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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 26, 2019, 03:57:58 AM

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on October 26, 2019, 03:34:50 AM

When you say that chrome send the data back to google, does this means it also sends our passwords for gmail, facebook, bitcointalk etc to google ?

Yup. You can see for yourself here: https://passwords.google.com/

Sign in, and see every password you have ever saved in Chrome displayed on a website and loaded from their servers. If you use Chrome, Google knows every site you visit, every page and image you look at, every keystroke you enter, every file you download/upload, all your passwords, your location, and more, and it's all linked to your email (which they read) and potentially your real identity. Chrome is spyware. Why anyone would voluntarily use it is beyond me. You are giving your entire life over to Google to do what they like with it.

That's a Password Manager and purpose of password manager is to store the passwords. This does not mean that these passwords are visible to the google.They are all encrypted. If it was such a case then we would have seen so many passwords breaches.
Yes, they do spy our actions and which websites we visits and can prepare the analytical data, but our passwords are safe on google password manager.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on October 26, 2019, 03:34:50 AM

When you say that chrome send the data back to google, does this means it also sends our passwords for gmail, facebook, bitcointalk etc to google ?

Yup. You can see for yourself here: https://passwords.google.com/

Sign in, and see every password you have ever saved in Chrome displayed on a website and loaded from their servers. If you use Chrome, Google knows every site you visit, every page and image you look at, every keystroke you enter, every file you download/upload, all your passwords, your location, and more, and it's all linked to your email (which they read) and potentially your real identity. Chrome is spyware. Why anyone would voluntarily use it is beyond me. You are giving your entire life over to Google to do what they like with it.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 26, 2019, 03:20:12 AM

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on October 26, 2019, 03:08:57 AM

Chrome is literally spyware and sends everything you do online back to Google for collection, analysis, and sale to third parties.

When you say that chrome send the data back to google, does this means it also sends our passwords for gmail, facebook, bitcointalk etc to google ?

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on October 26, 2019, 03:08:57 AM

So it means that firefox stands out from all the browsers and is the best ?

If i open 20 tabs on google chrome and firefox, which browser which be less resourse hungry and by how much percentage the one is better than the other ?

Chrome has a well deserved reputation as eating your RAM like there's no tomorrow, but things can vary massively on different hardware set ups and different operating systems. If you want accurate results for you, then simply download both, open the same 20 tabs in each, then open task manager/activity monitor/system monitor and see which one is using more resources.

Having said that, there's a lot more to consider when deciding which is "the best" browser than which is the least resource hungry. As long as you are running a fairly modern machine, then you shouldn't really notice any difference in system performance between different browsers. What is far more important is that Firefox is by far and away the best browser (not considering Tor) in terms of privacy, security, anti-tracking, anti-fingerprinting, and so forth. Chrome is literally spyware and sends everything you do online back to Google for collection, analysis, and sale to third parties.

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So it means that firefox stands out from all the browsers and is the best ?

If i open 20 tabs on google chrome and firefox, which browser which be less resourse hungry and by how much percentage the one is better than the other ?

Also where will you rate Edge browser ?

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Firefox latest version is live, Firefox 70, with new Privacy Protections. One more reason to use firefox

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2019/10/22/latest-firefox-brings-privacy-protections-front-and-center-letting-you-track-the-trackers/

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Our push this year has been building privacy-centric features in our products that are on by default. With this move, we’re taking the guesswork out of how to give yourself more privacy online thanks to always-on features like blocking third-party tracking cookies and cryptominers also known as Enhanced Tracking Protection. Since July 2 we’ve blocked more than 450 billion tracking requests that attempt to follow you around the web.
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But now with growing threats to your privacy, it’s clear that you need more visibility into how you’re being tracked online so you can better combat it. That’s why today we’re introducing a new feature that offers you a free report outlining the number of third-party and social media trackers blocked automatically by the Firefox browser with Enhanced Tracking Protection.

Look at this new report example

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Quote from: tranthidung on August 12, 2019, 09:51:59 PM

Firefox is the best, but I think if people don't want to do KYCs to get payments through BATs, they can keep using Brave browser. It is same as KYCs from blockchain.com or Coinbase if someone want to claim airdrops on their platforms. KYCs don't turn Blockchain.com or Coinbase into bad platforms, I believe. I have my solid perspective that I will not do KYCs if I don't have to mandatory to that. Example, with Binance, I simply use the lowest account level, which allows 2 BTC withdrawals maximum per day. That's fine enough, IMO.

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It's a shame, but if you don't use their BAT token & disable BAT feature, Brave is still good free/privacy-focused browser.

The problem imo is not the kyc to receive payments. They were forced to do that to comply with regulations, and that's fine.

The problem is that they advertise themselves as the privacy browser, that's their slogan. But when the first obstacle appeared, they just enforced kyx to everyone and forgot their principles and their slogan. But they kept calling themselves privacy focused....

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Quote from: bitmover on August 12, 2019, 09:15:34 PM

updating:

Brave, the privacy browser, requires KYC.

https://community.brave.com/t/uphold-kyc-know-your-customer-verification-is-now-required-in-order-to-receive-bat-publisher-payouts/42035/8

So, now I am 100% sure: Firefox forever. Just uninstalled my brave.

Firefox is the best, but I think if people don't want to do KYCs to get payments through BATs, they can keep using Brave browser. It is same as KYCs from blockchain.com or Coinbase if someone want to claim airdrops on their platforms. KYCs don't turn Blockchain.com or Coinbase into bad platforms, I believe. I have my solid perspective that I will not do KYCs if I don't have to mandatory to that. Example, with Binance, I simply use the lowest account level, which allows 2 BTC withdrawals maximum per day. That's fine enough, IMO.

People just easly fall into greedy with small bonuses, like Brave browser and BATs; and easily forget their main/ original purposes to use any platform (exchanges/ browsers, whatsoever).

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updating:

Brave, the privacy browser, requires KYC.

https://community.brave.com/t/uphold-kyc-know-your-customer-verification-is-now-required-in-order-to-receive-bat-publisher-payouts/42035/8

So, now I am 100% sure: Firefox forever. Just uninstalled my brave.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 23, 2019, 10:47:18 AM

DuckDuckGo android browser
https://duckduckgo.com/app

Does duckduckgo app for android provides TOR? If not, are there browser apps on Android devices that allow TOR? I don't know, so please help me if you know such TOR-accepted apps for Android. I felt a little bit unsafe when using mobile devices, but sometimes, I saw interesting posts, want to comments, and it is inconvenient if I have to turn on my computer or laptop to do this.

Not sure what are you afraid of when browsing on mobile but providing that your phone is not a rooted device, you're still under surveillance of Google. I had some bad experience with Tor. It loaded and feedbacked so slowly. Not sure if it's improved but I haven't tried it again since then. However, there's an Android version of Tor Browser, why don't you try it?

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 23, 2019, 11:13:42 AM

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 23, 2019, 10:47:18 AM

Waterfox browser

The problem with Waterfox is that it is run entirely by one guy, who pulls Firefox updates as and when he has the time to. You might end up waiting several days or even weeks for critical Firefox updates to find their way to Waterfox, so it does become a bit of a security risk. All the changes that Waterfox makes vis-à-vis privacy can also be applied to Firefox with a little bit of tweaking and some add ons. Here's the link to a post I made a couple of months ago with the relevant Firefox tweaks to improve privacy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50754832.
Another great resource for setting up Firefox is here: https://www.privacytools.io/browsers/

Support for legacy extensions is also available through Firefox ESR, so that's not a good reason for using Waterfox either.

I agree regarding Waterfox, BUT you can not fully remove Telemetry from Firefox.
Last version Waterfox 56.2.12 Released July 10, 2019
It is not my 1st choice browser, but I can use it as alternative.

One more good website is:
https://prism-break.org/en/all/#web-browsers

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 23, 2019, 10:47:18 AM

DuckDuckGo android browser
https://duckduckgo.com/app

Does duckduckgo app for android provides TOR? If not, are there browser apps on Android devices that allow TOR? I don't know, so please help me if you know such TOR-accepted apps for Android. I felt a little bit unsafe when using mobile devices, but sometimes, I saw interesting posts, want to comments, and it is inconvenient if I have to turn on my computer or laptop to do this.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 23, 2019, 10:47:18 AM

Waterfox browser

The problem with Waterfox is that it is run entirely by one guy, who pulls Firefox updates as and when he has the time to. You might end up waiting several days or even weeks for critical Firefox updates to find their way to Waterfox, so it does become a bit of a security risk. All the changes that Waterfox makes vis-à-vis privacy can also be applied to Firefox with a little bit of tweaking and some add ons. Here's the link to a post I made a couple of months ago with the relevant Firefox tweaks to improve privacy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50754832.
Another great resource for setting up Firefox is here: https://www.privacytools.io/browsers/

Support for legacy extensions is also available through Firefox ESR, so that's not a good reason for using Waterfox either.

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Remember that Mozilla also collects a lot of information with Telemetry.

Few more browsers I would add:

BitTube browser
based on Firefox + integrated adblocking extension based on uBlock that earns TUBE rewards.
https://bittubeapp.com/

Waterfox browser
fork of Firefox with removed Telemetry and Limited Data Collection
https://www.waterfox.net/

DuckDuckGo android browser
https://duckduckgo.com/app

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 22, 2019, 07:01:06 AM

I've been using brave for months now and I am really satisfied with the speed and the built in ad blocker.

Brave browser is also what a friend of mine recommends. And based on other's experiences using brave, I think I am now convinced to download and try it. I am currently using chrome because it's already installed here in my smartphone. Guess, I'm going to shift for security purposes.

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I've been using brave for months now and I am really satisfied with the speed and the built in ad blocker.

Quote from: TryNinja on June 19, 2019, 11:41:19 AM

There is also Vivaldi (based on Chromium). I like it quite a lot and started using it as one of my main browsers some months ago.

https://vivaldi.com/

Thanks for this. I was looking for an alternative for firefox as my second browser since it keeps crashing on my device. I hope it works well.

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The other problem is that hackers are targeting platforms with the most widely supported userbase, because they will have much more targets if they can execute a hack on a platform with the most users. Wink

I use several different browsers for different applications and some wesites just work better on specific browsers, so you have to switch to the browser that gives you the best result.

Most of the stuff I do happens within a virtual PC, so whatever they want to hack, will be gone by the time I restart the virtual sesssion. Tongue

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 19, 2019, 03:28:25 PM

In past I already said that I'm very surprised to see such huge dominance of Chrome in market of browsers.

How could you be?
There are thousands of articles about browsers that more or less state Chrome is the best browser out there. Most people would follow it and don't care about privacy and stuff that much. We have different knowledge and personally, it's understandable.

Nearly all of my friends use Chrome, and they don't realize the privacy issue. The reason is simple, they never read about it, and nobody ever talked to them about that. So they use it with ease.

But I've also seen so many articles where it's stated that Firefox is the best browser. I didn't expected that Chrome may have such huge dominance because probably only about 50% people that I know using. The rest are mainly using Firefox. But it's quite understandable that Chrome dominate because Google is super huge company compared to Mozilla and they can promote their product much better. And yeah, you're right, most of people aren't concerned about their privacy at all.

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I started to like brave browser.

It allows you to use it's normal browser and disables ads automatically. You can also use it's feature with TOR.

The bug that I've found upon opening this browser, sometimes it's not launching in the first try.

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I installed Vivaldi some months ago but there are things I dislike, I prefer Opera over it. Sometimes it starts to be slow after some times. In the url bar, at the right the page size displayed, it pisses me off. Only last week I found how to remove the left sidebar, good riddance. Too many updates also, almost every week. Ccleaner doesn't make a difference between Chrome and Vivaldi

I currently use Vivaldi, Opera, Chrome, Chrome Canary, Firefox, Midori.

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