Topic: (over)population - doomsters vs boomsters - page 2. (Read 242 times)

I saw those tweets when Elon made them and it just made me think about the countless things this guy says on topics he really had no expertise in. I think it’s extremely easy to see this world of over populated, otherwise we’d have a fraction of the issues we face today. There will always be enough of us idiots as long as we aren’t wiped out by ourselves or natural forces.

You can't trust anything coming out of Elon's pie hole. He is a permanent troll and because of this, his words has no meaning. Even if this was his honest opinion, then you cannot really know it and that makes his thoughts worthless.

My opinion is same with the doomers. Especially the Middle East and the Asia needs some population adjustments. Look at India and China. They multiply like... whatever.

Bill Gates failed us 

I think the decrease or increase in human population both have advantages and disadvantages for life, for example in Japan, where the population decline due to the declining birth rate will affect their production in the future, the advantage if the population increases it can increase production even though it will make it higher pollution level due to energy consumption will increase too.

But I believe with this, because the earth and humans need balance, population growth if it is not followed by an increase in food production will only increase poverty and difficulty living

The issue IMO is not overpopulation or underpopulation. All around the world, people with high IQ are being replaced with people with lower IQ. Population growth is taking place in regions such as Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle-East, where the people are illiterate and unskilled. On the other hand, maximum population decline is being noted in regions such as East Asia (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea.etc), where there is 100% literacy. In the long term, this brings down the levels of human innovation. 

In terms of population, nature has its way. The growth may seem unsustainable but, so far, it has yet to reach a breaking point. If that catastrophic level is finally reached then food and water and other basic necessities would grow very scarce. There would be famine. Crimes would be widespread. There will be diseases. There will be wars. In other words, death and destruction will be all over. So the population would naturally go down as a result. With a smaller population, things would begin to recover. Abundance would ensue. And so the cycle continues.

Overpopulation is simply a situation where the earth cannot produce what is needed to sustain its inhabitants at a given period of time. The doomers  and the boomers view of population are both correct. Due to greed and excessive quest for power and influence the world would keep experiencing wars and conflicts. Although the earth has enough resources to sustain its inhabitants, wars and conflict tend to destabilize the worlds population and make it seem like overpopulation is a problem. Hence,the doomers should know that overpopulation is not the reason why illegal immigrants are risking their lives to migrate to seek perceived greener pastures but the inability of world leaders to curb conflict and greed.

The boomers are correct because birth rate in Europe, America and some part of Asia is dropping drastically. These underpopulated nations would need to depend on the so called overpopulated nations to balance their economic activities.

I think the current growth of population in most underdeveloped nation would reduce drastically in future. As nations begin to embrace flexible stance towards abortion, with the spread of female education and freedom from some archaic cultural beliefs the population of the world would reduce to a large extent.      

For years we've heard faint rumblings of hive collapse in bee colonies. Disappearing monarch butterflies. Plastic littering the oceans. There is a legitimate concern for global species collapse. We depend on insects and nature for food. If that relationship were threatened with major collapse. There would be no alternatives. Nature has a monopoly over our food, water and air.

There are many hollywood films claiming aliens or a zombie apocalypse are the biggest threats to civilization. A case could be made for mismanagement of land, ocean and resources being the biggest threat to our future.

We're lucky that survival on the planet has become easier in ways. We have many opportunities and advantages over those who lived in previous eras. We tend to forget that those of past times recognized the need for balance in ecosystems. Like the train in snowpiercer, they would allow hunting during some times. And ban it during others. Depending on animal populations. Waging warfare was often done on a basis of wiping out the land and nature of the opposition. Where they would salt the earth to prevent them from growing crops. And kill their livestock to prevent them from having food to eat.

People have become disconnected from their survival being reliant upon nature. And it has not been a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1AaZ9OkH8

An interesting video on the topic of potential overpopulation of Earth. The doomers say that the growth is unsustainable and will result in a catastrophe, the boomers like Elon Musk are saying that we actually need more people and that society will crumble if population will keep declining, like it does in many countries.

The conclusion of this video is that most scientist think that the global population will grow at little bit more and then will shrink a little bit and stabilize around the sustainable level.

What do you think?