Overview of Active Casino/Dice Sites Accepting BTC - page 3.

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Quote from: TheQuin on September 01, 2018, 05:44:36 AM

Quote from: Samarkand on September 01, 2018, 03:44:57 AM

I suspect that more people at least subconsciously think about the house edge than you think.
This is why many players prefer games like Roulette or Baccarat to traditional slot machines, because
these slot machines obviously have a terrible house edge in general (e.g. at brick and mortar
casinos slots sometimes have a house edge of up to 30 % in my country, which is ridiculous).

I think that a lot of it comes down to game choice more than house edge. Roulette is a far more entertaining game than slots or dice in my opinion so I play it even though I know it has a higher house edge.

15% is normal for slots in my country. Why do the casinos (brick and mortar) not compete and advertise a lower house edge than their rivals? The advertise promotions and giveaways because that's what brings people in, not a 0.x% better house edge.

For some fiat casino you can say that most of them are choosing game instead of house edge but on bitcoin world you should really consider about house edge because most of them are using bot to play so house edge is really important to them. And most of them here can even calculate it well too or there is house edge calculator of you can't calculate it so everything is much more easier on crypto world

I still prefer house edge instead of variances of games. Of course there are many games fiat out there which is really attractive like roulette or may be blackjack but house edge does really matter imo if you want to play on crypto world

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Quote from: Samarkand on September 01, 2018, 03:44:57 AM

I suspect that more people at least subconsciously think about the house edge than you think.
This is why many players prefer games like Roulette or Baccarat to traditional slot machines, because
these slot machines obviously have a terrible house edge in general (e.g. at brick and mortar
casinos slots sometimes have a house edge of up to 30 % in my country, which is ridiculous).

I think that a lot of it comes down to game choice more than house edge. Roulette is a far more entertaining game than slots or dice in my opinion so I play it even though I know it has a higher house edge.

15% is normal for slots in my country. Why do the casinos (brick and mortar) not compete and advertise a lower house edge than their rivals? The advertise promotions and giveaways because that's what brings people in, not a 0.x% better house edge.

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Quote from: TheQuin on August 30, 2018, 04:03:14 AM

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I firmly suspect that more than 99% of gamblers either don't know what a house edge is or don't care about it if they do.

Then your ChipMixer colleague buwaytress is one of the other 1 % Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.400

Quote from: buwaytress on August 30, 2018, 09:51:04 AM

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If you're a sports bettor, or any kind of gambler, for that matter, then you only want the best odds. Call me a traditionalist but I've never been impressed by flash.
Talk to me odds and house edges, and there's where I put my money.
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I suspect that more people at least subconsciously think about the house edge than you think.
This is why many players prefer games like Roulette or Baccarat to traditional slot machines, because
these slot machines obviously have a terrible house edge in general (e.g. at brick and mortar
casinos slots sometimes have a house edge of up to 30 % in my country, which is ridiculous).

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Quote from: TheQuin on August 31, 2018, 09:41:53 AM

Quote from: STT on August 30, 2018, 08:43:01 PM

I'd argue the opposite as almost everyone knows the green pocket on the roulette wheel is where the house wins. Thats your classic house edge, the house gets a free ride on every spin and thats how they pay the bills

Not if you put a chip on 0. Wink

How many of them know it is 2.7% on roulette or double that on an American wheel? Not many I bet. How many people playing slots at a bricks and mortar casino ever ask the house what the edge is? It is often obsessed about on this forum and that maybe something to do with Bitcoin attracting a certain type of person but in the wider world it really isn't. Have a look on gambling forums and it is hardly ever discussed.

this is why this forum is a good place to educate yourself, among other things Grin

it amazes me when people play games they do not understand in and out
as for the affiliate column,think if you can fit it, it should be very helpful
some sites offer generous affiliate (20% of the house edge with up to 50% during promotions) and are well worth promoting
another suggestion- you might consider adding the faucet/play money column

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Quote from: STT on August 30, 2018, 08:43:01 PM

I'd argue the opposite as almost everyone knows the green pocket on the roulette wheel is where the house wins. Thats your classic house edge, the house gets a free ride on every spin and thats how they pay the bills

Not if you put a chip on 0. Wink

How many of them know it is 2.7% on roulette or double that on an American wheel? Not many I bet. How many people playing slots at a bricks and mortar casino ever ask the house what the edge is? It is often obsessed about on this forum and that maybe something to do with Bitcoin attracting a certain type of person but in the wider world it really isn't. Have a look on gambling forums and it is hardly ever discussed.

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 07, 2018, 11:07:26 AM

Just a suggestion though, decision is absolutely on your hands as you are the one who manage this topic. And thanks for creating this thread, it helps the gambling community to find the available bitcoin casinos easier in one place.

Surprised this is a new thread, maybe an older list just became redundant after the decline of 2013/14. Quite a few sites I used many years ago are no more but then I had stopped using them so that figures.
Great idea to help out the newer members identify reputations and basic details of the various sites

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I firmly suspect that more than 99% of gamblers either don't know what a house edge is or don't care about it if they do.

I'd argue the opposite as almost everyone knows the green pocket on the roulette wheel is where the house wins. Thats your classic house edge, the house gets a free ride on every spin and thats how they pay the bills

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Quote from: buwaytress on August 30, 2018, 02:02:10 AM

Touching on affiliate numbers, I wonder if edge still plays a big role in proper gamblers wanting to do long term play. From what I've learnt (unscientific of course) from successful affiliates, very few referred players stay on once they've made their big wins/big busts and edge doesn't quite matter to them as much as how much they can win from their play and how likely they are to be able to withdraw without issues.

I firmly suspect that more than 99% of gamblers either don't know what a house edge is or don't care about it if they do.

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Quote from: Hhampuz on August 29, 2018, 06:22:21 PM

Quote from: s0lidus on August 29, 2018, 06:20:35 PM

Looks good, but the Alt section takes quite some space I see. Maybe an idea to display the alts on mouseover to save some space using abbreviation or acronym code. For example:

\|	Alts	\|
\|	Yes	\|
\|	N/A	\|

That way you can make some space for a new column for affiliate program or whatever.

(Just an idea)

Oh wow, you learn something new everyday, huh?

I was completely unaware that you could do that. I appreciate it and I'll get on it straight away to change it, will make the list a lot more appealing that's for sure

That makes me two for that... I'm like learning two or three things new every day! Thanks @soli for pointing that out (Sojourner from CGN here).

As Quin pointed out, commissions should specify how much of the edge goes to the referrer, then they should be able to see for themselves what kind of #s this translates to. I've had virtually zero success with referring people to bitcoin gambling, even had a bout of several months trying to promote new sites, with next to no results.

Touching on affiliate numbers, I wonder if edge still plays a big role in proper gamblers wanting to do long term play. From what I've learnt (unscientific of course) from successful affiliates, very few referred players stay on once they've made their big wins/big busts and edge doesn't quite matter to them as much as how much they can win from their play and how likely they are to be able to withdraw without issues.

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Meh.

Quote from: s0lidus on August 29, 2018, 06:20:35 PM

Looks good, but the Alt section takes quite some space I see. Maybe an idea to display the alts on mouseover to save some space using abbreviation or acronym code. For example:

\|	Alts	\|
\|	Yes	\|
\|	N/A	\|

That way you can make some space for a new column for affiliate program or whatever.

(Just an idea)

Oh wow, you learn something new everyday, huh?

I was completely unaware that you could do that. I appreciate it and I'll get on it straight away to change it, will make the list a lot more appealing that's for sure

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Looks good, but the Alt section takes quite some space I see. Maybe an idea to display the alts on mouseover to save some space using abbreviation or acronym code. For example:

|

Alts

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Meh.

I'll make sure to finish most of the "to-do list" this week. If I don't, feel free to yell at me Cheesy

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Meh.

Perhaps I should include the % people can get with each affiliate, if I can get enough room to fit it. Shouldn't be too much of an issue though.

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Quote from: NewCryptocasinos on August 24, 2018, 04:30:42 AM

Quote from: hulla on August 24, 2018, 04:27:25 AM

Quote from: NewCryptocasinos on August 24, 2018, 01:19:35 AM

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Since we are talking about affiliate program, I have a question.
What is a good affiliate deal for a Crypto Dice site? I got an offer yesterday of 0,2% per bet, for me that sound pretty low?

The last time I checked most crypto dice site good affiliation deal start from 20-30% while the maximum commission by all crypto dice site was 50%.
Concerning the offer you're talking about, you're ought to be pay in percent not per player.

OK good to know, Thank you

A couple of examples. Freebitco.in pays 0.4% of the amount wagered and Crypto-Games pays 25% of house edge, so that varies depending on the game played.

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Quote from: hulla on August 24, 2018, 04:27:25 AM

Quote from: NewCryptocasinos on August 24, 2018, 01:19:35 AM

Quote from: hulla on August 24, 2018, 01:07:48 AM

Quote from: Hhampuz on August 23, 2018, 10:41:53 PM

As one member pointed out a column for "Affiliate Program" might be needed on this list. What do the rest of you think? I know most of the well known casinos have them, but not all do.

Will add to "to do list" for now.

We both know that the power of ads/news is so strong and easily to spread. Therefore, I think that the affiliate program will be a good idea since some of the listed casino are yet to receive license. Besides, the program will generate more $$ for both side (product/company owners and the affiliate marketers).

Since we are talking about affiliate program, I have a question.
What is a good affiliate deal for a Crypto Dice site? I got an offer yesterday of 0,2% per bet, for me that sound pretty low?

The last time I checked most crypto dice site good affiliation deal start from 20-30% while the maximum commission by all crypto dice site was 50%.
Concerning the offer you're talking about, you're ought to be pay in percent not per player.

OK good to know, Thank you

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Quote from: NewCryptocasinos on August 24, 2018, 01:19:35 AM

Quote from: hulla on August 24, 2018, 01:07:48 AM

Quote from: Hhampuz on August 23, 2018, 10:41:53 PM

As one member pointed out a column for "Affiliate Program" might be needed on this list. What do the rest of you think? I know most of the well known casinos have them, but not all do.

Will add to "to do list" for now.

We both know that the power of ads/news is so strong and easily to spread. Therefore, I think that the affiliate program will be a good idea since some of the listed casino are yet to receive license. Besides, the program will generate more $$ for both side (product/company owners and the affiliate marketers).

Since we are talking about affiliate program, I have a question.
What is a good affiliate deal for a Crypto Dice site? I got an offer yesterday of 0,2% per bet, for me that sound pretty low?

The last time I checked most crypto dice site good affiliation deal start from 20-30% while the maximum commission by all crypto dice site was 50%.
Concerning the offer you're talking about, you're ought to be pay in percent not per player.

Edit : but I don't know if they still make use of the percent now and I will advice you to use popular/license crypto dice site

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Quote from: hulla on August 24, 2018, 01:07:48 AM

Quote from: Hhampuz on August 23, 2018, 10:41:53 PM

As one member pointed out a column for "Affiliate Program" might be needed on this list. What do the rest of you think? I know most of the well known casinos have them, but not all do.

Will add to "to do list" for now.

We both know that the power of ads/news is so strong and easily to spread. Therefore, I think that the affiliate program will be a good idea since some of the listed casino are yet to receive license. Besides, the program will generate more $$ for both side (product/company owners and the affiliate marketers).

Since we are talking about affiliate program, I have a question.
What is a good affiliate deal for a Crypto Dice site? I got an offer yesterday of 0,2% per bet, for me that sound pretty low?

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Quote from: Hhampuz on August 23, 2018, 10:41:53 PM

As one member pointed out a column for "Affiliate Program" might be needed on this list. What do the rest of you think? I know most of the well known casinos have them, but not all do.

Will add to "to do list" for now.

We both know that the power of ads/news is so strong and easily to spread. Therefore, I think that the affiliate program will be a good idea since some of the listed casino are yet to receive license. Besides, the program will generate more $$ for both side (product/company owners and the affiliate marketers).

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Meh.

As one member pointed out a column for "Affiliate Program" might be needed on this list. What do the rest of you think? I know most of the well known casinos have them, but not all do.

Will add to "to do list" for now.

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Meh.

Quote from: TheQuin on August 22, 2018, 01:11:45 AM

Quote from: Hhampuz on August 21, 2018, 08:06:26 PM

The reason I was asking for links was that I wanted to put links to all the "Yes's" on the list so that people could have easy access to it (although most of them already do).

The information is mainly in the faq but you can't link to the relevant section directly.

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq#

Or you could link to the invest page.

https://www.crypto-games.net/account/invest

Thank you TheQuin, I appreciate all the help

Quote from: Samarkand on August 22, 2018, 05:10:54 AM

You could add another column to your table in order to point
out idiosyncracies of the respective Casino/Dice site.

E.g. Crypto-Games has a rule that prevents you from opening
a new account, which is rather rare with anonymous Bitcoin
gambling sites. Most BTC gambling sites allow you to open up as many accounts
as you like unless you do this to abuse promotions.

From their FAQ:

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Can I have multiple accounts?
No, only one account per person is allowed. Players with multiple accounts will be blocked and all funds,
including investments, will be confiscated.

I'm not too sure about adding that information, from my own experience, most casinos that I've registered at have this rule (even anonymous ones). But I could perhaps add a "FAQ" column, will see

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