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legendary
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Good afternoon.

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey with the seller on July 9, 2019 and today we performed the same procedure with the other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and ready for withdrawal at any time.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused.

This is a complete lie and I am completely shocked that you would make this public statement.

I deposited btc onto your exchange and bought 2.6 million hempcoin over a month and a half ago. I was not allowed to withdraw these funds, and asked for support for over a month.

It was discovered that your team made a mistake and sent free hempcoins to users around 3-4 months ago (nothing to do with me) and were not able to cover legitimate trades like my own and your solution is to pretend that some sort of fraud took place?  You instead fully lie and say that these coins were "acquired in a non-legal way"Huh  What the hell are you talking about? You made a tech error, it was your mistake and fault, nothing illegal?Huh

Your solution is to completely roll back all of my trades on p2p2b2 from over a month ago and just refund me my btc?? The price is already 3 times what I bought my coins for?Huh

I lost tens of thousands of dollars because of these actions and your fraudulent behavior. Do not use P2PB2B, you will get scammed. They are technically incompetent and will steal your money and provide you with 0 support.

They are listing every garbage project as quickly as they possibly can and collecting BTC while offering "market-making" for new projects, which is wash trading and 100% illegal, how do I know? Because I was in discussion with them about listing our coin several months ago and was offered this service.

This exchange has all of the signs of being a cash grab and are set up with a Belize and Seychelles infrastructure ready to run away when the time is right.

I challenge you P2PB2B to respond to these allegations and provide the community with a detailed account of your version of events. Lying and pretending that some sort of fraud took place instead of admitting that you had a tech error is 100% bogus and any attempt to continue along this narrative will be met with additional evidence.

I know you sent emails to people who received free Hempcoins because of your technical error demanding they return funds or you would block their account or take from existing balances and I know about the conversations you had trying to buy 5 million coins on a side deal to fix your mistake. Now you're saying there was some sort of fraud? Why are you not telling the truth?

Awaiting your response...




Well let us see what the Coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers have to say about this.

They have lost the public relations battle, they have been humiliated. Their plans to use p2pb2b and Coinsbit to steal funds from investors has been exposed.

hero member
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Good afternoon.

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey with the seller on July 9, 2019 and today we performed the same procedure with the other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and ready for withdrawal at any time.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused.

This is a complete lie and I am completely shocked that you would make this public statement.

I deposited btc onto your exchange and bought 2.6 million hempcoin over a month and a half ago. I was not allowed to withdraw these funds, and asked for support for over a month.

It was discovered that your team made a mistake and sent free hempcoins to users around 3-4 months ago (nothing to do with me) and were not able to cover legitimate trades like my own and your solution is to pretend that some sort of fraud took place?  You instead fully lie and say that these coins were "acquired in a non-legal way"Huh  What the hell are you talking about? You made a tech error, it was your mistake and fault, nothing illegal?Huh

Your solution is to completely roll back all of my trades on p2p2b2 from over a month ago and just refund me my btc?? The price is already 3 times what I bought my coins for?Huh

I lost tens of thousands of dollars because of these actions and your fraudulent behavior. Do not use P2PB2B, you will get scammed. They are technically incompetent and will steal your money and provide you with 0 support.

They are listing every garbage project as quickly as they possibly can and collecting BTC while offering "market-making" for new projects, which is wash trading and 100% illegal, how do I know? Because I was in discussion with them about listing our coin several months ago and was offered this service.

This exchange has all of the signs of being a cash grab and are set up with a Belize and Seychelles infrastructure ready to run away when the time is right.

I challenge you P2PB2B to respond to these allegations and provide the community with a detailed account of your version of events. Lying and pretending that some sort of fraud took place instead of admitting that you had a tech error is 100% bogus and any attempt to continue along this narrative will be met with additional evidence.

I know you sent emails to people who received free Hempcoins because of your technical error demanding they return funds or you would block their account or take from existing balances and I know about the conversations you had trying to buy 5 million coins on a side deal to fix your mistake. Now you're saying there was some sort of fraud? Why are you not telling the truth?

Awaiting your response...

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Good afternoon.

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey with the seller on July 9, 2019 and today we performed the same procedure with the other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and ready for withdrawal at any time.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused.
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They are a scam; I alerted several of the "trust" providers like coinmarketcap.com, Aaron is doing what he can to go above and beyond the call of duty to make sure that they don't harm anyone else.

My name is CowboyKen from ArDax.com.ar and I am a real person.  I have a little personal mission to clean up the space before bitcoin really gets moving later this year.

My whatsapp is +5491135016854

Kindly,
CowboyKen


Yes you are right, they have been exposed as a scam. p2pb2b are scammers.

Even their sister company Coinsbit which uses an identical website template has also been exposed and they are going all out to spread propaganda and generate fake buzz in the hope to scam users.
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They are a scam; I alerted several of the "trust" providers like coinmarketcap.com, Aaron is doing what he can to go above and beyond the call of duty to make sure that they don't harm anyone else.

My name is CowboyKen from ArDax.com.ar and I am a real person.  I have a little personal mission to clean up the space before bitcoin really gets moving later this year.

My whatsapp is +5491135016854

Kindly,
CowboyKen
legendary
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Any updates to this?

The p2pb2b.io username is not logging in here any more since they were exposed
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Looking at his github page:

https://github.com/vsolodovnyk?tab=repositories

..it appears he cloned the ViaBTC exchange repo last year - so maybe he's just re-branded it in several versions/names & is throwing up these different exchanges for hoovering up user funds?.....

ViaBTC exchange is now trading as coinex.com - at least that's where clicking the link on the viabtc.com exchange button takes you (bottom of page).


Excellent post. This Valerii Solodovnyk seems to have his fingers in lots of "pies".

https://web.archive.org/web/20190721185140/https://github.com/vsolodovnyk?tab=repositories
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Looking at his github page:

https://github.com/vsolodovnyk?tab=repositories

..it appears he cloned the ViaBTC exchange repo last year - so maybe he's just re-branded it in several versions/names & is throwing up these different exchanges for hoovering up user funds?.....

ViaBTC exchange is now trading as coinex.com - at least that's where clicking the link on the viabtc.com exchange button takes you (bottom of page).
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i need help to find more info, it seems that partida.io is the main company that offer services to both exchanges
here is some information

PARTIDA SERVICES OÜ
Ärinimi
Partida Services OÜ
Registrikood:
14572266

Valerii Solodovnyk

Partida and p2pb2b use a similar logo
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Found the link:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinsbitio-cryptocurrency-exchange-official-thread-4971628

Lots of info there, well worth a read.

Another Russian scam exchange.


COINSBIT and P2PB2B = SCAM


Yes P2PB2B finally admitted the "were" connected to the Coinsbit scammers because they "shared" the same developer team in the early days: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51834549

I posted these too:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51853699
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51865201

You will notice the "thank you for getting in touch" and "feel free to ask if you have more questions" politeness has changed to "You let everyone know that you're manipulator and the chief source of fud but it isn't really a problem for anonymous, right?". They were never going to keep up the nice-nice mask forever...  Roll Eyes





Their "headquarter" is a mailing-address-for-hire that has 801 "companies" doing the same thing by pretending they have an office and business in a prestigious part of London, UK:
https://suite.endole.co.uk/explorer/postcode/w1u-6tu


Both Coinsbit and P2PB2B amazingly use the same software and "shared" the same team yet still make identical updates to their websites at the same time.

Amazingly they have a 24/7 support team that are fluent in the following languages: English, Chinese (Mandarin), Japanese, Russian, Indonesian, Spanish, German in that order ! (P2PB2B also added Korean) yet claim they are not connected.





Coinsbit claim they trade over $30 BILLION a year, or $84 million per day
P2PB2B  claim they trade over $60 BILLION a year, or $167 million per day



jr. member
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The fraudsters behind this scambag are all russians and ukrainians.
They lie that they're from Estonia and UK.
This is 146% lie.
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Beware of so-called b2bp2p scam exchange.

https://p2pb2b.io

They will steal your money.

Today I decide to give a try to this service. After the registration I tried to deposit some money and found that there's minimum amount requirement.

Ok, the minimum is 50 Sem so I transfer exactly 50 Sem to the address provided by b2bp2p.

P2PB2B generated my deposit address as 0x3ced649fbbce02397bdc7edfaf87bc12ac6eafa4

Go check the records:

https://semux.info/explorer/account/0x3ced649fbbce02397bdc7edfaf87bc12ac6eafa4

12:42:06, 17 Jul 2019 0x3ced649fbbce02397bdc7edfaf87bc12ac6eafa4 50 SEM arrived.

a minute later at 12:43:02, 17 Jul 2019 scammers took my money from my deposit and sent 'em to unknown address 0x0bf9e08ec7f34fd2f9b503a132915b1880cba7f7

Voila! No money in my wallet. Where they're? On the unknown account.

Did my deposit address got 50 sem? YES
Did I asked to play with my money to send 'em between wallets? NO
Was I warned that scammers gonna play with my money thus they need more sem to pay the fee for their games? NO
Have I lost my entire deposit according to scammers' logic. YES
Should I label P2PB2B as scammers? The answer is obvious.

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Coinsbit and p2pb2b are running the same exchange script, someone reported that
hero member
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Well, the snapshot and migration to Komodo are now completed and I was never sent my coins from P2PB2B. Literally tried to withdraw for 3 weeks in anticipation of the snapshot and the only support I received from their end was "please wait, don't open another ticket" for 3 weeks.

Due to the complete technical incompetence of P2PB2B in combination with their non-existent customer support and zero public statements made about this incident I have just lost 2.6 MILLION (1% of the entire currency).

P2PB2B is a scam and they have still not addressed, fixed, or made a statement about this matter.
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Anyway, although you didn't really mention what you meant by washtrading except to mention it in your title, i do think you're right. Their traffic rankings are  almost *exponentially* lower than all of their competitors, yet they sometimes have twice the volume.

Yes, this is evident without even having to dig very deep.

Yeah, I've been warning about this P2PB2B outfit for months in my sig - their crazy volumes are the worst fake numbers I've ever seen. I read elsewhere on this forum that their software is an exact clone of another exchange & that both are owned/run by the same people, I can't remember the thread, but if I find it again I'll post a link.

At least you got your BTC back though, not that it excuses their incompetence. A damn shady exchange all round & well worth staying clear of.
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Anyway, although you didn't really mention what you meant by washtrading except to mention it in your title, i do think you're right. Their traffic rankings are  almost *exponentially* lower than all of their competitors, yet they sometimes have twice the volume.

Yes, this is evident without even having to dig very deep.
legendary
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To then lie to your users and try to cover your mistake instead of taking responsibility for your actions is shameful and it is no wonder they are using a Belize and Seychelles setup for the incorporation of their business. Only companies looking to avoid lawsuits or legal action would set up this type of infrastructure.
Not necessarily. They're in general simply useful for businesses who don't want to abide every law/regulation that the US/EU shits out.

Anyway, although you didn't really mention what you meant by washtrading except to mention it in your title, i do think you're right. Their traffic rankings are  almost *exponentially* lower than all of their competitors, yet they sometimes have twice the volume.


This is the case for most exchanges listed on CMC though, all of them except for maybe binance, bittrex, and a handful of others.

Some comparison:

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/p2pb2b/  
Code:
24 H Volume - $168,319,947 USD 
13,362 BTC
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p2pb2b.io
Code:
Alexa ranking: This site ranks:
#72,901
in global internet engagement
https://www.similarweb.com/website/p2pb2b.io#display
Code:
Global Rank
Worldwide
 95,917

Now lets take a look at some of their direct competitors in the # reported volume metrics:

Code: (https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/gate-io/)
$153,097,381 USD 
12,156 BTC

Code: (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gate.io)
This site ranks:
#17,010
in global internet engagement
https://www.similarweb.com/website/gate.io - 2.7 million visits.
https://www.similarweb.com/website/p2pb2b.io 0.5 million visits.
Gate.io gets 5 times as many visitors as p2pb2p.io, yet they have a lower volume. >big brain time.

Another one:
Code: (https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bittrex/)
$90,232,784 USD 
7,168 BTC
Code: (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bittrex.com)
#4,109
in global internet engagement


https://www.similarweb.com/website/p2pb2b.io#display
30% of their traffic is referral of which another 50% is from faucets. That must definitely inflate their traffic stats as well.
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