin to bypass capital controls in my country and shop online. I just used a debit card service powered by bitcoin to shop in regular online stores. There's no use for a decentralized marketplace if you're just using bitcoin out of need. I'm also a fan of bitcoin but this incentive to "decentralize everything" doesn't seem appealing with anything other than the currency itself.

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Can't call OpenBazaar a failure when they haven't enabled TOR yet. For better or worse, commerce for normal (non-contraband) items is going to be one of Bitcoin's last major uses as it goes mainstream, not one of its first.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37m00z/problem_when_i_spend_bitcoin_in_the_real_world_i/crnum1a

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I agree with it having more popularity. So that more developers will help enhance it.
I think the system is still raw. It needs more exposure, usage and development.

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OpenBazaar was overhyped and in the end underdelivered. IMO it's not better than centralized alternatives and inconvenient. The lack of anonymity makes the benefits that a decentralized marketplace would offer pointless, even for advanced users.

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Quote from: franky1 on August 18, 2016, 04:53:56 AM

my opinion
1. it took well over a year for bitcoin to have over 300 nodes.
2. openbazaar is not advertised well, so only gets a hand full of people
3. do the stats show users that just use it for 10-20 minutes a day to buy something. or only people running 24/7 as the stats may differ depending on what the stats are based on.
4. explaining point 3 more. not everyone wants to run a node 24/7 just to buy something once a month, its why bitcoin has a couple million users but only 6000 nodes

I disagree on this one , they are not the same thing , as Bitcoin Core needs to download a huge file (which makes most of people don't want to download it) while OpenBazaar doesn't require anything

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my opinion
1. it took well over a year for bitcoin to have over 300 nodes.
2. openbazaar is not advertised well, so only gets a hand full of people
3. do the stats show users that just use it for 10-20 minutes a day to buy something. or only people running 24/7 as the stats may differ depending on what the stats are based on.
4. explaining point 3 more. not everyone wants to run a node 24/7 just to buy something once a month, its why bitcoin has a couple million users but only 6000 nodes

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Quote from: davis196 on August 18, 2016, 04:22:46 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 17, 2016, 09:20:37 AM

I made a topic similar to this one few months ago, now I once again checked the OpenBazaar stats and It looks like they are the same (If not worst)

I've been checking the stats almost daily but there is absolutely no progress : https://bazaarbay.org/stats/day

The question is : Can we consider OpenBazaar as a failure in the crypto currency world ? and why ?

I`ve never used openbazaar because i can`t install it on my pc.

I think that the whole OpenBazaar idea is good, but most of the people don`t feel secure when they

have to buy stuff there.

Why not ? as far as I know , there is moderators & escrow there so I don't think things could go wrong.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 17, 2016, 09:20:37 AM

I made a topic similar to this one few months ago, now I once again checked the OpenBazaar stats and It looks like they are the same (If not worst)

I've been checking the stats almost daily but there is absolutely no progress : https://bazaarbay.org/stats/day

The question is : Can we consider OpenBazaar as a failure in the crypto currency world ? and why ?

I`ve never used openbazaar because i can`t install it on my pc.

I think that the whole OpenBazaar idea is good, but most of the people don`t feel secure when they

have to buy stuff there.

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I would like to see it succeed, but things need to move faster in crypto.

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Quote from: zimmah on August 17, 2016, 02:29:30 PM

As long as the users don't decline i don't think it's a failure.

Just give it some time to grow and improve.

sure...its need time to grow...but first comes improvement...without improvement of it then its a waste of time for it to grow...no need to come into conclusion yet..

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