Operator of Silk Road 2.0, Blake Benthall, arrested yesterday by FBI agents in S

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Quote from: Tzupy on November 11, 2014, 06:10:35 AM

More information about the Tor issues:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/law-enforcement-seized-tor-nodes-and-may-have-run-some-of-its-own/

It looks like the short answer as to how so many tor/onion sites were taken down all at once is "we don't know"

I would say that the fact that sites like doxbin were taken down (and other non-illegal sites and various nodes) means that people who are trying to use tor for legit purposes (like journalists in North Korea or China) will be at much greater risk and will probably choose to not use tor in the first place

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More information about the Tor issues:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/law-enforcement-seized-tor-nodes-and-may-have-run-some-of-its-own/

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Quote from: orsotheysaid on November 09, 2014, 02:56:20 PM

Quote from: poncom on November 09, 2014, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's like weed on steroids i've heard.

you heard wrong..

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Quote from: Tzupy on November 10, 2014, 05:40:57 AM

This article may help understand how the Tor sites were compromised:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/silk-road-other-tor-darknet-sites-may-have-been-decloaked-through-ddos/

Interesting read. I never fully trusted tor to begin with. Before that article tor like to say it was the safest for hidden services and not so much the end user because of the possibility of bad nodes. Now, assuming that the information in that article is correct, the hidden services aren't really safe either. If that is the case I think it may have outlived its usefulness.

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This article may help understand how the Tor sites were compromised:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/silk-road-other-tor-darknet-sites-may-have-been-decloaked-through-ddos/

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Quote from: nothing2seeHere on November 09, 2014, 10:22:55 PM

He should not be allowed to conduct such business either on the street or online. Law enforcement will go after "online" sites because they are a "big" target that can stop a large amount of criminal activity at one time

Well, I disagree on that. There is little to no purpose served by prohibition.

Additionally, they'll go after online sites because it looks sexy and gets headlines, and they can claim to have stopped a large amount of criminal activity, while actually having done absolutely nothing of any utility whatsoever.

It's barely even tinfoil to wonder if they're simply yet again favoring their preferred drug cartels in Mexico and South America.

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Quote from: NotLambchop on November 09, 2014, 08:35:35 AM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 09, 2014, 07:21:31 AM

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PS: SR (at least version 1) didn't even allow guns, hitman scams, or child porn ("loli"?).

Lol, but why?
If your argument "If drugs are not being sold safely peacefully online, they are sold in the streets with people robbing and killing each other" shows anything, it shows that all criminal activity should be allowed online, because less violence.

A budding neckbeard criminal should be able to purchase his throwaway .25 from the privacy and safety of his ~~home~~ mom's basement, instead of endangering himself and others by conducting business in the street Cool

He should not be allowed to conduct such business either on the street or online. Law enforcement will go after "online" sites because they are a "big" target that can stop a large amount of criminal activity at one time

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Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 03:11:29 PM

Quote from: orsotheysaid on November 09, 2014, 02:56:20 PM

Quote from: poncom on November 09, 2014, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's like weed on steroids i've heard.

Actually it has been reported that Ayahuasca makes you quit weed and other potentially harmful drugs for life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8ZplWWVUyH8#t=401

Not sure about Ayahuasca, but Ibogaine is particularly known for that, especially for heroin addiction:

Random paper about it:
http://www.iceers.org/docs/science/iboga/Alper%20et%20al_1999_Acute_Opiate_Withdrawal.pdf

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Quote from: orsotheysaid on November 09, 2014, 02:56:20 PM

Quote from: poncom on November 09, 2014, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's like weed on steroids i've heard.

Actually it has been reported that Ayahuasca makes you quit weed and other potentially harmful drugs for life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8ZplWWVUyH8#t=401

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Quote from: poncom on November 09, 2014, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's like weed on steroids i've heard.

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Quote from: NotLambchop on November 09, 2014, 08:44:36 AM

Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 09, 2014, 08:33:40 AM

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My point is that it is not righteous to shut down a site or software that allows (1) simply because other actors might use it for other purposes...

It's not righteous to shut down CP websites!!1!
Child pornography is an invaluable tool for understanding the psyche of child molesters. Why penalize the scholars and providers of such valuable research material just because said material could be misused?

Not what I said.

I suggest you read my posts more carefully.

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Quote from: poncom on November 09, 2014, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's essentially orally taken DMT with the help of MAOI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Rwi-tam1o

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Quote from: poncom on November 09, 2014, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

Some hippy plant with DMT.

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Quote from: Hyena on November 09, 2014, 09:28:08 AM

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

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i guess thats what will happen if the gov don't benefit to it.

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Quote from: adaseb on November 07, 2014, 05:16:47 PM

Yes but they got what they deserved. What they were doing was illegal and what did they expect.

No, they are not getting "what they deserve." Just because something is illegal doesn't mean those found guilty of it "deserve" what happens to them.

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

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Quote from: adaseb on November 07, 2014, 05:16:47 PM

Yes but they got what they deserved. What they were doing was illegal and what did they expect.

How about the law lets individuals do whatever the fuck they wish in their privacy? As long as they obey the regular civil law (no assaults, robberies etc) why would the law deny my free will? Yes you'd rather have more stuff like this happening while we use outdated laws http://en.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2lnnh1/law_enforcement_2_me_0/ instead of bringing the laws up to date to better protect the people.

Stupid ass idiots not being able to think deeper than one level/layer!

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Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 09, 2014, 08:33:40 AM

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My point is that it is not righteous to shut down a site or software that allows (1) simply because other actors might use it for other purposes...

It's not righteous to shut down CP websites!!1!
Child pornography is an invaluable tool for understanding the psyche of child molesters. Why penalize the scholars and providers of such valuable research material just because said material could be misused?

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Quote from: Wandererfromthenorth on November 09, 2014, 07:21:31 AM

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PS: SR (at least version 1) didn't even allow guns, hitman scams, or child porn ("loli"?).

Lol, but why?
If your argument "If drugs are not being sold safely peacefully online, they are sold in the streets with people robbing and killing each other" shows anything, it shows that all criminal activity should be allowed online, because less violence.

A budding neckbeard criminal should be able to purchase his throwaway .25 from the privacy and safety of his ~~home~~ mom's basement, instead of endangering himself and others by conducting business in the street Cool

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In order to illustrate better the points I made about SR take the example of the upcoming Openbazaar and the issues that arise with it (anybody can sell whatever since it's decentralised and censorship free):

If it works, Openbazaar will be a place:

(1): ...where people needing the drugs I mentioned (among a lot of other things) could have them without having to take too much risk on the streets and having a product that was not adulterated, clean, of quality (reputation system) etc.
That's it.

My point is that it is not righteous to shut down a site or software that allows (1) simply because other actors might use it for other purposes.
Exactly as it doesn't make sense to ban the internet itself just because it makes life a lot easier for child porn wierdos etc. Such a measure wouldn't make sense even if it was possible.

Of course the “defcon” dude asked for it etc. Of course the FBI was doing his job, etc But that's beyond my point.

Simple as that.

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