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Topic: Our $1 trillion chance (Read 1695 times)

sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
#30
The age old "troll or idiot" conundrum...if only their were some kind of test!

I guess we could try to find out if he's mining litecoin or not.
full member
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June 18, 2013, 12:24:37 PM
#29
The age old "troll or idiot" conundrum...if only their were some kind of test!
legendary
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June 18, 2013, 02:07:02 AM
#28
getting the government to steal more money from innocent people isnt going to help the problem of poverty because its the reason why we have a problem of poverty to begin with.

nice try but this is the wrong forum on which to spout statist drivel if you are seeking a receptive audience. perhaps try the comment section of cnn.com.

*edit* 1 more vote for idiot. if he is a troll than he has a real talent for it!  Grin
newbie
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June 18, 2013, 02:02:10 AM
#27
I wonder if OP realizes the irony of being pro-Bitcoin AND of being in favor or more taxes/government regulation, at the same time.

If he does - this might be the best trolling we've yet soon on bitcointalk.org.

I vote troll  Grin

Voting troll might be overestimating the average person's intelligence. I vote idiot.
sr. member
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June 18, 2013, 01:51:39 AM
#26
I wonder if OP realizes the irony of being pro-Bitcoin AND of being in favor or more taxes/government regulation, at the same time.

If he does - this might be the best trolling we've yet soon on bitcointalk.org.

I vote troll  Grin
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hero member
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June 18, 2013, 01:49:14 AM
#25
So you are saying it ok large corporations get away with it?
Why not take one step at a time?

get away with money they earned? yes I'm ok with that

If there is one thing governments need is...more money.

yeah, they're the ones who can create it out of half-baked thoughts
newbie
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June 18, 2013, 12:36:10 AM
#24
I wonder if OP realizes the irony of being pro-Bitcoin AND of being in favor or more taxes/government regulation, at the same time.
legendary
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June 14, 2013, 11:54:34 PM
#23
The Feds have certainly done a lot lately to make us feel warm and fuzzy about their commitment to open and  just governance for all.
newbie
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June 12, 2013, 06:59:54 PM
#22
The government's attempt at trying to look like Robin Hood, when really they are the enemies.
legendary
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June 12, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
#21
I see. The government with such a great record of their budget, wants more taxes to spend.

I'm just waiting for someone to make that very important discovery:

"Hey, wait a minute.  If all of this will be paid for by government, and the government is using our money to do it...why don't we just keep the money and pay for it ourselves?"

That would really make my day Tongue
newbie
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June 12, 2013, 06:46:13 PM
#20
I see. The government with such a great record of their budget, wants more taxes to spend.
legendary
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June 12, 2013, 06:23:41 PM
#19
So you are saying it ok large corporations get away with it?
Why not take one step at a time?

The government is what protects corporations and monopolies.  What makes you believe they'd have anyone else's interests in mind?
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June 12, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
#18
I would love to see a website explaining how normal people can use these loopholes to avoid taxes. If regular Americans began using them they would go away overnight. Let's face it, avoiding taxes has become a privilege of the rich. It's shameful, immoral, and increasingly I think people should consider not participating in it.   

Its a great idea but a lot of the loopholes fall into the "it takes money to make money" category. If you cant afford to set up a shell corporation in Ireland and transfer all your assets over their while using another shell corporation that is domestically listed to hold your loses, you're going to have a tough time exploiting loopholes.

But I'm sure their are other smaller ones that the average Joe could take advantage of, my level of tax expertise is just too lacking to come up with them. When in doubt just claim a few imaginary kids  Cool
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
June 12, 2013, 12:20:58 PM
#17
I would love to see a website explaining how normal people can use these loopholes to avoid taxes. If regular Americans began using them they would go away overnight. Let's face it, avoiding taxes has become a privilege of the rich. It's shameful, immoral, and increasingly I think people should consider not participating in it.   
newbie
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June 12, 2013, 12:14:54 PM
#16
Wow 1 trillion $ is a lot of money entrusted in old men.
full member
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June 12, 2013, 12:07:34 PM
#15
Have you considered that the government largely causes poverty, is terrible at educating children and is the most environmentally destructive force on the planet?

Giving the government more money doesn't fix anything. The reason the corporations are able to "evade" these taxes is because the government wrote the tax code that way. Its real easy to pay almost no taxes if you can hire enough accounts and lawyers to find the loopholes. Joe Six Pack who files his taxes with turbo tax is the one getting screwed.
sr. member
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June 10, 2013, 08:01:39 PM
#14
Is money important or are the things that are produced important?  How much does the government contribute towards our well-being?

You only need to look around your house, down at the local supermarket etc and ask the question, how much of this was produced by the government?

Government is an inefficient black hole for money.  Very little of substance is actually produced by them.   Throwing more money at the politicians will just see more capital wasted and more people worse off.

Are we going to get the government to produce food for everyone?  Like in the Soviet Union?
hero member
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June 10, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
#13
Have you considered the consequences of draining an extra trillion $ out of the economy?

Have you considered that the government largely causes poverty, is terrible at educating children and is the most environmentally destructive force on the planet?
sr. member
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June 10, 2013, 06:54:43 PM
#12
This should be a no-brainer. To massively boost our public finances in a time of painful cuts and debt, all we need to do is ensure that everyone pays the taxes they're supposed to.
That's fine, fine. But I also contend that the amount of taxes one is supposed to pay, in terms of ethical considerations, is zero taxes. Just like one is not -supposed- to pay a robber holding a gun on you. One does it to avoid worst aggressions against their person, not because they have a moral obligation to do so. Quite the reverse, the moral obligation is on the robber not to rob you.
sr. member
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June 10, 2013, 05:36:49 PM
#11
to the OP, good luck with that.    If you somehow manage to plug that hole, don't be surprised when another leak occurs, and another.    Unless and until governments and central bankers are obliged by competitive forces to use a currency they cannot directly control.

oh, and if you really want to accomplish those goals you speak of, try freedom, not taxation.

hint:  heavy taxation has existed throughout history.  think: feudalism.  Periods of greatest prosperity and innovation have coincided with greatest freedom and lowest taxation.

iow, get a clue.
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