Telegram username: @fc_matt
Metamask address: 0x0Bd838ba203C6763bbEF2e0A1B9D81F866d97F95
Network: Rinkeby
Topic: [PAID TESTERS NEEDED] Zenland Blockchain Escrow Platform | Up to $30 (closed) - page 4. (Read 2422 times)
August 19, 2022, 12:23:14 PM
August 19, 2022, 12:15:54 PM
Hi, I'm the founder of Zenland, I'd like to thank everyone participating in the testing for sharing their feedback with us as we continue working with applicants. In the mean time, I want to address questions I see above and update you on where we are at this point and how your suggestions are handled.
Did your devs ever fix those issues with Binance Testnet contract deployment I PM'ed you about? That bug is kind of a show-stopper.
Also, the contract deployment fees for ETH Mainnet are excessively large (about $25-$100 depending on the network fee rate). What gives?
August 19, 2022, 11:07:40 AM
I tried the zen.land platform on Rinbeky test network and this is my experienced and what i noticed.
The most attractive thing is the simplicity with the platform where you don’t need to register or open an account or put any of your informations to use the escrow service, both seller or buyer can create the contract and set the details they want, such as the due time and the time the seller will have to offer his service before the buyer can open a dispute and get his money back. And same thing for the seller.
Who ever create the contract he will get this page and wait for the second part approval, this is me as a buyer and after that i logged in as the seller i noticed there is a message on my platform which is a great thing
Now i would be able to approve this contract on my part as a seller
And once again the buyer will receive a notification as the seller has approved the contract, and after paying the platform fees as i set in the beginning of the contract that both seller and buyer pays 50x50 of the fees. Then as i buyer i should transfer the amount of which we agreed and it’s an easy process and everything is automatic with the platform
After full filling and providing what the buyer bought you can release his funds and leave a review from both parts
I also noticed the dispute option in case there was a misunderstanding or a scam try from one of the sides, zen.land has agents that can help both parts.
Update: i tried another contract so i can open a dispute and invite an agent to resolve it, it’s also working fine and only taking a very small fees for that, plus the platform is working perfectly on both mobile and computer.
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These are some good points zen.land platform offer and which that i liked, first is the different networks that can be used as binance and ethereum so you don’t have to look up every time for another platform that accept your coins, it’s all in one and easy to change between networks.
The platform doesn’t take any high fees beside offering agents to escrow your trade and resolving disputes, and you can let the seller or the buyer pay for the fees or even share the fees 50x50.
Both sides can chat freely and set conditions before approving the contracts.
update: payment receive. Pleasure testing your platform and definitely will be using it
The most attractive thing is the simplicity with the platform where you don’t need to register or open an account or put any of your informations to use the escrow service, both seller or buyer can create the contract and set the details they want, such as the due time and the time the seller will have to offer his service before the buyer can open a dispute and get his money back. And same thing for the seller.
Who ever create the contract he will get this page and wait for the second part approval, this is me as a buyer and after that i logged in as the seller i noticed there is a message on my platform which is a great thing
Now i would be able to approve this contract on my part as a seller
And once again the buyer will receive a notification as the seller has approved the contract, and after paying the platform fees as i set in the beginning of the contract that both seller and buyer pays 50x50 of the fees. Then as i buyer i should transfer the amount of which we agreed and it’s an easy process and everything is automatic with the platform
After full filling and providing what the buyer bought you can release his funds and leave a review from both parts
I also noticed the dispute option in case there was a misunderstanding or a scam try from one of the sides, zen.land has agents that can help both parts.
Update: i tried another contract so i can open a dispute and invite an agent to resolve it, it’s also working fine and only taking a very small fees for that, plus the platform is working perfectly on both mobile and computer.
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________
These are some good points zen.land platform offer and which that i liked, first is the different networks that can be used as binance and ethereum so you don’t have to look up every time for another platform that accept your coins, it’s all in one and easy to change between networks.
The platform doesn’t take any high fees beside offering agents to escrow your trade and resolving disputes, and you can let the seller or the buyer pay for the fees or even share the fees 50x50.
Both sides can chat freely and set conditions before approving the contracts.
update: payment receive. Pleasure testing your platform and definitely will be using it
August 19, 2022, 11:00:13 AM
I have problem while testing that i couldn't figure it out.
So i have deployed the contract and accepeted it from the seller's account but when i try to transfer 1 usdt i get this error:
I have 20 BUSD there so i don't know why it's saying insufficient balance, maybe because it's a differenct currency ? is there a way to change it so that i can transfer BUSD and not USDT ?
*fixed*
Report:
I used the Binance smart test chain to test out the Zenland platform. It's an escrow smart contract on the blockchian, very simple to use and the fees are low, so here's my review:
When you first visit the zenland app and login through metamask it will look something like this :
The UI looks great and it's pretty smooth and responsive, so no complaints in that regard. When starting a new escrow contract, I selected my wallet as the buyer's account and another wallet as the seller's account, then I proceeded by filling out the rest of the form shown in the page above by adding a name to the contract and a small description , specifying the duration of the contract and also the amount and currency that I will use to pay.
When the contract was created, I logged in to the seller's account and could see all the details of the contract. A chat window will open up as well, where you can have further discussions with the buyer. I accepted the contract, then went to the buyer's account and deployed it. After that, I transferred the agreed amount to the contract. I was having a problem with this before because apparently I had BSCT USDT instead of BSCT BUSD (which is the coin i had funds in) as the currency and I was getting an "insufficient amount" error because of it. The transfer page shows USDT regardless of whether you're using BUSD or USDT, so that was a bit confusing. I think a good workaround to this will be to only display the currencies you have a balance in and eliminate others, kind of like when the exchange removes unsupported networks when you put in the withdrawal address.
Anyway, I fulfilled the contract requirements from the seller's account, and that's basically it. The contract was completed and you can leave a review to the seller.
Edit:
payment received.
So i have deployed the contract and accepeted it from the seller's account but when i try to transfer 1 usdt i get this error:
I have 20 BUSD there so i don't know why it's saying insufficient balance, maybe because it's a differenct currency ? is there a way to change it so that i can transfer BUSD and not USDT ?
*fixed*
Report:
I used the Binance smart test chain to test out the Zenland platform. It's an escrow smart contract on the blockchian, very simple to use and the fees are low, so here's my review:
When you first visit the zenland app and login through metamask it will look something like this :
The UI looks great and it's pretty smooth and responsive, so no complaints in that regard. When starting a new escrow contract, I selected my wallet as the buyer's account and another wallet as the seller's account, then I proceeded by filling out the rest of the form shown in the page above by adding a name to the contract and a small description , specifying the duration of the contract and also the amount and currency that I will use to pay.
When the contract was created, I logged in to the seller's account and could see all the details of the contract. A chat window will open up as well, where you can have further discussions with the buyer. I accepted the contract, then went to the buyer's account and deployed it. After that, I transferred the agreed amount to the contract. I was having a problem with this before because apparently I had BSCT USDT instead of BSCT BUSD (which is the coin i had funds in) as the currency and I was getting an "insufficient amount" error because of it. The transfer page shows USDT regardless of whether you're using BUSD or USDT, so that was a bit confusing. I think a good workaround to this will be to only display the currencies you have a balance in and eliminate others, kind of like when the exchange removes unsupported networks when you put in the withdrawal address.
Anyway, I fulfilled the contract requirements from the seller's account, and that's basically it. The contract was completed and you can leave a review to the seller.
Edit:
payment received.
August 19, 2022, 04:00:11 AM
i just try the website with a few contracts made and after all for me it's awesome
But i want to ask if you can make the release option on the buyer contract can't be clicked before the seller fulfill the contract?
Because if the buyer let's say "accidentally" click the release button without the seller fulfilling the contract then the money is just sent to the seller instantly.
because i just try to click the release button but there is still no notification if the seller already fulfilled the contract it would be good if there is a notification about that.
so if you added that feature it will be more secure for the buyer
i have a few questions
1. will you accept other cryptocurrencies in the agreed amount section?
2. about the Review, How we can see other people's reviews? because i just try to search other people's addy that joins in this tester and sees their reviews but i can't find it.
edit: i just received the payment
But i want to ask if you can make the release option on the buyer contract can't be clicked before the seller fulfill the contract?
Because if the buyer let's say "accidentally" click the release button without the seller fulfilling the contract then the money is just sent to the seller instantly.
because i just try to click the release button but there is still no notification if the seller already fulfilled the contract it would be good if there is a notification about that.
so if you added that feature it will be more secure for the buyer
i have a few questions
1. will you accept other cryptocurrencies in the agreed amount section?
2. about the Review, How we can see other people's reviews? because i just try to search other people's addy that joins in this tester and sees their reviews but i can't find it.
edit: i just received the payment
August 18, 2022, 02:38:09 PM
Thanks to the magic of the blockchain, wallets are easy to generate with a few clicks here and there but how will you encourage buyers/sellers to stick to the same wallet address when it comes to using the Zenland ecosystem?
August 18, 2022, 10:36:28 AM
Hi, I'm the founder of Zenland, I'd like to thank everyone participating in the testing for sharing their feedback with us as we continue working with applicants. In the mean time, I want to address questions I see above and update you on where we are at this point and how your suggestions are handled.
Once the case is disputed (usually because the seller missed the deadline for order fulfillment) it is settled between a buyer and seller and so, the initial due date no longer applies (which will be indicated as we are updating the tool). The dispute duration depends on how parties resolve it and cannot be simply restricted by time. At this point a buyer and a seller negotiate through the contract chat messaging. Later on, if the case is unsettled either of them can call an Agent to resolve. Contract chat messages and all contract conditions let the Agent reach a fair conclusion. Check out for more: https://docs.zen.land/contract-actions/dispute
We've just added a "seller/buyer" tag for reviews after your suggestion. It is on the development server and will be in full use within a few days. Also, about spotting/tagging a fake or paid review, it is already on our To Do list.
The full profile analytics will show you how many contracts the person has made, what is the average price of the contract, how many disputes he had and how many contracts were successfully released without any issues. We expect it to be ready by the end of the year.
That's a good feature to have that will be added in the upcoming versions.
Don't think that having a set budget for testing equals being dishonest. Yes, the project is still in its early stages and our will to get the Zenland app better, team's dedication, and my personal savings is all we have now. The one thing I know (and the experience with the forum members confirms it) we stand by the promises we make and are not here to wriggle out of paying testers who help us improve.
That said, the total number of testers that would get a reward from us should have been disclosed initially. That is a reasonable claim and it will not be overlooked the next time.
Thank you for comment.
The team is already working on eliminating the confusion here. The balance every user sees in the top right on login shows the funds in your Zenland (in-app) wallet from where the service fee is paid. This fee has been waived for all testers while we are in beta stage, and so we are depositing a certain sum to deduct Zenland fee from it. More about Zenland fee and how it’s paid is here: https://docs.zen.land/fundamentals/zenland-contract/zenland-fee-payer
The reviews left after the contract completion are public and can be seen on seller’s or buyer’s profile pages. The more contracts you complete, the more reviews there will be displayed. We’ve added them to let users dealing with each other see whether or not the buyer(or seller) can be trusted before initiating a contract.
Also, the bug with the token underneath the “Transfer” button has already been fixed and soon will be live. By the way, Zenland mobile version of escrow tool is currently in alpha testing and changes are being made to it.
neither Buyer / Seller could set a 'Due Date' for the dispute, and there is no information whether the initial due date before dispute is still applied
Once the case is disputed (usually because the seller missed the deadline for order fulfillment) it is settled between a buyer and seller and so, the initial due date no longer applies (which will be indicated as we are updating the tool). The dispute duration depends on how parties resolve it and cannot be simply restricted by time. At this point a buyer and a seller negotiate through the contract chat messaging. Later on, if the case is unsettled either of them can call an Agent to resolve. Contract chat messages and all contract conditions let the Agent reach a fair conclusion. Check out for more: https://docs.zen.land/contract-actions/dispute
'Review' feature, I have small suggestion on this one I will prefer to distinguish between account review as buyer and seller, some time people are good seller but when they have the money and become a buyer they do silly and ridiculous thing. Also, I don't see any feature to spot/tag a fake or paid review, I wish the developer will find some ways.
We've just added a "seller/buyer" tag for reviews after your suggestion. It is on the development server and will be in full use within a few days. Also, about spotting/tagging a fake or paid review, it is already on our To Do list.
The full profile analytics will show you how many contracts the person has made, what is the average price of the contract, how many disputes he had and how many contracts were successfully released without any issues. We expect it to be ready by the end of the year.
I would like to have a dark mode option. It's just my preference
That's a good feature to have that will be added in the upcoming versions.
This means that you are short on funds as you closed the registration for a full member and above so early. (You did not specify the total number of people whom you will select initially).
Don't think that having a set budget for testing equals being dishonest. Yes, the project is still in its early stages and our will to get the Zenland app better, team's dedication, and my personal savings is all we have now. The one thing I know (and the experience with the forum members confirms it) we stand by the promises we make and are not here to wriggle out of paying testers who help us improve.
That said, the total number of testers that would get a reward from us should have been disclosed initially. That is a reasonable claim and it will not be overlooked the next time.
Thank you for comment.
My only question would be which wallet or currency covers the Zenland fees knowing that other tokens can be sent on the platform and by the way why doesn't Zenland show the balance( 20 BUSD) am having in my wallet when drafting the contract?
The team is already working on eliminating the confusion here. The balance every user sees in the top right on login shows the funds in your Zenland (in-app) wallet from where the service fee is paid. This fee has been waived for all testers while we are in beta stage, and so we are depositing a certain sum to deduct Zenland fee from it. More about Zenland fee and how it’s paid is here: https://docs.zen.land/fundamentals/zenland-contract/zenland-fee-payer
And lastly who can see the reviews left after the contract is fulfilled?
The reviews left after the contract completion are public and can be seen on seller’s or buyer’s profile pages. The more contracts you complete, the more reviews there will be displayed. We’ve added them to let users dealing with each other see whether or not the buyer(or seller) can be trusted before initiating a contract.
Also, the bug with the token underneath the “Transfer” button has already been fixed and soon will be live. By the way, Zenland mobile version of escrow tool is currently in alpha testing and changes are being made to it.
August 17, 2022, 08:32:52 PM
I like the concept behind the Zenland Blockchain Escrow Platform simple and easy , contract 101 stuff 
...seller initiates the whole process which is an invitation to treat and Buyer accepts by virtual of accepting or going through the approve process which is going to be a game changer indeed! Only concern when setting up the contract is the possible adjustment of the fee to show were the zenland fee will be deducted from as the Zenland platform shows another balance in the top right..
Clean and nice contract, I like this !
this is what the buyer sees after seller initiates the contract, and I like the fact that if any changes are made to the contract then both parties need to be in agreement to avoid any misunderstandings before approving to proceed to the next stage....... and I must say this is a super clean interface which I tried out on PC, wonder how this would look on a mobile phone .
No sure if I should call this a bug or just a small backend error that needs adjusting, but when you get to the Transfer stage I have noticed this says USDt when I used the BUSD token as my agreed currency, btw amount is correct but currency is wrong..
Otherwise so far so good, looking forward to Zenland going live!
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My only question would be which wallet or currency covers the Zenland fees knowing that other tokens can be sent on the platform and by the way why doesn't Zenland show the balance( 20 BUSD) am having in my wallet when drafting the contract?
And lastly who can see the reviews left after the contract is fulfilled?
Update: payment has been received
thanks Team Zenland
...seller initiates the whole process which is an invitation to treat and Buyer accepts by virtual of accepting or going through the approve process which is going to be a game changer indeed! Only concern when setting up the contract is the possible adjustment of the fee to show were the zenland fee will be deducted from as the Zenland platform shows another balance in the top right.. Clean and nice contract, I like this !
this is what the buyer sees after seller initiates the contract, and I like the fact that if any changes are made to the contract then both parties need to be in agreement to avoid any misunderstandings before approving to proceed to the next stage....... and I must say this is a super clean interface which I tried out on PC, wonder how this would look on a mobile phone .
No sure if I should call this a bug or just a small backend error that needs adjusting, but when you get to the Transfer stage I have noticed this says USDt when I used the BUSD token as my agreed currency, btw amount is correct but currency is wrong..
Otherwise so far so good, looking forward to Zenland going live!
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My only question would be which wallet or currency covers the Zenland fees knowing that other tokens can be sent on the platform and by the way why doesn't Zenland show the balance( 20 BUSD) am having in my wallet when drafting the contract?
And lastly who can see the reviews left after the contract is fulfilled?
Update: payment has been received
thanks Team Zenland
August 17, 2022, 02:03:37 PM
For those using Binance as the preferred chain remember to set your custom RPC in metamask as follows
You are welcome
Code:
Enter in the BSC testnet details as follows:
Network Name: BSC Testnet
New RPC URL: https://data-seed-prebsc-1-s1.binance.org:8545
ChainID: 97
Symbol: BNB
Block Explorer URL: https://explorer.binance.org/smart-testnet (optional)
Network Name: BSC Testnet
New RPC URL: https://data-seed-prebsc-1-s1.binance.org:8545
ChainID: 97
Symbol: BNB
Block Explorer URL: https://explorer.binance.org/smart-testnet (optional)
You are welcome
August 17, 2022, 01:29:23 PM
Escrow the funds! You are new with zero reputation on the forum
Previously, OP sent me an advance payment to test their platform (twice), I sufficently trust this user that escrow is not needed here.
August 17, 2022, 11:08:42 AM
We are temporarily stopping accepting new applications from users with the rank Full Member and higher. "Member" rank users can still apply.
Meanwhile, we are reviewing responses received so far and waitlisting all eligible candidates for testing. Thank you.
Meanwhile, we are reviewing responses received so far and waitlisting all eligible candidates for testing. Thank you.
This means that you are short on funds as you closed the registration for a full member and above so early. (You did not specify the total number of people whom you will select initially).
Like some people mentioned above, either escrow the funds or you may pay people first the money and they will review it later.
August 17, 2022, 06:30:49 AM
We are temporarily stopping accepting new applications from users with the rank Full Member and higher. "Member" rank users can still apply.
Meanwhile, we are reviewing responses received so far and waitlisting all eligible candidates for testing. Thank you.
Meanwhile, we are reviewing responses received so far and waitlisting all eligible candidates for testing. Thank you.
August 16, 2022, 08:39:51 PM
Telegram username: @ArisuAIB
Metamask address: 0xd7930a156E4CC9A124EB8A903fd794B8cEfCB0C7
Network for test funds: Binance Test Network
Metamask address: 0xd7930a156E4CC9A124EB8A903fd794B8cEfCB0C7
Network for test funds: Binance Test Network
August 16, 2022, 07:52:32 PM
Hi, I am applying
Telegram username: @trarbai
Metamask Address : 0x518BE1a3C5B3295EF69357336ac6f7FaaBB5044a
Network : Rinkeby
So, the reply above has covered most of the step-by-step on how to use this Zenland Escrow. I will just add other thing that hasn't been on that reply. Overall my experience is pretty good, the process is not over-simplified, it still require multiple confirmation by both party to finally release the fund, however if I could skip 1 or 2 step that would be very much more comfortable, but if it will compromise the security then it's not necessary.
I want to make some highlight and maybe some suggestion.
1. 'Dispute' feature, as a freelance graphic designer a lot of time my client want some revisions on the design so this feature is essential. However, what lack in this feature is additional 'Due Date' for the dispute, after Buyer dispute the contract, neither Buyer / Seller could set a 'Due Date' for the dispute, and there is no information whether the initial due date before dispute is still applied. I haven't tried to 'Invite an Agent' and I suppose that's how the Buyer will be able to get their money back.
Telegram username: @trarbai
Metamask Address : 0x518BE1a3C5B3295EF69357336ac6f7FaaBB5044a
Network : Rinkeby
Code:
Edited on August 18, 2022, 03:36 AM Forum Time
~snip
So, the reply above has covered most of the step-by-step on how to use this Zenland Escrow. I will just add other thing that hasn't been on that reply. Overall my experience is pretty good, the process is not over-simplified, it still require multiple confirmation by both party to finally release the fund, however if I could skip 1 or 2 step that would be very much more comfortable, but if it will compromise the security then it's not necessary.
I want to make some highlight and maybe some suggestion.
1. 'Dispute' feature, as a freelance graphic designer a lot of time my client want some revisions on the design so this feature is essential. However, what lack in this feature is additional 'Due Date' for the dispute, after Buyer dispute the contract, neither Buyer / Seller could set a 'Due Date' for the dispute, and there is no information whether the initial due date before dispute is still applied. I haven't tried to 'Invite an Agent' and I suppose that's how the Buyer will be able to get their money back.
Before Dispute
 August 16, 2022, 06:22:46 PM
Telegram username: @Hamishv78
Metamask address: 0xCc3f52eAd165dee483c784b9fC7E1acb15A483A8 Network: Rinkeby August 16, 2022, 02:41:08 PM
Escrow the funds! You are new with zero reputation on the forum every reputation building has its beginning 1. @igebotz 2. 0x09758a15B1A12D505976Fa723b3D274b0712Ad3D 3. Binance Test Network. August 16, 2022, 02:37:32 PM
Count me in!
1. Telegram username: Cryptowoodie 2. 0x9C60E4498eBba3a58e910fa9566C15BB354487b0 3. Binance Test Network I like the concept behind the Zenland Blockchain Escrow Platform simple and easy , contract 101 stuff ...seller initiates the whole process which is an invitation to treat and Buyer accepts by virtual of accepting or going through the approve process which is going to be a game changer indeed! Only concern when setting up the contract is the possible adjustment of the fee to show were the zenland fee will be deducted from as the Zenland platform shows another balance in the top right.. Clean and nice contract, I like this ! this is what the buyer sees after seller initiates the contract, and I like the fact that if any changes are made to the contract then both parties need to be in agreement to avoid any misunderstandings before approving to proceed to the next stage....... and I must say this is a super clean interface which I tried out on PC, wonder how this would look on a mobile phone . No sure if I should call this a bug or just a small backend error that needs adjusting, but when you get to the Transfer stage I have noticed this says USDt when I used the BUSD token as my agreed currency, btw amount is correct but currency is wrong.. Otherwise so far so good, looking forward to Zenland going live! ------------------------------------ My only question would be which wallet or currency covers the Zenland fees knowing that other tokens can be sent on the platform and by the way why doesn't Zenland show the balance( 20 BUSD) am having in my wallet when drafting the contract? And lastly who can see the reviews left after the contract is fulfilled? ........... Update: payment has been received thanks Team Zenland August 16, 2022, 02:26:47 PM
I am interested to test this platform.
1. Telegram username: examplens 2. 0x925E93Ae9b4B9d550adB0062CD8D2eDa8528E62b 3. Rinkeby Test Network Escrow the funds! You are new with zero reputation on the forum every reputation building has its beginning August 16, 2022, 01:38:56 PM
1. Your Telegram username, TBA
2. One Metamask address (as a buyer), and: TBA 3. Specify the network for test funds (Rinkeby or Binance Test Network). August 16, 2022, 01:35:21 PM
1. Telegram username: nairotisasi
2. Metamask address (as a buyer) : 0x4F3e744B0E43c0A37297f47fe61De8176c439Ae8 3. The network for test funds (Binance Test Network) Step by step : 1. Address as a seller (0xc4A02f06717462AeE3bA97FB81523B7736baC9D8) makes an order to be paid by the buyer with the following details:  2. The address as a buyer (0x4F3e744B0E43c0A37297f47fe61De8176c439Ae8) received a notification from the seller's contract that I have to pay for the transaction with the following details:  3. Approve the previous order to confirm:  4. It only takes a few seconds and the payment process has been confirmed: Transaction ID: 0x583b4761681844fbcf682dbe9f2cdb29661091d463f10b134bf65d9bd2fb1063 5. Reopen the seller's account and get a notification that the order has been paid for by the buyer's : 0x4F3e744B0E43c0A37297f47fe61De8176c439Ae8   Notes: This is my first time doing a transaction with the site as escrow because I've never done it before. As an experience, it certainly felt strange when I started, instead I placed an order with the Polygon network where the buyer's position did not have a balance. Finally, I tested with the Binance Test Network as above. I have summarized the whole process along with step-by-step screenshots. If it is still unsatisfactory and does not meet the requirements (no problem). I just wanted to participate and at the same time test how effective the escrow tool you offer is. Because the assessment is objective and if from 10 to 100 from me for your escrow tool is 75. Seller's address: 0xc4A02f06717462AeE3bA97FB81523B7736baC9D8 Buyer's address: 0x4f3e744b0e43c0a37297f47fe61de8176c439ae8 Transaction : 0x583b4761681844fbcf682dbe9f2cdb29661091d463f10b134bf65d9bd2fb1063 update: payment has been received thanks Jump to:
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