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newbie
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June 24, 2024, 04:08:25 PM
#23
@sdsp
Not that it matters, but have you informed P.A.C.M.A.N. about this scam accusation that you have created? I doubt he will care or even post here, but you never know.  
Despite there not being definitive proof, tagging him and creating a flag that the community supported was the right call.
Thanks.
No I didn't inform him, screw him. I care about the other users not falling for his trap, I wanted to share his name here, especially his Telegram handle. It is important to share his social handles, as searching for "P.A.C.M.A.N." even with double quotes does not show the proper result on Google, as it contains dots.
legendary
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June 24, 2024, 11:41:59 AM
#22

Deleted. Job completed. Thanks P.A.C.M.A.N.

Edited: I gave him a second job and he scammed me of $150 by running away without completing the task. Do not trust him.

Unfortunately, none of them bothered to create a proper scam accusation, so it remained under the radar of DT members.


This is why it's important to create a scam accusation here instead of giving a warning to your thread about the deal or giving your feedback, you need to create a flag and ask DT to tag the scammers, doing it on your own if you're a newbie will not help because the feedback will not show in the profile.
That is the end of the line for this scammer since he is tagged by DT and there's a flag for him.
legendary
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June 24, 2024, 11:22:05 AM
#21
@sdsp
Not that it matters, but have you informed P.A.C.M.A.N. about this scam accusation that you have created? I doubt he will care or even post here, but you never know. 
Despite there not being definitive proof, tagging him and creating a flag that the community supported was the right call.

I was about to ask the same while reading this thread from the first post to the last, and noticed no one mentioned him being notified about this ongoing case, but I think he's very well aware of the situation, his account is lit with negative feedback and he is online today. More likely than not, he saw those orange numbers on his profile and his absence here would mean he choose not to come.

Just in case, though, I'll send him a PM.
legendary
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June 24, 2024, 10:55:48 AM
#20
@sdsp
Not that it matters, but have you informed P.A.C.M.A.N. about this scam accusation that you have created? I doubt he will care or even post here, but you never know. 
Despite there not being definitive proof, tagging him and creating a flag that the community supported was the right call.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 05:56:42 PM
#19
I have created a Trust flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3315. Please support.

I backed the Flag but I doubt we'll see him use this account more and he'll probably move to a new alt to continue scamming. Especially if this is indeed a case related to our well-known serial scammer Humbertin. He's like a cockroach - impossible to squash completely. Just gotta keep exposing his scams wherever he pops up.
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June 23, 2024, 05:34:22 PM
#18
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P.A.C.M.A.N: Scammed U
 P.A.C.M.A.N: Byee

LOL
Based on the screenshot of the chat that OP posted, it seems P.A.C.M.A.N has been a long time scammer. I can see a similarity to another screenshot shared by another user about a month ago.



Recklessizm also shared a screenshot as reference to the feedback he had left him. it's unfortunate he did not open a scam accusation, but he (the scammer) said the same thing.

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Hello
Scammed you
source: https://prnt.sc/KMsjabBXuI9o





I have created a Trust flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3315. Please support.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 05:11:41 PM
#17
Similar complaints in another thread too. I think P.A.C.M.A.N is a scammer. It's just that the previous complainants did not bother to produce evidence or show us how he tried to scam them. That's why he hasn't had any negative tag of flag until today

In fact, he had already received several negative ratings before this case. However, these ratings were from users who weren't DT members and were therefore hidden under "Untrusted Feedback." It seems oldsnail was the first DT member to complain about the scam:

Deleted. Job completed. Thanks P.A.C.M.A.N.

Edited: I gave him a second job and he scammed me of $150 by running away without completing the task. Do not trust him.

Unfortunately, none of them bothered to create a proper scam accusation, so it remained under the radar of DT members.
legendary
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Heisenberg
June 23, 2024, 04:25:53 PM
#16
Similar complaints in another thread too. I think P.A.C.M.A.N is a scammer. It's just that the previous complainants did not bother to produce evidence or show us how he tried to scam them. That's why he hasn't had any negative tag of flag until today

There is also a claim that he is connected to MadHatters, another scammer

Alleged connection:
This is most likely the scammers new account:

 P.A.C.M.A.N. ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pacman-3615306 )

Solo que Javier Milei va a regularizar el uso y pago de criptomonedas que lo cual hace poco dias ha empezado ya el proceso lo cual estaria bajo la lupa de GAFI , que el organismo internacional que se encarga de evitar el lavado de activos.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5488795
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5488792
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63805030
Exactly the same shit MadHatters offering/posting.

I would say it's no doubt this is the same person running both accounts and it's only a question of time until the same kind of accusations will appear to this user (P.A.C.M.A.N.) also.
Obviously not the sharpest tool in the box but I still think it's a no-brainer to not warn the community about this pea brain.

Other complaints
P.A.C.M.A.N. Just tried to scam me, this post saved me from it. Thanks

This user tried to scam me as well.

First attempt was in another forum where he was looking for Paypal to USDT (Me Paypal). This was way back in March 23 of this year (I can present proof of our telegram discussion)

Now, this user tried to scam me again by reaching out to me in this forum attempting to buy my $1k voucher.

How did I know it's the same user? Telegram. I searched for his telegram or email throughout the forum since I am unable to send anymore DMs due to forum limits.

I would highly recommend everyone to stay away from this user.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 03:54:14 PM
#15
There is no evidence that P.A.C.M.A.N. scammed him. Scam without evidence is not appropriate. Reg flag would be after people have known that the user is a scammer or intending to scam. But it would be good to give the user a neutral tag to warn any other people to either use escrow or to avoid him.

I dont think we can expect more evidence than has already been given in this case.

The OP provided a screenshot of the telegram conversation where it is clear that this was a blatant scam. Also, there is a blockchain transaction that confirms his side of the story:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/qzqnd3leje7zcktrlkaek2k4xyeuemln5spt05w0pp

I understand that screenshots can be manipulated, but I dont think there is any other way to prove that P.A.C.M.A.N. did not fulfill his part of the agreement. Therefore unless P.A.C.M.A.N. come here and prove the opposite, I think this is enough for a negative tag.
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June 23, 2024, 03:46:28 PM
#14
What cloud account was that OP? is it with google cloud, icloud, etc? I think that if it's with these accounts, you should just make your own and pay the premium for each of those instead of dealing with someone from the forum that don't have a reputation yet. Or if you will do this again, $15 seems to be a small amount to get escrowed with but many of them would want clean and safe transactions for everybody and that's why just do it with someone who's a good reputation upon doing these kinds of sales.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 03:24:55 PM
#13
Do you have any further evidence that the Telegram account belongs to that Bitcointalk user?
He provided evidence already in one of his posts on this thread:

legendary
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June 23, 2024, 03:17:38 PM
#12
Do you have any further evidence that the Telegram account belongs to that Bitcointalk user?
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 03:16:59 PM
#11
I have a strong hunch this might be yet another alt account belonging to that known scammer Humbertin (who is also ban evading, by the way).  

I believe P.A.C.M.A.N. is an alt account of user MadHatters - the one with the history of pulling similar scams here on the forums.  Both are selling accounts, both use the same shady M.O.  (the same style and multiple Telegram accounts to cover their tracks), both were active in the same Spanish-speaking locale, and there was some merit-sharing going on for what looks to be a pretty low-value post.

If I remember correctly, MadHatters is a proven Humbertin scammer alt account.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 03:15:50 PM
#10
 I will give the account a neutral tag right now.

sadly there is no way to get back the money you lost(unless he gives it back) so the next best thing is to create a flag against the user, given the evidence you provided I'll support it, though my support won't really have much effect on the flag you'll create against him since I am not part of DT.
There is no evidence that P.A.C.M.A.N. scammed him. Scam without evidence is not appropriate. Reg flag would be after people have known that the user is a scammer or intending to scam. But it would be good to give the user a neutral tag to warn any other people to either use escrow or to avoid him.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 02:47:23 PM
#9
sadly there is no way to get back the money you lost(unless he gives it back) so the next best thing is to create a flag against the user, given the evidence you provided I'll support it, though my support won't really have much effect on the flag you'll create against him since I am not part of DT.

I hope this becomes a lesson, also as Charles-Tim has mentioned, use escrow. it might cost you more money but it will surely be much more secure and safer than not using an escrow.
sr. member
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June 23, 2024, 12:00:50 PM
#8
That's a bit explainable as to where you got the telegram username from, as I was about to ask the same question, but even as a member who doesn't have any reputation for any financial deal conducted successfully, you need to proceed with caution when dealing with such users. 
 
You could have also dropped a comment on his thread before kickstarting the telegram conversation. At least some members could have seen the deal trying to go down and possibly warned you of the risk of not using an escrow. 
 
I don't know if much could be done here, as I even searched for the address the accused gave to you on Telegram on the forum, and it's nowhere to be found or used by that member before. It could have been a lot easier to nail him down with that.
newbie
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June 23, 2024, 11:33:30 AM
#7
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P.A.C.M.A.N: Scammed U
 P.A.C.M.A.N: Byee

LOL

I have no idea what that cloud account you are buying but are you not able to buy it from an official website?  
You need to prove that PACMAN really owns @PACMANON telegram account. It probably is in your messages in bitcointalk account. Without the two accounts linked together, it will only appear you are accusing someone.  

It's a good thing it's just a small amount though but the scammer this is getting bolder.
Here is his Telegram account!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64113394
hero member
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June 23, 2024, 11:01:59 AM
#6
Proof of Payment: https://imgur.com/a/DDf7pKW
PM/Chat Logs: Second before he delete the Telegram chat I took an screenshot https://imgur.com/a/DDf7pKW

This is not a solid proof to connect someone Bitcointalk to telegram account unless you can provide that he contacted you using the Bitcointalk account and stated that he will use that specific telegram username.

Despite the suspect here is low rank, anyone can use someone Bitcointalk account to deal with you on telegram through impersonation.

Please provide screenshot of telegram username and the message that will link to his bitcointalk account.
hero member
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June 23, 2024, 10:59:30 AM
#5
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P.A.C.M.A.N: Scammed U
 P.A.C.M.A.N: Byee

LOL

I have no idea what that cloud account you are buying but are you not able to buy it from an official website?  
You need to prove that PACMAN really owns @PACMANON telegram account. It probably is in your messages in bitcointalk account. Without the two accounts linked together, it will only appear you are accusing someone.  

It's a good thing it's just a small amount though but the scammer this is getting bolder.
full member
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June 23, 2024, 10:56:23 AM
#4
He deposited your money to Stake.com , probably a gambling addict.
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