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Quote from: jakelyson on July 16, 2019, 06:43:25 PM

Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find habits he can exploit as well.

It took months and months of preparation before the fight and boxers and coaches are not only for training and practices because they are also into watching at studying the opponent in every single way so I guess that’s already given
The mistake of Pacquiao against Marquez is him being so aggressive and being confident because for how many times he had already beaten Marquez and he didn’t expect a single bout will bring him down

You might be right cause aggressive and overconfident act also leads to loss of a fighter which has already beaten down his opponent several time but I believe the act of not being calculative to guard the open spot when he throws his punches is the reason because if there's no open spot Marquez won't have had the chance to hit him hard.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on July 17, 2019, 12:12:02 PM

Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find habits he can exploit as well.

It took months and months of preparation before the fight and boxers and coaches are not only for training and practices because they are also into watching at studying the opponent in every single way so I guess that’s already given
The mistake of Pacquiao against Marquez is him being so aggressive and being confident because for how many times he had already beaten Marquez and he didn’t expect a single bout will bring him down

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Pacman no doubt became the legend boxer in his time up to the present in the entire world.
I saw how his life progress until He reached to became one of a billionaire boxer, and yet He has also have
a successful carrier in politics were He started from congressman now and one of the senators of His country.
Even his opponent is 10 years younger to Him, I think age does not matter and not a big deal. I am pretty
sure majority of the people's bet is for sure goes to Pacquiao fo course.

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I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

I think you got it wrong. If those are the odds, you will have to bet $154 on Manny to win $100. As for Thurman, you will need to bet just $100 to be $136 richer. That's how those odds work.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 17, 2019, 07:17:27 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on July 17, 2019, 12:12:02 PM

I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

It's hard to understand but maybe because Thurman is showing something like what Broner has done to overconfident and also people have seen the kind of training Manny has been doing, and Manny just said that he is really pissed of with Thurman, now we have never seen Manny got pissed of to any of his opponents, the pressure is on Thurman, he could end up another Broner.

If only we we're able to record the day to day change of the odds, the press release of both fighters and also the forecasts of boxing analysts, maybe we can figure it out. Thurman talks trash a lot, and it think he wants Manny to engage on talking trash but I don't see Manny doing that, he is just so kind and full of smiles but dangerous inside the ring.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on July 17, 2019, 12:12:02 PM

I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

It's hard to understand but maybe because Thurman is showing something like what Broner has done to overconfident and also people have seen the kind of training Manny has been doing, and Manny just said that he is really pissed of with Thurman, now we have never seen Manny got pissed of to any of his opponents, the pressure is on Thurman, he could end up another Broner.

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 17, 2019, 04:32:07 AM

Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find habits he can exploit as well.

Marquez was an expert counter puncher. That was his game. We have seen how he proved to be the best on it during his early fights with Manny Pacquiao. He was so convinced of his counter punching with their previous fights that he didn't believe to have lost to Manny even once. Well, the KO of Manny from Marquez was the latter's best counter punch in all their fights. Manny was faking a punch and Marquez caught him with a deadly blow.

And you also have to consider that that ko was in their 4th fight. So marquez actually had the luxury of figuring out pacquaio 4 times. Something that thurman doesn't have. Though the kid is skilled and pacquiao's age is something he canntake advantage of, manny's experience would probably be enough to secure him a win. The problem is, this will only push the guy to continue fighting despite his age. A loss, i think, would be beneficial since he may have to consider retiring then.

Firstly, I don't see Pacman retiring without giving Amir Khan the fight he asked for and I don't see him retiring also without fighting Mayweather again to proof his worth.
With that been said, Manny experience won't give him an advantage of winning his fight against Thurman because Thurman have spent much of his previous years fighting people who are experienced than him and he could easily gather what he gained fighting to beat Manny.

I feel sorry y'all which choose Manny as the winner.

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I checked Nitrogensports 2 days from the date of the event the odds are as follows

Manny Pacquiao -154

Keith Thurman +136

That means if you bet on Manny $100 USD, you will go home with $164 USD, unlike betting on Thurman, bet $100 USD, you go home $136 USD richer. What happened? Whats with the sudden turn of events?

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 17, 2019, 04:32:07 AM

Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM

Damn, Pacquiao is actually looking quite old.

I'm actually going to have to say that Thurman has a better chance of winning now, Pacquiao looked slow in the vid.

I'd still give him the slightest edge now, 55% chance to win by UD.

Dont be so confident because being old doesnt mean he's slow. The video can be edited or chooses the part which Manny has slow punches. I really believe that experience is the best investment in boxing and i know he will win the fight even with a 12 round boxing game. Manny is on shape now and i cant wait to see the results.

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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM

Damn, Pacquiao is actually looking quite old.

I'm actually going to have to say that Thurman has a better chance of winning now, Pacquiao looked slow in the vid.

I'd still give him the slightest edge now, 55% chance to win by UD.

I think even Manny Pacquiao is older than Thurman is doesn't mean that he have advatanges. That's only a video and we can see the real Manny in the boxing ring when he fight and Im really sure that he is still fast like before. But you are right high chance for Manny to win by UD but also I want to win him by KO. 4 days more we see who really win.

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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM

Damn, Pacquiao is actually looking quite old.

I'm actually going to have to say that Thurman has a better chance of winning now, Pacquiao looked slow in the vid.

I'd still give him the slightest edge now, 55% chance to win by UD.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on July 16, 2019, 09:59:17 PM

Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM

He does sound confident all the time, I won't be surprise that every interview he will keep praising himself and underestimating Manny.
What I like to see is the post fight interview if Manny will win, maybe that time he will stop and accept his loss, but if he will be like Broner who says "I beat that boy" LOL..

I would not respect this guy anymore.

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 16, 2019, 06:43:25 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on July 16, 2019, 06:43:25 PM

Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find habits he can exploit as well.

Marquez was an expert counter puncher. That was his game. We have seen how he proved to be the best on it during his early fights with Manny Pacquiao. He was so convinced of his counter punching with their previous fights that he didn't believe to have lost to Manny even once. Well, the KO of Manny from Marquez was the latter's best counter punch in all their fights. Manny was faking a punch and Marquez caught him with a deadly blow.

And you also have to consider that that ko was in their 4th fight. So marquez actually had the luxury of figuring out pacquaio 4 times. Something that thurman doesn't have. Though the kid is skilled and pacquiao's age is something he canntake advantage of, manny's experience would probably be enough to secure him a win. The problem is, this will only push the guy to continue fighting despite his age. A loss, i think, would be beneficial since he may have to consider retiring then.

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Here is the first sit down with both of them- ONE TIME sounds real confident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzaD_Kp_GkM

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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find habits he can exploit as well.

Marquez was an expert counter puncher. That was his game. We have seen how he proved to be the best on it during his early fights with Manny Pacquiao. He was so convinced of his counter punching with their previous fights that he didn't believe to have lost to Manny even once. Well, the KO of Manny from Marquez was the latter's best counter punch in all their fights. Manny was faking a punch and Marquez caught him with a deadly blow.

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Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Yeah, but normally boxers target the weak habits of their opponents. those habits are hard to change. As the fight goes longer habits will come out. Just like how pacquaio throws knockout punches leading with his head. That is how Marquez koed him. When he went for the kill, he leaned forward with his head open. Marquez countered him. Thurman can study pacquiao and find habits he can exploit as well.

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Quote from: ruthwithers1980 on June 13, 2019, 01:52:25 AM

Keith Thurman is confident he can "figure out" Manny Pacquiao-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKI5kiqca8

Thurman Versus Pacquiao: Can Thurman Turn The Odds And Knock Pacquiao Out?-
https://www.ibtimes.com/thurman-versus-pacquiao-can-thurman-turn-odds-knock-pacquiao-out-2806676

It's easy to say than doing it, boxers have a lots of time reviewing their opponents style and to keep finding good style to take the edge of winning but from that point the opposing party also taking its time to find ways to counter the possibilities, new sets of combinations and new sets of training practices, it will be a good match seeing both fighters to be aggressive to win this match.

Anything can happen when you are already in the ring which counter strategies would have some counters too thats why its been unpredictable.Thurman is way too confident on beating up Pacquiao but lets see if those words do have some power or just purely an empty air when they are already inside the ring.4 days left for the fight and preparation.
Favorites had been switched up but still the odds arent really that too far.

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I UPDATED THE TITLE FROM "PACQUIAO STANDS AS UNDERDOG VS THURMAN" TO "PACQUIAO NOW STANDS AS FAVORITE VS THURMAN" BECAUSE THE RECENT ODDS ON ONLINE SPORTSBOOKS NOW SHOW A SURGE IN PACQUIAO'S ODDS OF WINNING AGAINST THURMAN, THUS THE TURNING OF THE TABLES.

Manny Pacquiao is now 40 years old, 10 years older than his opponent. He's past his prime years. His attention is so much divided, esp. now that he's very much needed in the Philippine senate (yes, he's a senator in his country), as the midterm senatorial elections have just concluded.

Thurman, on the other hand is young and undefeated. He's very hard on training with so much focus just on boxing. These were the main reasons Thurman was favored by online sportsbooks. But things have already changed. Pacquiao is now the favorite.

Interesting read: Pacquiao Stands as Underdog vs Thurman

Now that the fight is coming near, the odds of course are favoring Manny Pacquiao. Most of big gamblers are making hypes favoring Thurman but of course it's just a hype where in they encourage people to bet on him yet, when they do those big gamblers will put their money to Pacquiao's. I don't think Manny will be an underdog in this fight though.

I still think that Manny is still capable of giving his opponent an amazing punch. Though he is more matured than Thurman but this won't be a hindrance from winning this fight because he still got the passion and fierce in boxing.Thurman may have been into a hard training but it won't be a guarantee that he can beat Manny this time.

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