Outcome of Horn vs. Pacquiao - REMATCH (PHILIPPINES)

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 04, 2017, 03:45:24 AM

I think Bob Arum is in the works for a rematch between the two:

Jeff Horn v Manny Pacquiao rematch firming for November in Brisbane

A SOPHISTICATED ceiling of airconditioners could be installed over the boxing ring to counter the summer heat for the Brisbane rematch between world champ Jeff Horn and Manny Pacquiao.

The Courier-Mail understands the rematch is firming for November 12 at Suncorp Stadium, with plans being made to deal with the summer heat.

The Queensland Government is yet to sign on the dotted line, however, discussions are well advanced to hold the rematch in Brisbane.

Concerns had been raised about Brisbane’s ability to host an outdoor fight in the later months of the year, given the heat and threat of storms.

But it’s understood those factors are being taken into account, with the possibility of using airconditioners above the ring to keep the fighters cool.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/jeff-horn-v-manny-pacquiao-rematch-firming-for-november-in-brisbane/news-story/38f3ad34c58ef1ffd48d1408196c90b9

Pacquiao is risking his career on the line here. If ever he lost again, I think its gonna be over. Even Roach himself said that Pacquiao is not the same and doesn't have it anymore. Last time I heard Roach saying this is when Pacquiao has beaten Dela Hoya. Building before the fight, Roach said that Dela Hoya doesn't have it and its true when the fight happened. Well Pacquiao wants to redeemed and proved that he really won the fight but too much risk. If ever he lost, he's legacy will somewhat be tainted by back to back lost to a nobody.

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I think Bob Arum is in the works for a rematch between the two. Let us see how it goes. Hope that Pacquiao will get the deserving win this time.

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Jeff Horn v Manny Pacquiao rematch firming for November in Brisbane

A SOPHISTICATED ceiling of airconditioners could be installed over the boxing ring to counter the summer heat for the Brisbane rematch between world champ Jeff Horn and Manny Pacquiao.

The Courier-Mail understands the rematch is firming for November 12 at Suncorp Stadium, with plans being made to deal with the summer heat.

The Queensland Government is yet to sign on the dotted line, however, discussions are well advanced to hold the rematch in Brisbane.

Concerns had been raised about Brisbane’s ability to host an outdoor fight in the later months of the year, given the heat and threat of storms.

But it’s understood those factors are being taken into account, with the possibility of using airconditioners above the ring to keep the fighters cool.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/jeff-horn-v-manny-pacquiao-rematch-firming-for-november-in-brisbane/news-story/38f3ad34c58ef1ffd48d1408196c90b9

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Quote from: bering on July 16, 2017, 01:07:06 PM

i just watching the sport news that WBO has granted Pacquiao wish to investigated the results match between him and Horn although whatever the results of this investigated he still lost his title but at least Pacquiao will get justice however is there any possibility for rematch for both of them

I think the result what already out mate. The WBO stay firms with the decision that Horn won the fight. But I don't know if they are going to be a rematch. But honestly, I don't want a rematch. For me, Pacquiao needs to retire, he has seen better days. And I think Manny, doesn't have the love from Bob Arum anymore, and also believes that Arum thinks he is not the cash cow that he use to be. For sure Arum is looking for a new one and maybe he is building Horn as the heir apparent. But I seriously doubt it will happen though, he will lose his fight defense title specially if he go out to fight in the US and not in Australia.

Horn is a talentless boxer, there is nothing that I saw in that fight that told me that we were witnessing the birth of a new star in boxing, this is why this bothers me so much, sometimes older fighters get robbed in order to hype a new star but we are going to forget about horn in the next few years.

I totally agree with you, he didn't show me anything in the ring worthy of a champion. And pacman should call for a reamatch and beat off this guy for me

I think a rematch is not advisable in this case. Whole world knew who really won that fight and the fact that He has nothing prove since he already prove himself way way back. I also agree to the fact that he now can't focus on his boxing career since he's already senator. He now has more responsibilities to prioritize than to practice and to train.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on July 17, 2017, 01:26:35 PM

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Quote from: bering on July 16, 2017, 01:07:06 PM

i just watching the sport news that WBO has granted Pacquiao wish to investigated the results match between him and Horn although whatever the results of this investigated he still lost his title but at least Pacquiao will get justice however is there any possibility for rematch for both of them

I think the result what already out mate. The WBO stay firms with the decision that Horn won the fight. But I don't know if they are going to be a rematch. But honestly, I don't want a rematch. For me, Pacquiao needs to retire, he has seen better days. And I think Manny, doesn't have the love from Bob Arum anymore, and also believes that Arum thinks he is not the cash cow that he use to be. For sure Arum is looking for a new one and maybe he is building Horn as the heir apparent. But I seriously doubt it will happen though, he will lose his fight defense title specially if he go out to fight in the US and not in Australia.

Horn is a talentless boxer, there is nothing that I saw in that fight that told me that we were witnessing the birth of a new star in boxing, this is why this bothers me so much, sometimes older fighters get robbed in order to hype a new star but we are going to forget about horn in the next few years.

I totally agree with you, he didn't show me anything in the ring worthy of a champion. And pacman should call for a reamatch and beat off this guy for me

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Quote from: joshy23 on July 16, 2017, 02:21:25 PM

Quote from: bering on July 16, 2017, 01:07:06 PM

i just watching the sport news that WBO has granted Pacquiao wish to investigated the results match between him and Horn although whatever the results of this investigated he still lost his title but at least Pacquiao will get justice however is there any possibility for rematch for both of them

I think the result what already out mate. The WBO stay firms with the decision that Horn won the fight. But I don't know if they are going to be a rematch. But honestly, I don't want a rematch. For me, Pacquiao needs to retire, he has seen better days. And I think Manny, doesn't have the love from Bob Arum anymore, and also believes that Arum thinks he is not the cash cow that he use to be. For sure Arum is looking for a new one and maybe he is building Horn as the heir apparent. But I seriously doubt it will happen though, he will lose his fight defense title specially if he go out to fight in the US and not in Australia.

Horn is a talentless boxer, there is nothing that I saw in that fight that told me that we were witnessing the birth of a new star in boxing, this is why this bothers me so much, sometimes older fighters get robbed in order to hype a new star but we are going to forget about horn in the next few years.

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Quote from: milewilda on July 16, 2017, 10:33:49 PM

This thread should be close since the fight is over and what done is done already and we cant change those decision even myself do believe that pacquiao do won that fight but judges decision would really remain final even no matter how much we do argue on this matter but still it cant change everything.If there would be a rematch then it would be a nice fight if horn will fight fairly.

I don't think that it should be closed already, it's just a discussion and nothing will ever change the outcome because it's already there and that's just what should be done, to know the reality of losing. It's just a matter of time to make a comeback but I don't think Pacquiao can focus all of his efforts to Boxing alone, knowing that he's a senator in the Philippines.

There you go. being a boxer is one thing, but a senator is even greater responsibility. I do think that Pacquiao don't have the time anymore to really focus and concentrate on this boxing career because he's priority is to be the law maker. Remember, he is elected by the people, so he should do his duty first to served them above all, including boxing. I speculate that this things has somewhat affected his training resulting in a lost. So I'm for him to really quit boxing or just take a breather and do his duty as elected official of the Philippines.

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Quote from: milewilda on July 16, 2017, 10:33:49 PM

This thread should be close since the fight is over and what done is done already and we cant change those decision even myself do believe that pacquiao do won that fight but judges decision would really remain final even no matter how much we do argue on this matter but still it cant change everything.If there would be a rematch then it would be a nice fight if horn will fight fairly.

I don't think that it should be closed already, it's just a discussion and nothing will ever change the outcome because it's already there and that's just what should be done, to know the reality of losing. It's just a matter of time to make a comeback but I don't think Pacquiao can focus all of his efforts to Boxing alone, knowing that he's a senator in the Philippines.

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This thread should be close since the fight is over and what done is done already and we cant change those decision even myself do believe that pacquiao do won that fight but judges decision would really remain final even no matter how much we do argue on this matter but still it cant change everything.If there would be a rematch then it would be a nice fight if horn will fight fairly.

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Quote from: supine on July 16, 2017, 02:53:51 PM

I think that Pacquiao really won the fight, everyone saw it. Even the commentators said it. Even other professional athletes think that Pacquiao was robed on that fight.

Yeah i watched the fight and i think there is a fraudulent decision in pacman and horn fight..
As you can seen horn is not a good fighter hes always headbutt pacman that really gives him bleed to his face. because they know pacquiao is weak after he is getting headbutt remember the other old fight like in may weather..

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 16, 2017, 05:06:23 PM

Quote from: supine on July 16, 2017, 02:53:51 PM

I think that Pacquiao really won the fight, everyone saw it. Even the commentators said it. Even other professional athletes think that Pacquiao was robed on that fight.

Yes, we all know that Manny Pacquiao really won the fights will a lot of fight fans and even to other athletes who have seen the fight. But what really matters is the scorecard of the judges, who show that Pacquiao was behind on the scorecards, that why they have called the fight a robbery. We can't do anything about it. Even the so called protest did not favor him. Is their a rematch, I think so. But for me, he should really just concentrate on his political career in the native Philippines, he doesn't need to proved anything. He has done everything 8 division champ, fighter of the decade and numerous boxer of the year awards. That's why its better to hang the gloves now while he is still on top.

The problem is we are not a judge, their decision is in favor and Horn and it was reviewed by WBO and according to them Horn won the fight so let's stop thinking of it anymore and respect their decision so we can move on. We cannot really expect a fair decision because this type of sports are also back with big money coming from bets or wherever it may, hence it could affect the decision of the judge in they have to serve the interest of someone.
I'm expecting a rematch so this debate will end and I hope that time there will be no more controversies, hopefully we can see a knockout so it's convincing.

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Quote from: supine on July 16, 2017, 02:53:51 PM

I think that Pacquiao really won the fight, everyone saw it. Even the commentators said it. Even other professional athletes think that Pacquiao was robed on that fight.

Yes, we all know that Manny Pacquiao really won the fights will a lot of fight fans and even to other athletes who have seen the fight. But what really matters is the scorecard of the judges, who show that Pacquiao was behind on the scorecards, that why they have called the fight a robbery. We can't do anything about it. Even the so called protest did not favor him. Is their a rematch, I think so. But for me, he should really just concentrate on his political career in the native Philippines, he doesn't need to proved anything. He has done everything 8 division champ, fighter of the decade and numerous boxer of the year awards. That's why its better to hang the gloves now while he is still on top.

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I think that Pacquiao really won the fight, everyone saw it. Even the commentators said it. Even other professional athletes think that Pacquiao was robed on that fight.

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Quote from: bering on July 16, 2017, 01:07:06 PM

i just watching the sport news that WBO has granted Pacquiao wish to investigated the results match between him and Horn although whatever the results of this investigated he still lost his title but at least Pacquiao will get justice however is there any possibility for rematch for both of them

I think the result what already out mate. The WBO stay firms with the decision that Horn won the fight. But I don't know if they are going to be a rematch. But honestly, I don't want a rematch. For me, Pacquiao needs to retire, he has seen better days. And I think Manny, doesn't have the love from Bob Arum anymore, and also believes that Arum thinks he is not the cash cow that he use to be. For sure Arum is looking for a new one and maybe he is building Horn as the heir apparent. But I seriously doubt it will happen though, he will lose his fight defense title specially if he go out to fight in the US and not in Australia.

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i just watching the sport news that WBO has granted Pacquiao wish to investigated the results match between him and Horn although whatever the results of this investigated he still lost his title but at least Pacquiao will get justice however is there any possibility for rematch for both of them

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Quote from: Hydrogen on July 15, 2017, 06:15:24 PM

I wonder if politics factors into the bad decision.

The philippines are @ war with ISIS and islamic radicals. They're not taking an open border policy like france, uk, germany, italy.

Manny Pacquiao also avoids fighting in Las Vegas as judges robbed him before in his fight with Timothy Bradley.

Pacquiao also said Vegas taxes are too high. That could be why he fought Horn in australia.

This is a nice theory, it seems they want to force Pacman to retire by doing robbery after robbery that way Pacman will have nothing else to do but to retire, also it may be possible that Australia simply paid more money to host the fight than Las Vegas was willing and that is why Pacman accepted to fight there.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on July 15, 2017, 06:15:24 PM

I wonder if politics factors into the bad decision.

The philippines are @ war with ISIS and islamic radicals. They're not taking an open border policy like france, uk, germany, italy.

Manny Pacquiao also avoids fighting in Las Vegas as judges robbed him before in his fight with Timothy Bradley.

Pacquiao also said Vegas taxes are too high. That could be why he fought Horn in australia.

Oh, I see. Since Las Vegas is known as the "Sin City" for it has been greatly known because all vices can be experienced in there. So, they have to find another place where they can match up and lessen the tax expenses.

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I wonder if politics factors into the bad decision.

The philippines are @ war with ISIS and islamic radicals. They're not taking an open border policy like france, uk, germany, italy.

Manny Pacquiao also avoids fighting in Las Vegas as judges robbed him before in his fight with Timothy Bradley.

Pacquiao also said Vegas taxes are too high. That could be why he fought Horn in australia.

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Quote from: masterwakokok7 on July 02, 2017, 09:42:26 AM

Did Horn really won this fight? or Pacquiao just got robbed again? Do Horn really deserve the hate, he's getting right now? or Is it the time for the People's Champ to retire?

To all those who bet on this match, any thoughts on how the fight ends? I myself can't believe the results of this match even though I bet for Horn, I should be happy but no.

The result of the fight was a disgrace to the sport, this was nothing more than armed robbery and to try to hype this new boxer, also it was incredible the amount of cheating that it was allowed by the referee and not a single point was deducted to horn, it was disgraceful.

I agree mate. Even a kid knows that the fight has been manipulated. Pacman should be the one who won this match and no doubt about it. I really hope there's a rematch soon so that we woyld really know whose the real champ for this fight.

To be honest, I don’t remember seeing a fight where I was so enraged by what was happening, it is obvious that Pacman was not in the best shape in his career and that maybe it is time to retire, but that was not boxing, there are rules in the sport and that Horn broke almost all the rules.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 14, 2017, 08:11:21 AM

Quote from: jossiel on July 14, 2017, 08:01:22 AM

Guys this game is already over and there is something on hype now.

Manny did accepted his defeat on this match and let's just respect the decision.

Go on hype with Conor and Mayweather. Grin

we can compare what would happen this coming august if mayweather lose it will be more interesting then manny will fight him again just thinking
for a much better showdown instead of having a rematch with there previous fight why not wbo just make another hype with this two good fighter
instead of playing fools with the boxing fans. just saying guys.

I don't think so that Mayweather is going to take the deal between him and Manny.

It's better to see Manny retire already and stop entering the boxing industry anymore, he's a billionaire already.

And has a lot of careers in the Philippines.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on July 14, 2017, 02:39:24 PM

Quote from: masterwakokok7 on July 02, 2017, 09:42:26 AM

Did Horn really won this fight? or Pacquiao just got robbed again? Do Horn really deserve the hate, he's getting right now? or Is it the time for the People's Champ to retire?

To all those who bet on this match, any thoughts on how the fight ends? I myself can't believe the results of this match even though I bet for Horn, I should be happy but no.

The result of the fight was a disgrace to the sport, this was nothing more than armed robbery and to try to hype this new boxer, also it was incredible the amount of cheating that it was allowed by the referee and not a single point was deducted to horn, it was disgraceful.

I agree mate. Even a kid knows that the fight has been manipulated. Pacman should be the one who won this match and no doubt about it. I really hope there's a rematch soon so that we woyld really know whose the real champ for this fight.

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