Topic: Opinions on death penalty? - page 2. (Read 733 times)

If you're gonna execute them, get it over with. Or is there some kind of retribution that is gained from prolonging it?

Make sure they are guilty... really deserving of the death penalty. Then get it over with. Guillotine is the fastest, sure way.

Yep I dont know the exact logistics behind it but yes making them work would be useful too. Really anything but letting them just live there for 30 years. Some prisons are tough but others arent and the comfort sometimes is higher than outside.

I guess you would get more than 20 years for that crime. Anyway, I partly agree with your point about the cost of living for one prisoner which certainly adds up to a big amount in 20 years. But I have a solution for this. The cost of security, food etc. should be deducted from prisoner's life savings, his property should be sold. If/when this would not be enough, the prisoner should work at the prison. This is already functioning in many prisons - prisoners work in factories or as farmers. But they get very small salary, more like pocket money. Instead, they should work to pay for their costs and if they earned more, this would be their money. If they refused to work, they would get significantly lower comfort level (very small room, no outdoor time...) and cheaper food.

Why waste time with someone who murdered 10 people just because maybe after 20 years he might become "better"? We dont need that, use the money to educate children not to waste it on a dude who murders people.

No death penalty.

Some prisons maybe hell and some maybe better, by giving a chance to get an education, develop a skill, and even explore the arts.

And, yes! What what about innocent people that were convicted?

There is always a chance for a human being to grow and get better as long as they are alive.

It does not really reduce crime but it does save people money, if we have to keep someone in jail for 50 years, we have to pay for everything, food, clothes, etc. If we just execute him, all that money is saved.

It’s not about the death penalty it’s about the penalty which is required to maintain peaceful environment and one who is commuting sin or violating basic human rights must get severe punishment and it’s justified. Do I do support death penalty and for all not for only poor criminals.

I strongly oppose prevention. In most countries there's so much focus on it that it's becoming hard to live by the rules. Also, prevention only takes power from the people and gives it to the police. I'll give you an example. In some countries you can be armed at all times and can shoot intruders. In other, even knives are banned. Literally, in the UK you can't carry a small knife in your pocket because to the police you are armed. So, the police can carry firearms, but you  can't even have a pocket knife. There are even dumber laws in some countries that don't even allow you to fight an armed burglar to your own home. If you do it and he gets injured or killed you could go to jail.
I don't need the police to tell me where I can or can't walk, drink, smoke, who I can meet up with or at what hours because their statistics say that if I'm out at night I'm in danger of being mugged.


No. There's no collective responsibility here! Would you say the same if somebody came into your house and rapoed your sister? That it was the fault of the society and the police? No, it was his fault and your own because you didn't have an alarm system and guns in the house.


Sure, it wouldn't be a bad idea to take organs from people instead of killing them, but what about basic human rights? Wouldn't that be like torture for them? Maybe give them a choice?

I too agree that death should not be the first choice when handing out a sentence, and as much as I hate to say it death penalty laws are required to instil fear in the mind of criminals. While your thoughts are noble about keeping them alive by taking their organs for donation, I strongly feel this will be misused by criminals as they’ll commit gruesome crimes and escape the punishment. One more important thing what happens when these criminals escape the custody when they’re being taken to the hospital, and once again commit a heinous crime will you yet say they should not be executed?.

I kinda agree on many points.

However, criminal or not, we should consider everyone human being. And as a human being, one is a human resource. To kill a human is to end the human resource.

I think as a society, we should focus more on how to prevent crimes in the first place rather than thinking how to punish after the crime is commited.

If there has been a mass murder, it's not just the fault of the murderer, but of society as a whole who couldn't prevent it from happening despite having strong police and army forces and intelligence agencies!

I have some different solutions, instead of giving death penalty , take one of its kidneys and donate to someone who needs thus saving the other person's life. Now have a strict super vision on the criminal for rest of his life, but let him live it without the borders of four walls. I'm pretty sure, with a weak body and only one kidney and strict supervision, he won't be able to commit any crime either. Instead of just killing him off, this solution is better what do you think?

only the rappers with lil in there name tho

Lil Wayne.
Lil Pump.
Lil Ronny
Lil Boosie.
Lil Baby.
Lil Xan.
Lil Yachty.
Lil Flip.
Lil Dex

I mean there is some good rappers out there like this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kppx4bzfAaE
Do you think a priest rapper should have the death penalty?

There are two important points for each side of this debate and all 4 are valid, thus we can't really say death penalty is right or wrong.
Points against:
People make mistakes and there were many people imprisoned by mistake. What if these people were executed by mistake? The Green Mile comes to mind.
By allowing death penalty we are also opening ourselves to being abused and oppressed. What if somebody decides that the scope of crimes punishable by death should be broadened? One day we may find ourselves sentenced to death for defending our property, or not paying our taxes.

Points for:
What about the most dangerous mass murderers. People who raped and murdered children. People who are diagnosed psychopaths who have to be kept in isolation for the next 50 years? Should the taxes be spent on feeding and guarding them when there are other, more pressing needs?
Poor people are dying from cold and starvation every day. If we keep treating prisoners well, giving them free healthcare, warm cells, 3 meals a day, what does that say about the justice system? Kill and we shall take care of you for the rest of your life? If your life is hard, you can always murder someone and if you get away with it you'll profit and if not you will still profit in another way.

It is all about second chances. I highly believed that there are really people who deserves to be forgiven because of their crimes for such reasons.

I agree with techshare, if someone get death sentence without due process is purely unfair and can be one of the biggest loop hole of this ideology. Just read to what is currently happening in Hongkong. I was not so sure of what the law was but it is all about punishing a certain person who is just still suspected of a crime.

humans are natural enemies, an absolutely just society will never exist and capital punishment of some will result into negative effects, over time the society will look like tyranny, and others will form enemies against it.

Death penalty is not going to be given to any good persons so why we need to be agasint it.

More strict punishment will make more afraid to the people who want to do crimes so it may actually restrict the crimes rates but for the system works perfect we need to have corruption free nation.

Depending on the situation of a certain country, if the crime rate is so high, then brutal punishment like this is necessary to minimize the crime rate.
This punishment would certainly make criminal minds to possibly change, in our country there was a death penalty before but was removed after a new president was elected and it seems like our new president now is not against this so I guess it will be back soon.

Death penalty are for rapists, this is the most common offenders that get sentence in the past, I hope they'll also ad drug lords or drug traffickers as that's the root cause of a big crimes.

Exactly. That is why government power should be strictly limited.

there is never a perfectly working government, never something without corruption

If we can establish a perfect government, death penalty will work well. But our governments are easily influenced and manipulated since it is managed by human. It will become dangerous for innocent people framed. They can get penalized for a crime they didn't commit. This is not a rare case and happened repeatedly in different parts of the world. Even you say to have a strict government. Humans are humans, they can get biased no matter what. And that's a very sensitive thing about this.

I believe it might be acceptable for certain crimes but with the possibility of a wrong conviction it should only be allowed when the accused has been proven "guilty beyond reasonable doubt" and that ample time has been allowed for appeals. There have been cases of people being in jail for 30 years or more only to be acquitted later.


Exactly. Much as I like to see certain kinds of criminals dead, there's no denying that investigators can be quite stupid at times. And not to mention malicious lying bitches and jerks seem to get more and more brazen these days. Take this guy for example... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2syWS-2M0  Dude stayed in prison for 5 years over a rape allegation. The woman later admitted she lied and got a slap on the wrist.


Might not work everywhere but don't Greenlanders let out their inmates during certain times of the year and they even go hunting?

Unfortunately supervision can only go so far. I live in a low-income neighborhood where it's common knowledge who's who is a drug dealer. These people have been in and out of jail several times already but never change. An "industry" has even developed around them where equally corrupt cops and local politicians had them arrested, fined, released and then arrested again.