That being said, I've also had bad experiences and bad feedback from Seagate. Maxtor isn't bad, but if you can go for WD, go for it. As for Hitachi, never used their drives, so I cannot vouch for them, but I've heard they have amazing drives
Topic: Opinions wanted on new hard drives for the upcoming block size change... (Read 1471 times)
June 05, 2015, 02:31:57 AM
As said before, if the block sizes change, they won't be immediately filled up to the top, so the blockchain won't start to grow at a faster pace all of a sudden. But I do approve of new disks for nodes, it will make them future proof!
That being said, I've also had bad experiences and bad feedback from Seagate. Maxtor isn't bad, but if you can go for WD, go for it. As for Hitachi, never used their drives, so I cannot vouch for them, but I've heard they have amazing drives
That being said, I've also had bad experiences and bad feedback from Seagate. Maxtor isn't bad, but if you can go for WD, go for it. As for Hitachi, never used their drives, so I cannot vouch for them, but I've heard they have amazing drives
June 04, 2015, 10:31:52 PM
rule number 1 of buying HD:
+ Dont touch anything Seagate +
+ Dont touch anything Seagate +
Oh boy. Used a Seagate HDD for my new computer - kind of worried now after having looked at the stats.
As to HDDs, 5400/5900 RPM would be fine - you don't need the additional reduction in latency from a faster drive when you're basically doing archive work. As to space, I wouldn't be too concerned, the math checks out - you won't be using that 8TB anytime soon.
June 04, 2015, 10:20:42 PM
If OP is running a hot swap raid system, you should need to worry about the capacity at all. You can swap out one or two of the hard disks and automatically rebuild the raid on a larger set while the system is online. In this case, you need to buy the most reliable and cost effective hard disks.
June 04, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
and in the meantime:
This works to back up your Bitcoins
June 04, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
I am gearing up for the upcoming block size change. Can anyone give me their opinions of these hard drives to use as storage?
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Seems excessive.
Even if the blocksize limit were to be increased to 20MB per block (seems unlikely at the moment).
And even if the very moment the limit is increased, EVERY block were to be instantly and continuously filled to the limit with transactions.
You'd still only be looking at:
20,000,000 per block X 52,560 blocks per year = 1 TB per year.
Just a single one of those drives is likely to take more than a decade to fill with the blockchain, and larger, cheaper, faster storage is likely to be developed and marketed before then.
I'm sure there will be further massive improvements to existing alternatives soon. There are already 1TB USB3 pen drives with 450MB/s read speeds. Some of them are almost as fast as hard drives. In another year or two the prices of the top range ones should come down, and both their capacity and speed might increase further.
June 04, 2015, 02:40:13 PM
It seems this needs to be said a few more times: Increasing the maximum block size will have absolutely no immediate effect on the block size.
right, all this has made me remember the whole story about pci-3 .0 and how it was not needed at that time, until now when is still not fully saturated
we are basically in the same boat
and there are many more comparison with the general pc hardware story...
June 04, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
Thanks a lot for your help folks. I steered clear of the Seagate drives.
June 02, 2015, 12:46:18 PM
Seagate has a high fault rate. WD not.
June 02, 2015, 12:38:28 PM
Why not wait for the outcome of this transition (if ever there will be one) first before buying a new storage? Who knows while waiting for what would really happen in this fork, you are actually saving a couple of $$$ for a new drive. Remember, prices of gadgets and storage devices tend to decrease over a period of time as new generation of devices and gadgets appear in the market.
June 02, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
It seems this needs to be said a few more times: Increasing the maximum block size will have absolutely no immediate effect on the block size.
+1
yep. so your 8 TB harddrive will be enough for the next 10 years i guess.
June 02, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
It seems this needs to be said a few more times: Increasing the maximum block size will have absolutely no immediate effect on the block size.
June 02, 2015, 12:35:39 PM
and in the meantime:
June 02, 2015, 12:18:35 PM
hardware prices are always a falling knife....buy it in 6 months and safe 200 USD ...
...this is true as well, it might actually just be a better idea to wait and see what will actually happen with the fork, and in the meantime prices might fall quite a bit, or a new hard drive might be released with even better specs for the same price
June 02, 2015, 11:43:28 AM
hardware prices are always a falling knife....buy it in 6 months and safe 200 USD ...
... June 02, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
wouldn't use that hard drive in the link if I were you, Seagates are known to fail easily, i've actually used a seagate drive before and had it break on me in a little over a year.
June 02, 2015, 11:15:23 AM
Do you really need fast hard drives to write a block to every 10 minutes? I guess a very reliable server drive at 5400 rpm would be more durable and energy efficient for this type of task?
True, 6-8 TB does indeed seem a tad excessive for running a full node, assuming thats the intention here, but it may be that op is planning for the long term, or using the storage space for other media. Either way, the general consensus seems to be that Seagate is a definite no-go.
June 02, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
from my own experience, seagate was good in the pass, but now i preffer WD the RED series are pretty good and dont forget are cheapest than seagate., well maybe not a lot but a little bit cheap.
About hitachi dunno i never had one hitachi HDD, but from what im reading here maybe my next HD will be hitachi
About hitachi dunno i never had one hitachi HDD, but from what im reading here maybe my next HD will be hitachi
June 02, 2015, 11:03:55 AM
did some quick looking around on hard drives, one on the "customers also bought" section looked alright, what about this one? the max capacity is a tad smaller (6 GB down from 
though.
though.Do you know the read/write speed, overall quality, average lifespan or any other differences between Seagate and Western Digital drives?
Thanks.
I have had both, and both have worked well for me. No complaints.
I would also suggest looking at slickdeals.net, they have some really good prices on HD sometimes, although I don't know if it is the type you need. Fry's.com can also have good deals once in a while.
June 02, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
A bit of FUD there.
You don't need to be so desperate, anything that can be bought today is enough for a few years.
The only thing you should be aware is the RPM, HDD that are higher than 10k RPM are interesting but more expensive.
You don't need to be so desperate, anything that can be bought today is enough for a few years.
The only thing you should be aware is the RPM, HDD that are higher than 10k RPM are interesting but more expensive.
June 02, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
im using a 2tb green for my blockchain, i do have a has to backup to in case the hard drive fails, weekly backups are made during Am hours.
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