OpenBazaar is in the making since ages. It really would be nice to have a working exchange that is really decentralized. Though its unavoidable that illegal things will be sold.
So really, the only solution would be decentralization. And if they fight the communication then encrypt everything, scramble, port changing and what so ever.
Topic: OpenBazaar founder: We aren't the next Silk Road (Read 2671 times)
Yes, let them ban the entire internet to stop BTC. Oh wait, they can't.
i think he means in the way they did with russia, which isn't a real ban in the end, but more like an intimidating approach, to make people reluctant to use bitcoin
they certainly cannot stop torrent, and they will not stop openbazar
yeah, they can not ban bitcoin, they can only scare businesses to prevent them from accepting bitcoin, but as long as there is places like openbazzar and darknets, and you can stay anonymous and spend/earn your bitcoins there is not really much they can do.
Yes, let them ban the entire internet to stop BTC. Oh wait, they can't.
i think he means in the way they did with russia, which isn't a real ban in the end, but more like an intimidating approach, to make people reluctant to use bitcoin
they certainly cannot stop torrent, and they will not stop openbazar
Yes, let them ban the entire internet to stop BTC. Oh wait, they can't.
CP and other illegal goods WILL be sold on OpenBazaar and there will be noone able to completely stop it, unless they change the protocol to decentralization.
If this is true, then OpenBazaar gives the authoritarian governments around the world (esp. United States, North Korea.etc) the perfect excuse to ban the possession of Bitcoin. And if they make the possession of Bitcoins a punishable offence, we will not get any sort of worldwide adoption, which we are hoping for. Is OpenBazaar worth all that trouble?
So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.
i think there are sort of moderator that check the torrent that users upload every day
it would be the same here, the escrow/arbiter will check if what you are selling is illegal or not
but then we can fall in a centralization market, which isn't what open bazar is aiming for
the point is that you can't have 100% regulation and decentralization, hell you can not even have 100% regulation in a centralized system...
in fact the biggest usage of torrent is to download all these copyrighted files.
yeah but there some heavy illegal stuff that you will not find there like cp, so someone is actually controlling
well in theory the escrow or arbiter can check what good they are selling, if they hold the money, they can ask for it
but then you will get a partial decentralized system or soemthing like that
as long as it is p2p nobody can have any control over it, AFAIK
the thing you are talking about looks like the control the website owner/moderator of sites like piratebay, kickass have over the content and that is purely on users reports
I really don't see how they can regulate it. From what I read ANYTHING can be sold on there.
Anything can be sold, as long as it doesn't clash with the Terms and Conditions. Sellers trying to trade CP.etc will be banned by the admin, and their earnings will be deducted from the wallets. That said, I don't think that OpenBazaar will be online anytime soon. May be they'll start trading in 2017 or 2018. Only by then, these things will become clear.
It has to be centralized to have terms and conditions. I understood that it would not have an admin or centralization.
CP and other illegal goods WILL be sold on OpenBazaar and there will be noone able to completely stop it, unless they change the protocol to decentralization.
There are many, many ways to hide one's IP. Even the illegal files can be altered and encrypted, so that noone will be able to check the files. Illegal services can have different legal names, as long as the end user knows the secret he will have easy access.
Somebody was saying, there is no CP on torrent... this is utter BS.
There are many, many ways to hide one's IP. Even the illegal files can be altered and encrypted, so that noone will be able to check the files. Illegal services can have different legal names, as long as the end user knows the secret he will have easy access.
Somebody was saying, there is no CP on torrent... this is utter BS.
So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.
i think there are sort of moderator that check the torrent that users upload every day
it would be the same here, the escrow/arbiter will check if what you are selling is illegal or not
but then we can fall in a centralization market, which isn't what open bazar is aiming for
the point is that you can't have 100% regulation and decentralization, hell you can not even have 100% regulation in a centralized system...
in fact the biggest usage of torrent is to download all these copyrighted files.
yeah but there some heavy illegal stuff that you will not find there like cp, so someone is actually controlling
the thing you are talking about looks like the control the website owner/moderator of sites like piratebay, kickass have over the content and that is purely on users reports
BitBay vs Openbazaar, which will win?
Why would you compare them ? They are different, BitPay is centalized while OpenBazzar is decentralized
They will have different customer, so i think both of them will win
Are you sure? Bitbay seems to be advertising itself as a Decentralized market https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbay-decentralized-marketplacesmart-contractsiot-techmarkets-open-850267
He said bitpay not bitbay. I think he got confused. Although this is the first I have heard about bitbay.
I wonder if the govt will go after him for releasing this kind of software .. I'm guessing since it's distributed he is bulletproof against prosecution, but I'm sure his phones are already tapped
It's just software. It's the use or abuse of it by others that causes the problem. The creator of Bittorrent is alive and well and not wearing shackles.
I wonder if the govt will go after him for releasing this kind of software .. I'm guessing since it's distributed he is bulletproof against prosecution, but I'm sure his phones are already tapped
BitBay vs Openbazaar, which will win?
Why would you compare them ? They are different, BitPay is centalized while OpenBazzar is decentralized
They will have different customer, so i think both of them will win
Are you sure? Bitbay seems to be advertising itself as a Decentralized market https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbay-decentralized-marketplacesmart-contractsiot-techmarkets-open-850267
So many BS replies just to boost post count for ad campaigns...
OpenBazaar still will be very attractive for different types of customers because of its decentralized system ,who doesn't want to share full details related to them.This will not be like Silk road but still will be usable like that somehow.This is modern concept of online trading platform which should have success in my opinion.Well only time will if it will be like Silk road or not as decentralization and multicoin support is enough to make further ways to fulfill the requirement of different customers.
The mods are on torrent listing sites; they don't actually moderate seeds and peers using the BitTorrent protocol.
I can imagine that's how it might end up working for many. There'll be sanitised portals that become popular. Perhaps vendors there will club together to increase buying power and reduce prices. If you want the grime then you'll be able to sniff around elsewhere.
Isn't it possible for the gov to force the openbazaar devs to shut it down if they wanted to?
open bazar isn't like silk road, they cannot do anything, but they may apply some kind of pressure(for example by tracking one of the user that use open bazar and seize his computer) and scare the users base, that is still so tiny, this will force other users to not join the project
really that statement very disappointed it will be no like Silk Road because many users were waiting ti its fully functional and that is most awaited project as so many eyes are on them, if they seize users access to the marketplace than it will become useless for big investors, Ebay and Amazon will remain market leader with these kind of stupidity.
Isn't it possible for the gov to force the openbazaar devs to shut it down if they wanted to?
open bazar isn't like silk road, they cannot do anything, but they may apply some kind of pressure(for example by tracking one of the user that use open bazar and seize his computer) and scare the users base, that is still so tiny, this will force other users to not join the project
Isn't it possible for the gov to force the openbazaar devs to shut it down if they wanted to?
If it's decentralized then how can they force them to shut down as there's no central authority to attack? IT would be like going after satoshi to take down bitcoin or trying to take down a torrent client. Besides, many more decentralized markets will pop up sooner rather than later and many will be open source. The best one will prevail.
Isn't it possible for the gov to force the openbazaar devs to shut it down if they wanted to?
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