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Topic: P2P gambling games - survey from creators (Read 284 times)

hero member
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January 05, 2022, 06:22:12 AM
#34
This is a good initiative that will help to arrange fair games. In my opinion, technology has been ready for a long time so that we can gamble on fully verifiable smart contracts. If you launch such a platform, many gamblers will be happy. I wish you good luck in implementing a P2P gambling platform.

Honestly p2p or pvp gambling platform is not really popular here. A simple example is pvp poker which is a famous pvp poker in this world and played by many people every day in online casino, but the opposite situation is happening in this crypto casino industry. There are many other example of failed p2p/pvp gambling platforms, OP should learn and do more researches on why those platform failed to survive.
sr. member
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January 05, 2022, 06:03:50 AM
#33
That is the question, we are wondering if the market needs it and if so, what other games could you offer?
Would you take part in the testnet?

It's really necessary to do it on actual and see if people will be able to attract. That's the challenge, how to lure users on your platform. Stage testing from Alpha, Beta, and so on while collecting feedback and thinking of working around the developments.

As for testnet, surely there will be lots of users who might take part*. Just give all the information.

Goodluck!

You're absolutely right. It's really required to test it and then check if it will entice people on playing it or they would rather have a different theme and environment because we have different tastes. So it's really better if you will test the waters first before diving into it completely. I think one of the things you could do to get people to be interested in your crafts and platform is to advertise, do testings to let them play for free at first, and give free bonuses. These things should be aligned in your roadmap though so that you could give the players the assurance that they need.

If you are worried about the tests stage of your game, I'm sure that there will be many players who would be glad to participate because after all, the timing in entering the NFTs is of importance. Just make sure that you won't abandon them because there are some developers that just suddenly vanish on thin air the moment their game skyrockets or dumps.

legendary
Activity: 2310
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January 05, 2022, 04:42:35 AM
#32
This is a good initiative that will help to arrange fair games. In my opinion, technology has been ready for a long time so that we can gamble on fully verifiable smart contracts. If you launch such a platform, many gamblers will be happy. I wish you good luck in implementing a P2P gambling platform.
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 507
January 05, 2022, 03:53:25 AM
#31
We have a real good team. So we're trying to do the best UI/UX, low taxes & high performance. To prevent all these risks, we make beta testing and collect all feedbacks. Thanks to all of us for your attention to our project!
It is good if you already have beta testers from people out there, so they can see what needs to be added or removed from the site before the site launches. Hopefully, you can grow the site and will have time to make it bigger and can be one of the recommended gambling sites here. It needs time to get that but I am sure you with your team will do many things to make it happen and with hard work, that will be just a matter of time.
hero member
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January 04, 2022, 10:13:18 PM
#30
That looks unique. But every time you transfer back the fund from your smart contract to the players or winners, that would be consuming a lot of fees. And the concern about liquidity, he's right.

However, there is just not enough liquidity in most p2p gambling platforms for it to be worthwhile for whales and regulars to play on.

There have been attempts I think to have this type of setting but IIRC, no one of them became successful. People are still into the casual casinos that have the common games.

Exactly.

Most people are just content with playing on a centralized platform with the common games like Dice, Blackjack etc.

With the infrastructure right now that we have, smart contracts are incredibly costly and slow to execute and it'll make the gaming experience absolutely atrocious for everyone involved. Unless you run it on some proprietary chain without many transactions (but that's going to arguably be costlier to develop).
hero member
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January 02, 2022, 03:11:39 PM
#29
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You never deposit or withdraw money to us. When you place a bet or wager, money is transferred directly from your wallet to our smart contract. When the event ends, the funds are returned back to the winner's wallet.

That is the question, we are wondering if the market needs it and if so, what other games could you offer?
Would you take part in the testnet?

I do think that the market needs a project like this to ensure fairness and make sure that there will actually never be KYC.

But, I think that it's just a lot of hassle and a huge learning curve for most people.

If you can make it so that the whole process is super easy on the user, then sure, go ahead. But for most casinos there is a tradeoff between user experience and the degree of decentralization - just like normal cryptos.
legendary
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January 02, 2022, 02:04:23 PM
#28
Hi guys. We need your help.

 We are developing a decentralized platform for games between users (P2P).

All games in our universe are tied to decentralization, pools and smart contracts.

Many sites with different games (online casinos, bookmakers) are accused of opacity and hiding their inner workings.
We make sure that all outcomes of events are 100% provable. All actions are recorded in the blockchain.
You make a bet with friends between users, using our ecosystem, organizing a joint pool. At the bookmaker's office, you bet against the casino. We believe the pooling model has many advantages for the player:
Thanks to blockchain technology and smart contracts, everyone can see exactly what is happening. Probably fair, transparently recorded on the blockchain. Easily verified in real time.

What makes us unique compared to centralized platforms or other decentralized platforms is the use of smart contracts.

At the moment, the logic of the contract is ready.

Games like:
Rock, Paper, Scissors
Classic roulette (Those wishing to try their luck place a bet on a general deposit that is raffled among players at the end of a round.)
PVP roulette
WHEEL POOL

NFT games:
Similar to battles
Race

Game predictions combined with NFT

As well as bets

You never deposit or withdraw money to us. When you place a bet or wager, money is transferred directly from your wallet to our smart contract. When the event ends, the funds are returned back to the winner's wallet.

That is the question, we are wondering if the market needs it and if so, what other games could you offer?
Would you take part in the testnet?

We are doing such a decentralized project that would include all possible games between users.
We are still working on the project.
Thanks for the feedback.


Yes, in my opinion, your project is very interesting.  Such a project can be successful in the gambling market. 

What games can I suggest for implementation? 

Sea battle. 

The player places his fleet on a checkered field (10 × 10).  The battleship (in the game he is alone) occupies 4 cells.  Cruiser (there are two of them in the game) - 3 cells.  The destroyer (there are 3 of them) occupies 2 cells.  Missile boat (4 in total) - one cell.  You do not see exactly where your enemy has positioned their ships.  For 1 turn, you can make only one shot (select the coordinates of a specific cell).  You can miss and your shot will hit the ocean. 

You can partially destroy the enemy's warship.  Or destroy it completely.  The goal of the game is to destroy the enemy's fleet
hero member
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January 02, 2022, 01:32:28 PM
#27
That looks unique. But every time you transfer back the fund from your smart contract to the players or winners, that would be consuming a lot of fees. And the concern about liquidity, he's right.

However, there is just not enough liquidity in most p2p gambling platforms for it to be worthwhile for whales and regulars to play on.

There have been attempts I think to have this type of setting but IIRC, no one of them became successful. People are still into the casual casinos that have the common games.
hero member
Activity: 1666
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January 01, 2022, 06:52:24 PM
#26
I personally think that you should deploy it on a low-gas blockchain.

But overall, i think that gambling is always going to be one of the things that will benefit from decentralization just because of the importance of having fair rolls and making sure that casinos can pay out any wins.

If you can do it well, there is a lot of potential. But most protocols go to zero because they focus too much on development and not enough on marketing.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
December 30, 2021, 04:46:28 PM
#25
That is the question, we are wondering if the market needs it and if so, what other games could you offer?
Would you take part in the testnet?

We are doing such a decentralized project that would include all possible games between users.
We are still working on the project.
Thanks for the feedback.

The idea is wonderful.
In a cryptographic world that is increasingly moving towards decentralization, the use of smart contracts is something that definitely needs to take over the world, and gambling offers an excellent opportunity for that.
What I hope is that the creators have the expertise to make the platform fluid without too much complication or slowdown for users.

I look forward to the test period.


We have a real good team. So we're trying to do the best UI/UX, low taxes & high performance. To prevent all these risks, we make beta testing and collect all feedbacks. Thanks to all of us for your attention to our project!
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1008
December 30, 2021, 04:50:55 AM
#24
Chess or checkers, very good idea.

I think you should exclude this game. Even the game is provably fair, we don't know who's behind that game. There's always a question about the legitimacy of a real human in that kind of game.  Maybe try to create an adventure mode as I doubt many will be attracted to P2P.

But as others said, you should start the platform now to see the real people's feedback about the game. All issues will just be known once you made your game live.
hero member
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December 29, 2021, 10:33:49 PM
#23
The market will always need something new that will be different from others. If you can give that thing to people and make them curious about your site, I am sure they will come to test and see what the game is and how to play it. The market will always change because many new people come to the gambling business for so many purposes and want to make money from gambling. So if you can give different things such as interface, the games, the things that are new and not available in another place, your site will have a chance to grow.
But this one is the most challenging thing of all if someone do tend to make some business here on gambling space on which owners would really be thinking off new things and ideas which doesnt exist on this market
yet because we know that once people do find out for it to be interesting then there would really be a chance for it to be recognized and would really be having the chance to grow same as you said.
P2P is somewhat not really that appealing basing off with current condition but depending if this one will really be entirely different but based up on experience and awareness
then this is something that would be hard.
If @OP can give another experience playing P2P and different from what they have right now, I am sure that will interest them and curiosity. When their curiosity becomes bigger, they will surely come back more and more because they will want to explore many things inside the site. Yes, it is a challenge for every business owner to improve their site to be better than before to achieve their goals. Those business owners do not just follow the trend but can create new things that can become the next trend. When they can do that, the way to become the top reputable gambling site will be wide open.

We will try to make a cool platform for gamers with your help to improve it!
We are here to help you to improve your site. I am curious what it looks like of your site. I smell that your name site can use the name of "roflbot" Grin

We are waiting for the next update from you.
member
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December 29, 2021, 06:53:48 PM
#22
It's somewhat hard to believe even when I understand the possible to make it work out but I still can't trust funds that ain't handled in a centralized web anyways.. the P2P idea is fantastic and also has a bad effects because very systematic gamblers might not wanna be a part of these except maybe your options are totally different and could automatically link someone to you on your concurrent bets, apart from this, it's really gonna be hard !
legendary
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December 29, 2021, 06:48:40 PM
#21
That is the question, we are wondering if the market needs it and if so, what other games could you offer?
Would you take part in the testnet?

We are doing such a decentralized project that would include all possible games between users.
We are still working on the project.
Thanks for the feedback.

The idea is wonderful.
In a cryptographic world that is increasingly moving towards decentralization, the use of smart contracts is something that definitely needs to take over the world, and gambling offers an excellent opportunity for that.
What I hope is that the creators have the expertise to make the platform fluid without too much complication or slowdown for users.

I look forward to the test period.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 513
December 29, 2021, 06:20:36 PM
#20
It's certainly a great idea.

But the execution of the p2p system is going to be quite hard to get right. You are going to deal with significant fees and frictions whenever it comes to decentralized applications and it's not going to be easy to convince someone who has no experience with Web3.0 to adopt this technology.

I would suggest having a centralized platform as well as a decentralized one for greater exposure and success.
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 596
December 29, 2021, 05:33:04 PM
#19
I think that the P2P idea has always been interesting.

However, there is just not enough liquidity in most p2p gambling platforms for it to be worthwhile for whales and regulars to play on.

Imagine waiting days to get matched with someone who can take on the other side of your bet, for instance. If you can solve this problem, you will attract a lot of users for sure.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
December 29, 2021, 01:49:07 PM
#18
The market will always need something new that will be different from others. If you can give that thing to people and make them curious about your site, I am sure they will come to test and see what the game is and how to play it. The market will always change because many new people come to the gambling business for so many purposes and want to make money from gambling. So if you can give different things such as interface, the games, the things that are new and not available in another place, your site will have a chance to grow.
But this one is the most challenging thing of all if someone do tend to make some business here on gambling space on which owners would really be thinking off new things and ideas which doesnt exist on this market
yet because we know that once people do find out for it to be interesting then there would really be a chance for it to be recognized and would really be having the chance to grow same as you said.
P2P is somewhat not really that appealing basing off with current condition but depending if this one will really be entirely different but based up on experience and awareness
then this is something that would be hard.

We will try to make a cool platform for gamers with your help to improve it!
sr. member
Activity: 2226
Merit: 347
December 29, 2021, 11:36:40 AM
#17
The market will always need something new that will be different from others. If you can give that thing to people and make them curious about your site, I am sure they will come to test and see what the game is and how to play it. The market will always change because many new people come to the gambling business for so many purposes and want to make money from gambling. So if you can give different things such as interface, the games, the things that are new and not available in another place, your site will have a chance to grow.
But this one is the most challenging thing of all if someone do tend to make some business here on gambling space on which owners would really be thinking off new things and ideas which doesnt exist on this market
yet because we know that once people do find out for it to be interesting then there would really be a chance for it to be recognized and would really be having the chance to grow same as you said.
P2P is somewhat not really that appealing basing off with current condition but depending if this one will really be entirely different but based up on experience and awareness
then this is something that would be hard.
hero member
Activity: 2604
Merit: 816
🐺Spinarium.com🐺 - iGaming casino
December 29, 2021, 08:26:40 AM
#16
The market will always need something new that will be different from others. If you can give that thing to people and make them curious about your site, I am sure they will come to test and see what the game is and how to play it. The market will always change because many new people come to the gambling business for so many purposes and want to make money from gambling. So if you can give different things such as interface, the games, the things that are new and not available in another place, your site will have a chance to grow.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
December 29, 2021, 07:19:56 AM
#15
Thanks for your feedback.

We think about interactivity.
According to the logic of the contract, we want to release nft games (P2E).

Besides collection, various NFT properties can also bring profit to the game, such as increasing the chances of winning battles.

For instance:
Cursor Race (P2E Games + Prediction Games)

Like the governance token (DAO), decentralization doesn't matter
We are thinking of launching a test network after the holidays.

But what other games would you recommend adding so that people play with each other?

You could go a bit away from traditional ones that people have anyway in managed platforms and will not place you in their radar, as they would be used to a very well thought and proven interface and designer experiences. Perhaps games like Go or Chess could be an option, with an eye out for robots. All along any game you chose, you have to be mindful that there are bots out there so you may have to restrict yourselves to games that IA have not yet cracked or have rules that ensure humans are playing. If not there may be an strategic caveat on the idea and eventually will be time wasted.

Another key is to make sure that all are provably fair.

Thanks!
To be fair, we use a smart contract.
To play, you only need a metamask.

Chess or checkers, very good idea.
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