P2PB2B SCAMMERS - resolving "scam alerts" and misunderstandings - page 4.

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Quote from: tmfp on December 24, 2019, 02:15:08 PM

https://twitter.com/PACcoinOfficial/status/1190293442712211457

Quote from: Angry Beur

Really strange that your kid-CEO aka Drew Saunders aka the dictator aka @pacnode didn't retweet this beautiful stupid tweet.

and other PAC related comments, may make you think like I do; that it's possible that internal changes at PAC got him back onside, and that any criticism of P2P was seen as counterproductive from then on. Idk.

Timeline:
Dec 16: 172 x spam posts made promoting PAC on BCT (and deleted by mods quite quickly)
Dec 16: Angry Beur twitter account closes
Dec 17: Last (critical) post by Aktarus (AB?) on BCT

All of this adds to the confusion surrounding what is going on. If all these events including the Twitter account being shut down by Angry Beur are connected, then it could mean several things including the possibilities that Angry Beur was threatened in to silence or was paid to go silent, or maybe something else.

From what I recall about reading his Tweets he was not an ex-member of a team or project and he was not out to make Tweets in revenge so this situation is very confusing. He did link all the Valerii Solodovnyk related scam exchanges together and Tweet about them but from the other activity on his Twitter account it did not seem because he was a disgruntled ex-employee, most of his activity seemed to be non-crypto related.

Maybe some information might be posted in the coming days that can shed more light on this.

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https://twitter.com/PACcoinOfficial/status/1190293442712211457

Quote from: Angry Beur

Really strange that your kid-CEO aka Drew Saunders aka the dictator aka @pacnode didn't retweet this beautiful stupid tweet.

and other PAC related comments, may make you think like I do; that it's possible that internal changes at PAC got him back onside, and that any criticism of P2P was seen as counterproductive from then on. Idk.

Timeline:
Dec 16: 172 x spam posts made promoting PAC on BCT (and deleted by mods quite quickly)
Dec 16: Angry Beur twitter account closes
Dec 17: Last (critical) post by Aktarus (AB?) on BCT

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Quote from: tmfp on December 17, 2019, 03:40:48 PM

Quote from: examplens on December 17, 2019, 08:28:48 AM

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 07:05:13 PM

Coincidence?

whitebit.com and xcrypt.pro are produced by the same people as p2pb2...

You misunderstand me.
I know that whitebit are obviously part of the P2PB2B/ coinsbit organization (for the reasons I listed above), I was wondering why I hadn't seen them mentioned before as such, although I haven't read every post on the many P2PB2B threads.
xcrypt.pro? If the only proof of them being part of this group is what's mentioned here on Reddit, then I think that's a bit flimsy. Given the absurd hundreds of exchange licences that Estonia has granted in such a short period of time, I'd think it's inevitable that some would use similar web templates and T&C's.
What about Folgory.com, for example?
Which brings me to what I meant when I said

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 07:05:13 PM

Coincidence?

This was in reference to the second part of my post regarding #AngryBeur and Pacnode's forum spam.
#AngryBeur may have disappeared from Twitter, but he seems to be a member on this forum.

Quote from: Aktarus on November 04, 2019, 01:57:50 PM

P2PB2B is obviously a scam, if you have any assets there I recommend you to withdraw them asap (if you can...)
https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

Quote from: Aktarus on December 03, 2019, 05:03:09 AM

Quote from: Santibanes on December 02, 2019, 09:57:56 PM

In the PAC Global, there is no place for you Angry Beur and people like you. So thank you for separate idiots from PAC Global. Because those who follow your ideology is idiot.

If a bus advertise to take you from a point A to a point B and you pay a ticket for that, only a fool like you would be happy if the bus change the plan half way.
I have invested 5000 dollars because of Brad's promising.
Another thing, don't use the F word on me, never twist a dragon's tail. Keep yourself away from me.

All very curious.

Excellent post, you picked up on something very strange indeed.

If that user here is the same AngryBeur then why would he delete his Twitter account that was so helpfully exposing Ukrainian exchange multi-scammer Valerii Solodovnyk?

Maybe somebody can shed light on this...

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Quote from: Georgiy235 on December 20, 2019, 08:06:48 AM

Yes, all this info sounds interesting, but kinda provocative. I don’t know how it can help me, but now I trade on WhiteBit and have absolutely no probs with that.

Yes, you are so satisfied with Whitebit that it is the only subject you have ever posted about here.

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Yes, all this info sounds interesting, but kinda provocative. I don’t know how it can help me, but now I trade on WhiteBit and have absolutely no probs with that.

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Quote from: examplens on December 17, 2019, 08:28:48 AM

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 07:05:13 PM

Coincidence?

whitebit.com and xcrypt.pro are produced by the same people as p2pb2...

You misunderstand me.
I know that whitebit are obviously part of the P2PB2B/ coinsbit organization (for the reasons I listed above), I was wondering why I hadn't seen them mentioned before as such, although I haven't read every post on the many P2PB2B threads.
xcrypt.pro? If the only proof of them being part of this group is what's mentioned here on Reddit, then I think that's a bit flimsy. Given the absurd hundreds of exchange licences that Estonia has granted in such a short period of time, I'd think it's inevitable that some would use similar web templates and T&C's.
What about Folgory.com, for example?
Which brings me to what I meant when I said

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 07:05:13 PM

Coincidence?

This was in reference to the second part of my post regarding #AngryBeur and Pacnode's forum spam.
#AngryBeur may have disappeared from Twitter, but he seems to be a member on this forum.

Quote from: Aktarus on November 04, 2019, 01:57:50 PM

P2PB2B is obviously a scam, if you have any assets there I recommend you to withdraw them asap (if you can...)
https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

Quote from: Aktarus on December 03, 2019, 05:03:09 AM

Quote from: Santibanes on December 02, 2019, 09:57:56 PM

In the PAC Global, there is no place for you Angry Beur and people like you. So thank you for separate idiots from PAC Global. Because those who follow your ideology is idiot.

If a bus advertise to take you from a point A to a point B and you pay a ticket for that, only a fool like you would be happy if the bus change the plan half way.
I have invested 5000 dollars because of Brad's promising.
Another thing, don't use the F word on me, never twist a dragon's tail. Keep yourself away from me.

All very curious.

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on December 16, 2019, 06:48:35 PM

Quote from: IconFirm on December 15, 2019, 07:47:07 PM

CMC will report whatever figures these scam exchanges give them & have no shame - it is literally a platform for promoting scams if the bribe is right.

Couldn't have said better! I see CMC as the root cause of all these scummy exchanges and throwaway coins. They will literally put a potato on the market if the price is right. @JollyGood - Good stuff dude. Always been a fan of your investigations.

Thank you for your kind words Joel_Jantsen, it is most appreciated.

I wish I was more active here and being more productive as far as contributing to scam busting is concerned but I have had to take a back seat for the last couple of months because there is a lot happening outside crypto-world for me so I decided to make fewer posts. Hopefully I will start to become more actrive in the scam-busting department soon.

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It seems, now is clear 2b or not 2b dilemma. Cheesy

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on December 16, 2019, 06:48:35 PM

Quote from: IconFirm on December 15, 2019, 07:47:07 PM

CMC will report whatever figures these scam exchanges give them & have no shame - it is literally a platform for promoting scams if the bribe is right.

Couldn't have said better! I see CMC as the root cause of all these scummy exchanges and throwaway coins. They will literally put a potato on the market if the price is right. @JollyGood - Good stuff dude. Always been a fan of your investigations.

CMC took money from them for listing, probably he can't delist them so easy.

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 07:05:13 PM

Coincidence?

whitebit.com and xcrypt.pro are produced by the same people as p2pb2...

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 16, 2019, 04:56:29 PM

I wonder why he closed his Twitter account

The last tweets of his that I recall were highly critical of the shitnode called PAC Global. Their CEO Drew Saunders answered his (now deleted) criticisms on Twitter here
https://twitter.com/pacnode/status/1202878829057867776

In your screenshot of the now deleted Nov 4th tweet, the hashtag #PACGlobal can be clearly seen, especially in the second tweet

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But most important, they all owned by ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk (@TripsUA) (friend of @pacnode?)

BTW, do you have https://whitebit.com/ listed as a Solodovnyk exchange?
Because...
His Twitter website listing is n-chain.io, which is only Host log in. A quick search shows Alexey Kovaliov, CTO at n-chain.io is also Alexey Kovaliov CTO at WhiteBit.

Edited, wrong.

Also a fake team scam accusation.

I notice that, a few minutes before I am posting this, our forum has been hit with a deluge of 160 x spam [ANN] type posts on behalf of PAC Global by a shill account.
I have reported them as such, so here's an archive
http://web.archive.org/web/20191216231753/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2110925.msg53365057%23msg53365057

Coincidence?

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Quote from: IconFirm on December 15, 2019, 07:47:07 PM

CMC will report whatever figures these scam exchanges give them & have no shame - it is literally a platform for promoting scams if the bribe is right.

Couldn't have said better! I see CMC as the root cause of all these scummy exchanges and throwaway coins. They will literally put a potato on the market if the price is right. @JollyGood - Good stuff dude. Always been a fan of your investigations.

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on December 16, 2019, 01:36:31 PM

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 01:13:24 PM

@AngryBeur has disappeared from Twitter...

Most closely related reason for it would be him being embarrassed of himself looking at the accusations against him on bitcointalk. It looks like an overall community success on bitcointalk towards building more cleaner crypto environment.

Asshole !

I think you have misunderstood the situation.

The user called AngryBeur on Twitter was exposing coinsbit, p2pb2b and all the other scam exchanges operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk.

The fact he is no longer on Twitter is somewhat sad. I hope he will return at some point. Personally, I am grateful for the tweet he made helping let others know about Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk and the scam exchanges he uses as vehicles to steal from people.

Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 01:13:24 PM

@AngryBeur has disappeared from Twitter...

Yes he has disappeared from Twitter but here is the post he made which was subsequently widely quoted

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I wonder why he closed his Twitter account

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Quote from: tmfp on December 16, 2019, 01:13:24 PM

@AngryBeur has disappeared from Twitter...

Most closely related reason for it would be him being embarrassed of himself looking at the accusations against him on bitcointalk. It looks like an overall community success on bitcointalk towards building more cleaner crypto environment.

Asshole !

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@AngryBeur has disappeared from Twitter...

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on December 14, 2019, 03:05:28 PM

They should have rather accepted being shady and try to prove us that they have become legit somehow. But there core was shady afterall, and they already knew they were fighting a fake fight. Dick Move !

As ridiculous as it sounds the fact of the matter is there were some users from this forum that were all too happy to provide their services to promote p2pb2b in their bounty campaign.

How was it possible that some of us completely disregarded the disgraceful p2pb2b bounty campaign yet others decided to fall for it? In some cases sure it was clear some users decided go for money even though they knew the p2pb2b background however for those that were not familiar with the history of p2pb2b (or Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk who operates multiple fake exchanges including p2pb2b and coinsbit.io) easily fell for the trap.

Anything related to Valerii Solodovnyk must be avoided: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650 who own various scam exchanges

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From what I have seen in the past scammers don't really stop not until everyone on their group is behind bars. The exchange P2PB2B as a name might stop but I'm guessing that their scam will run in another name and I'm really sure of that. So don't be surprised if a similar exchange will pop out here with an ANN Thread that has similar offerings as P2PB2B, It will be just our instincts to know who they are.

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 14, 2019, 09:30:10 PM

In the mean time they continue to post fake trading volumes at CMC... Roll Eyes

CMC will report whatever figures these scam exchanges give them & have no shame - it is literally a platform for promoting scams if the bribe is right.

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Quote from: blurryeyed on December 14, 2019, 12:07:27 PM

They also locked their bounty campaign thread - total FAIL.....lol

Not sure what their end game was by intending to post in the forum trying to clean their scam from their past but it failed. The scammers were never accepted here.

In the mean time they continue to post fake trading volumes at CMC... Roll Eyes

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They should have rather accepted being shady and try to prove us that they have become legit somehow. But there core was shady afterall, and they already knew they were fighting a fake fight. Dick Move !

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They also locked their bounty campaign thread - total FAIL.....lol

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Now that the p2pb2b scammers have locked their thread with the same title as this one (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-resolving-scam-alerts-and-misunderstandings-5205331), I guess that means the end of their aims of trying to dupe people here for the foreseeable future.

Their now-locked trash thread did not resolve even one issue, instead they dug a deeper hole for themselves. They were exposed for using stock images and passing them off as their team members Roll Eyes

Their attempts to use a bounty campaign in the hope having their negative Trust removed failed. Their attempts at trying to divide our community failed.

p2pb2b is owned by Ukrainian scammer called Valerii Solodovnyk who has multiple fake exchanges including coinsbit.io: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

Let us hope they do not post in this forum again

BEWARE OF SUPER SCAM: P2PB2B claim to be worlds biggest exchange !: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-of-super-scam-p2pb2b-claim-to-be-worlds-biggest-exchange-5192497

UPDATE: Their locked bounty thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53152280

UPDATE: The tweets by Angry Beur have been deleted and his Twitter account closed but here is what was tweeted (https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650)

UPDATE: The Angry Beur Twitter account is back up again: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

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