Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino.
When I mentioned unfair terms and conditions, it can mean many different things. For instance, some casinos are ok if you wager your deposits 0.5-1x if you are betting on sports. But I have also seen certain brands require 3x. That's quite a big difference and is something I consider to be unfair. If there are casinos that remain in business for years requiring a 0.5-1x wagering requirement of your deposits, there is no need to ask players to roll over their deposits 3 times. There are, of course, other examples as well, like betting limits and placing unfair minimum bets on player accounts, etc.
Topic: [Overview] Comprehensive list of Crypto Sportsbooks -!New Poll!- (Read 2175 times)
February 03, 2024, 04:09:51 AM
February 03, 2024, 03:41:42 AM
It's really tough to just go by the ToS. Some books say that they may require a 5x if they suspect using a mixer. The book may never use that clause, but it's still there. They also don't have to prove mixer use, they can just say they suspect it. If they actually require a 5x that something that could be acknowledged in a review.
That's a good example. If that point is there, the casino has the right to take advantage of it. Whether they will use said right is their discretion. It's certainly something I would consider unfair. And if you think about it, any use of a casino with crypto can be considered mixing your coins. You deposit your coins, which go into a big pool with those of other players and when you request a withdrawal, you get back something completely different with a different history behind it. You mixed your coins.The same goes for confiscation of dormant accounts. The clause is there but may never be used.
I have noticed that with certain casinos while doing my checks for my Withdrawal Fees thread. My dummy accounts created only for that purpose suddenly stopped working in some instances. That means they deleted it from their systems after x amount of months without real use. It's not a problem, as long as they don't confiscate your deposits or winnings with it. But online casinos also have dormant account fees. That's something that could be considered unfair. At least, it's in the grey area.
February 02, 2024, 06:58:05 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll most likely just do that. Luckily Maverick and Roobet work just fine in my location, so if they do ask for KYC, it should be a problem. I will try to do 1 review per week and start with Stake. I have extensively used Stake as a sportsbook over the past year or so and it will be comparatively easy for me to kick things off. I see that you've started writing reviews on sportsbooks as well and it's nice to see. Looking forward to more reviews in the future.
Some casinos have different website domains available in different regions, like Stake does with .us domain, so remember to check that if something is not available in your country.And since you are doing this for the purpose of review and rating I don't think that using a vpn would be such a big problem, unless you plan to use that website long term.
Casinos way of asking for kyc should be important part of your reviews.
February 02, 2024, 02:45:39 PM
Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino.
When I mentioned unfair terms and conditions, it can mean many different things. For instance, some casinos are ok if you wager your deposits 0.5-1x if you are betting on sports. But I have also seen certain brands require 3x. That's quite a big difference and is something I consider to be unfair. If there are casinos that remain in business for years requiring a 0.5-1x wagering requirement of your deposits, there is no need to ask players to roll over their deposits 3 times. There are, of course, other examples as well, like betting limits and placing unfair minimum bets on player accounts, etc.It's really tough to just go by the ToS. Some books say that they may require a 5x if they suspect using a mixer. The book may never use that clause, but it's still there. They also don't have to prove mixer use, they can just say they suspect it. If they actually require a 5x that something that could be acknowledged in a review. The same goes for confiscation of dormant accounts. The clause is there but may never be used.
February 02, 2024, 12:30:20 PM
Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino.
When I mentioned unfair terms and conditions, it can mean many different things. For instance, some casinos are ok if you wager your deposits 0.5-1x if you are betting on sports. But I have also seen certain brands require 3x. That's quite a big difference and is something I consider to be unfair. If there are casinos that remain in business for years requiring a 0.5-1x wagering requirement of your deposits, there is no need to ask players to roll over their deposits 3 times. There are, of course, other examples as well, like betting limits and placing unfair minimum bets on player accounts, etc. February 01, 2024, 11:47:23 PM
If you want to do things differently and be unique compared to the competition, you could focus a bit more on what you don't like about a specific crypto casino. Each review is usually about the good, but very few reviews have a well thought-out 'the bad' or 'what casino X could do better' section. In it, you can mention some things you didn't like. It could be anything like slow-loading pages, outdated UI, high wagering requirements, small welcome bonus, unfair T&Cs, etc.
Of all that you've mentioned, I believe that the unfair Terms and Conditions is probably is the most difficult thing that you can be different when it comes to other casinos because as much as you want to attract players with a fair and almost favoring them T&C, the need for the upkeep and survivability of the business would be the priority of any business owner and so there's just some terms and conditions that the players need to agree upon no matter what because doing so would be detrimental to the profits or the reputation of the casino. Slow loading pages if I recall has something to do with the Internet of the users mostly so I don't think that it's something that can be easily fixed, I don't have any web development expertise so I'm not entirely sure that this problem is out of our hands. When it comes to outdated UI, just put a big funding on your web developing department, you pay good and you get a good website. 
February 01, 2024, 08:23:55 PM
You can use a VPN, then deposit and withdraw a small amount. The only two that will bother you are Maverick Games and Roobet. The rest of them aren't going to ask for KYC.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll most likely just do that. Luckily Maverick and Roobet work just fine in my location, so if they do ask for KYC, it should be a problem. I will try to do 1 review per week and start with Stake. I have extensively used Stake as a sportsbook over the past year or so and it will be comparatively easy for me to kick things off. I see that you've started writing reviews on sportsbooks as well and it's nice to see. Looking forward to more reviews in the future. January 31, 2024, 01:21:17 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll get to work over the weekend. I have a plan in mind, involving the patrons of 1 sportsbook(each week) on bitcointalk to write their pros and cons of using the sportsbook, in this thread.
snipYou can use a VPN, then deposit and withdraw a small amount. The only two that will bother you are Maverick Games and Roobet. The rest of them aren't going to ask for KYC.
January 29, 2024, 09:53:09 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll get to work over the weekend. I have a plan in mind, involving the patrons of 1 sportsbook(each week) on bitcointalk to write their pros and cons of using the sportsbook, in this thread.
Aren't you a sports bettor too? The best thing would be to verify the pros and cons by yourself. You have to observe the odds, benefits and betting market of a bookie in every week (by placing bets), then make a short list of their pros and cons based on your betting experience. Another forum member has reviewed a lot of casinos and rated them based on his own experience (see here). You may follow his pattern to compare the sportsbooks.
January 26, 2024, 09:05:56 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll get to work over the weekend. I have a plan in mind, involving the patrons of 1 sportsbook(each week) on bitcointalk to write their pros and cons of using the sportsbook, in this thread.
Aren't you a sports bettor too? The best thing would be to verify the pros and cons by yourself. You have to observe the odds, benefits and betting market of a bookie in every week (by placing bets), then make a short list of their pros and cons based on your betting experience. Another forum member has reviewed a lot of casinos and rated them based on his own experience (see here). You may follow his pattern to compare the sportsbooks. 
January 23, 2024, 02:24:00 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll get to work over the weekend. I have a plan in mind, involving the patrons of 1 sportsbook(each week) on bitcointalk to write their pros and cons of using the sportsbook, in this thread. So I can get some honest reviews of people who consistently use the sportsbook. Or, Write the review first, and then ask the partons, if the review is accurate and what pros and cons am I missing, that is crucial for everyone to know.
This is a good plan. Honest, unbiased reviews are tough to find these days which is why this strategy of yours could be effective as long as there are plenty of such reviews in this particular thread.Also, don't worry about making enemies because this is Bitcointalk where free speech is literally everything.
January 22, 2024, 10:41:04 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll get to work over the weekend. I have a plan in mind, involving the patrons of 1 sportsbook(each week) on bitcointalk to write their pros and cons of using the sportsbook, in this thread. So I can get some honest reviews of people who consistently use the sportsbook. Or, Write the review first, and then ask the patrons, if the review is accurate and what pros and cons am I missing, that is crucial for everyone to know.
PS: Please do vote, if you still haven't. Polls are still inconclusive on whether I should add reviews or not. Need more data!!
PS: Please do vote, if you still haven't. Polls are still inconclusive on whether I should add reviews or not. Need more data!!
January 22, 2024, 01:16:53 AM
I am willing to share my honest opinions on every sportsbook on bitcointalk, but I don’t want to make enemies here. Since many of them have signature campaigns, I’m sure it will offend a lot of people who'd feel obliged to represent the sportsbook in their signature. Will just add constructive criticism unless there are many scam accusations on a respective sportsbook.
That is fine.Writing cons and pros is not going to create any enemies, it can only help improve casinos and make them better.
It is best to be neutral if possible, but I always publicly wrote my bad and good experience with all casinos I used.
This is the best way to give honest feedback, and I would not accept money to change my opinion
Though I understand the fears, because there are some persons that would want to gain cheap recognition by bashing another just because whatever honest opinion as given doesn't go down well with a casino they represent or are nursing an interest to represent it in signature and they would want to stand in the gap to attack you in order to gain a cheap recognition. But be it as it may, we shouldn't be afraid to deliver honest informations whether people will like it or not. But a casino that wants to improve and be in the vanguard among other casinos in the industry will always be open to constructive honest criticism as to build on those gaps and lapses
January 21, 2024, 07:15:41 PM
I am willing to share my honest opinions on every sportsbook on bitcointalk, but I don’t want to make enemies here. Since many of them have signature campaigns, I’m sure it will offend a lot of people who'd feel obliged to represent the sportsbook in their signature. Will just add constructive criticism unless there are many scam accusations on a respective sportsbook.
That is fine.Writing cons and pros is not going to create any enemies, it can only help improve casinos and make them better.
It is best to be neutral if possible, but I always publicly wrote my bad and good experience with all casinos I used.
This is the best way to give honest feedback, and I would not accept money to change my opinion
January 21, 2024, 09:57:33 AM
I dont trust most websites with rating and some forum members are even worse with their ratings.
Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
Lolz, money answereth all things, with money, a scam casinos can have the very best rating anybody can ever imagine, but this is mostly for review and rating sites out there and outside of this forum.Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
When it comes to this forum, I think we can be trusted, regardless of the fact that some members still would gladly take money to promote a well known scam, but this set is just minority looking a the overall total number of users of this forum, here, can be still find the best of casino reviews and ratings, ones that are really genuine and totally based on a user's experience, not one altered or influenced by money or some other gifts like bonuses or free spin etc.
Users outside this forum though are relying on reviews and rating sites. One thing that I see is that some of them only register here to create a scam accusation thread but it was already late since they already lost money.
But I think all sportsbook that have been running for a long time will not risk their reputation to scam as they have invested so much in the business already. It's the new ones that are to watch out for as users will have no idea when they are going to just snap all of a sudden.
January 20, 2024, 11:02:09 AM
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It is very hard to get an unbiased opinion on anything, honestly. Anyways, looking at the voting, it seems like people don't really want reviews. Just the list seems fine. So, I'm not gonna bother researching through every sportsbook on the list as of now. Would love it if more people voted in though. Let's see.
You definitely need thick skin at first to do ratings and reviews. As you said if they get paid by another site, they are going to criticize your ratings. Some may even stalk you. With the ratings I do in 10 years there hasn't been 1 "A" or "B" rated book that's gone under with our money. Some still criticize and stalk but after a while you figure out why they are doing it and it really doesn't bother you. There have been 50, almost all "D" and "F" , a couple "C" such as Betnomi, that are out of business and most with our money. One is still open right now Coins.game that's "F". Your thread is great with or without reviews.
January 20, 2024, 10:43:54 AM
I dont trust most websites with rating and some forum members are even worse with their ratings.
Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
I am willing to share my honest opinions on every sportsbook on bitcointalk, but I don’t want to make enemies here. Since many of them have signature campaigns, I’m sure it will offend a lot of people who'd feel obliged to represent the sportsbook in their signature. Will just add constructive criticism unless there are many scam accusations on a respective sportsbook.Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
Lolz, money answereth all things, with money, a scam casinos can have the very best rating anybody can ever imagine, but this is mostly for review and rating sites out there and outside of this forum.
When it comes to this forum, I think we can be trusted, regardless of the fact that some members still would gladly take money to promote a well known scam, but this set is just minority looking a the overall total number of users of this forum, here, can be still find the best of casino reviews and ratings, ones that are really genuine and totally based on a user's experience, not one altered or influenced by money or some other gifts like bonuses or free spin etc.
It is very hard to get an unbiased opinion on anything, honestly. Anyways, looking at the voting, it seems like people don't really want reviews. Just the list seems fine. So, I'm not gonna bother researching through every sportsbook on the list as of now. Would love it if more people voted in though. Let's see. When it comes to this forum, I think we can be trusted, regardless of the fact that some members still would gladly take money to promote a well known scam, but this set is just minority looking a the overall total number of users of this forum, here, can be still find the best of casino reviews and ratings, ones that are really genuine and totally based on a user's experience, not one altered or influenced by money or some other gifts like bonuses or free spin etc.
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January 20, 2024, 03:53:06 AM
I dont trust most websites with rating and some forum members are even worse with their ratings.
Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
Lolz, money answereth all things, with money, a scam casinos can have the very best rating anybody can ever imagine, but this is mostly for review and rating sites out there and outside of this forum.Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
When it comes to this forum, I think we can be trusted, regardless of the fact that some members still would gladly take money to promote a well known scam, but this set is just minority looking a the overall total number of users of this forum, here, can be still find the best of casino reviews and ratings, ones that are really genuine and totally based on a user's experience, not one altered or influenced by money or some other gifts like bonuses or free spin etc.
January 19, 2024, 06:29:35 PM
I dont trust most websites with rating and some forum members are even worse with their ratings.
Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
Most of the times there is money involved and money easily moves places and ratings
Your updated comprehensive list looks good, and only thing I would like to see is positive and negative sides for each casino.
January 19, 2024, 12:24:45 PM
Updated some of Nitrobetting's additional notes by going through their thread. They are not available in my region, so, I'm not able to test them out. It is also against their TOS to use VPN while using their service. So, I'm not going to risk it and try them out, until I move to Europe or countries where they are available. If anyone uses Nitrobetting (and BK8) here, would be great if you could help me add more info there is. Thanks in advance.
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