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Zenland team wishes all Bitcointalk members merry Christmas and a happy New Year ⛄⛄⛄

And, we have left 5 slots available (3 Full & Sr. Members + 2 Hero & Legendary) for testing our Marketplace. We're finishing up with the changes and updates we had in our pipeline and ideas from new testers would be much appreciated.

The following members have successfully run their tests, submitted reports, and received their rewards.

  • rdluffy
  • Coin_trader
  • MAAManda
  • Woodie
  • JeromeTash

Thank you

I would love to help test your network but I'm still in a member rank and will be glad if given the opportunity to be a tester as well.
Thanks in anticipation for a favourable response from you.
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Zenland team wishes all Bitcointalk members merry Christmas and a happy New Year ⛄⛄⛄

And, we have left 5 slots available (3 Full & Sr. Members + 2 Hero & Legendary) for testing our Marketplace. We're finishing up with the changes and updates we had in our pipeline and ideas from new testers would be much appreciated.

The following members have successfully run their tests, submitted reports, and received their rewards.

  • rdluffy
  • Coin_trader
  • MAAManda
  • Woodie
  • JeromeTash

Thank you
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Note: Before I start my review, I just want to let you know that I'm using Android phone and tablet when I do the whole test process as buyer and seller. My comment will be based on my experience using this device. I made my review without reading other user review to make sure that I'm using the app from scratch for a more organic feedback.

Item Creation and Listing:
  • I have no problem on doing this part due to the info button that contains the details of every items that needs to be fill up on all the required field. I'm just wondering why does the minimum delivery date is 12 hours? Why it can't be set to a lower time frame which makes the buyer easily get the item?
  • On choosing the network,  Is it more easy to make the list in drop down form and state the name of the network instead of just the symbol of the Blockchain network? It will be more safe for a potential mistake on choosing Blockchain network and easy for newbie to identify which Blockchain they are choosing in case you support more network in the future.
  • I like the idea that the item is not yet active right after it was finished creatingg so that I can preview all the details and whether I need to change something on the terms and details before I list it in public.

Item buying and selling process

  • The notification feature of Zenland is really helpful on this part to easily access my open contract and to know if someone purchase. All the step by step process done is also being notified for both seller and buyer to make both party updated Incase they do the transaction in different time. The contract page too is updating real time for both buyer and seller using my device which is very cool since there's no need to refresh just to check for update. I only click the sync button once but it's due to my connection problem.
  • I notice that the item being sold in an existing openncontract can still be edit on the item tab of the seller so I try to test whether I can change some details of the item despite there's already ongoing contract for both buyer and seller. I manage to change the details of the item but it didn't reflect on the ongoing contract transaction but instead it only applies to the new contract after the changes happened which is good for the buyer side since seller can't alter the items he is selling.
  • Next, I made a mistake on using the currency. I use the default BUSD testnet instead the Zenland provided USDT, I just realized that I'm using wrong BUSD because of the contract address of the BUSD token available on the contract information that is helpful for buyer to avoid mistake on choosing the right token contract address.
  • Lastly, Is there a way to null and void the existing contract without finishing the transaction? I made a mistake for not checking the pre approved box and I don't know how to close the existing contract so that I can sell the item in new settings. This null and void button serves as cancella tion of the contract which both party should agree before it will be processed.


Conclusion: As a previous tester of Zenland escrow service, I would say that this new feature for buying and selling of NFT item in your platform is very safe for all type of user especially for newbie due to its straight forward feature and info buttons to guide them. The transaction is very seamless all throughout the process because it has live updates on what's happening in the contract.

I just want to request for an easy share link for an item which seller will just do one click to copy the share link for the listed item for an easier sharing of item sales.

This is the best escrow app and it has a potential to become popular here in the forum especially on the marketplace section. I will definitely use your app once it was live. GL
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Hello, I've participated in the escrow tool testing phase as well. Would love to try out the marketplace and provide my honest feedback as well. Smiley
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Hello everyone!

I'd like to thank everyone for contributing to Zenland by making suggestions and performing the tests. We keep track of all fixes made since our first beta campaign (Aug 19) in the changelog https://docs.zen.land/extra/changelog and you are welcome to look into it 🙂 Of course, there are more really good ideas we received (and hopefully will) but are yet to implement. Those are added to our To Do list and will be implemented as we close priority tasks.

Meanwhile, I've noticed a few questions here and would like to answer them.

Could I get some clarity, during the fulfillment stage, why is the release button active on the buyer's side when this stage heavily relies on the seller delivering the product or service to the buyer ??
--> Make the buyer's release button inactive until the seller fulfill their part of the contract and confirms.
Initially, the Release button has been left active for a buyer in case the seller fulfills the order but does not want to pay a gas fee for confirming the transaction and convinces the buyer (who already inspected the item) to release funds. In a way that is an option for sellers to save gas and make the service/product cost less for buyers. Taking multiple requests from past and recent reports we have decided to make Release button inactive before the seller completes the order. The required changes are in progress and will be live in the upcoming release.


--> I imagine people will sell digital products, and is there any way to make the process automatic, like a automatic message in product X when someone buys?
The seller actually receives a notification when buyer clicks Buy and then, Approve buttons. It reads "Approved contract #12 (for example) has been created". I have just re-checked it to make sure it works. As the person who takes that action (Approve), the buyer does not need to see it.


When the item creator succeeds in making their item, the status of the item immediately becomes active by default, this is to avoid confusion from the item maker like me, LOL.
It really makes little sense to ask sellers to set activation manually. This has been fixed and once the dev server is merged, will be live on beta.


IMO, it's better if the selection of the network and token supported by the seller is done at the end of the process, not at the beginning (TBH, this is very confusing).
This has both sides. There are people who prefer to see how to pay before they take any action (click to buy), but I see your point and am taking note of it.


I also don't like the home view of this platform, why not immediately display the various items that sellers on this platform offer instead of just the metamask login menu?
The login page will be preceded by the marketplace main page once we complete internal work with item contracts. It is on our roadmap for Q1 2023.


It was fairly good with the help of instructions in the OP, but how about a new user who has not read the instructions in the OP?
It may have a learning curve for new users, but can be resolved with assisting materials like explainer videos, user documentation, etc. We will prepare and add a 2-minute demo before the official release. 


--> Adding items needs to be a little more direct rather than checking out under my items. I think "Add Item" or "Post item/advert" button should in the homepage like "Create Contract"

--> When filling in the information, the Tx button seemed not to give any effect on the texts. I was wondering what it does or what it's purpose is, Please check it out.

--> Delivery time should be a little flexible to at least maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes etc

--> Price and Zenland fee per sale should be indicated in the base value of the tokens used, such as gUSDC and ETH rather than using only the fiat value USD to avoid confusion in the slight differences in values.
Suggestions #1 and #3 will be reviewed as we receive more user feedback.

Tx button is one of the other formatting options in the item description box. Its role is to clear formatting and will have an effect on text only if it has been formatted (bolded, underlined, etc.).

The item price from inside the seller's account only displays a numeric value because of the multiple tokens option. On other pages where the buyer has chosen the network/token, the token and value are displayed side-by-side (for example, 5 gUSDC) On the other hand, a Zenland fee does not have a set currency and displays the dollar equivalent. It is paid separately from the seller's internal wallet which can be topped up with BTC, ETH, DAI, USDT, etc., and displayed on the dashboard in dollar equivalent.


When creating a new item and there is a slight network disruption as noted by this message, "Contract operations are disabled due to connection loss. Please check ~
This has already been looked into. It makes sense to make the button active again when the connection is restored.


--> The link of items under my items should be similar to the links of items under profile in case the user wants to share the link of the item he has advertised to someone else
This is a well-noted imperfection that may impact an item's accessibility. It is on our priority list, and soon both links will open the item page.


--> Item/advert once created can not be deleted (if there is a delete option, then I pretty sure it’s hard to locate)
The item can be reset to inactive and it will no longer be visible on the profile or accessible for a contract. The delete option has been added to our To Do list.


--> The created item also has a buy button on the seller's side. This should be only on the buyer's side.
Yes, the seller can see and interact with the item added but cannot create a contract. The button is there in case the seller wants to check how the contract with the item looks from the buyer's view.


I had to physically refresh the page in order for me to see the message that the transfer was successful and that I may proceed with the order
Good catch, this is a bug that has been reported to dev team. All applicable fixes will be made before the next version release.


N.B. Please also add the dark mode for the marketplace. It would be great.
Dark mode for the marketplace and the entire app is the go-to for many users, and for sure is in plan Smiley
legendary
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The Testing was done using two different browsers (Chrome for the seller and Firefox for the buyer)

On the seller's side

A. Addition of an item

It was fairly good with the help of instructions in the OP, but how about a new user who has not read the instructions in the OP?
It would definitely be so hard of a new user.

Suggestions

--> Adding items needs to be a little more direct rather than checking out under my items. I think "Add Item" or "Post item/advert" button should in the homepage like "Create Contract"

--> When filling in the information, the Tx button seemed not to give any effect on the texts. I was wondering what it does or what it's purpose is, Please check it out.

--> Delivery time should be a little flexible to at least maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes etc

--> Price and Zenland fee per sale should be indicated in the base value of the tokens used, such as gUSDC and ETH rather than using only the fiat value USD to avoid confusion in the slight differences in values.



When creating a new item and there is a slight network disruption as noted by this message, "Contract operations are disabled due to connection loss. Please check your network settings and refresh the page." it leads to a couple of problems

1. Refreshing, everything is erased, making the user to refill the information afresh. It would be good if the page would auto refresh in the background once
the network is restored instead of one having to reconnect the wallet again after refreshing.



2. If one just closes the dialogue box and does not refresh, he/she will be able to fill in all the information, but the add button will still remain faded out even when the network has been restored. This can put the user into confusion, thinking what could have gone wrong. I spent over 15 minutes trying to figure out what I had entered wrongly.



--> The link of items under my items should be similar to the links of items under profile in case the user wants to share the link of the item he has advertised to someone else

For example

Link under items in profile - https://beta.zen.land/profile/0xd531fd889935d4f05c072da96dbab42645f78985/items/hrtgrqegertg-23 (working if accessed by someone else)
Link under my items - https://beta.zen.land/items/hrtgrqegertg-23 (not working if accessed by someone else) This should be the same as the above link.

--> Item/advert once created can not be deleted (if there is a delete option, then I pretty sure it’s hard to locate)

--> The created item also has a buy button on the seller's side. This should be only on the buyer's side.



B. Transfers

There were some challenges I faced;

After the transfer was successful, confirmed as per the blockchain and the platform from the buyer's side. Nothing happened on the seller's side. Even when I synced with the blockchain, which I thought was the purpose of the button.

Instead, I had to physically refresh the page in order for me to see the message that the transfer was successful and that I may proceed with the order

Suggestion

--> Make the seller's page to auto-refresh just like the buyer's page does once the transfer is successful



C. Fulfillment

The buyer's release button was active even before the seller had fulfilled the contract conditions. This can open room for scam in case the buyer ignorantly released before the seller has finished fulfilling their part

Suggestion

--> Make the buyer's release button inactive until the seller fulfill their part of the contract and confirms.

No challenge in the remaining part of the contract completion and writing reviews



N.B. Please also add the dark mode for the marketplace. It would be great.
legendary
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Thanks Zenland, I already received my payment  Cheesy

I hope I helped you and if you need anything more, please contact me via PM
I'll continue to do some tests, and if I find any error/bug I'll contact you
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Zenland Marketplace Review By MAAManda

1. Adding Item (Seller Side)
In this phase I didn't have any trouble at all, after I went to "My Items" -> "Add Item", I found a form that contains several things that I have to fill in, such as item name, add image for the item, description, delivery time, buyer protection time, price, network for payment purpose and 2 additional settings (one off product & pre approved item).


But after I managed to add the item that I want to offer, from the buyer's account side, I can't find the item that I made from the seller's side. Turns out I have to change the status of my item to active first.
Suggestion: When the item creator succeeds in making their item, the status of the item immediately becomes active by default, this is to avoid confusion from the item maker like me, LOL.

2. Item Buying (Buyer Side)
After making the item from the seller's side active, I immediately looked for it through the seller's Zenland account link, you can find it here too: https://beta.zen.land/profile/0xca234d6d9474966d6084b6b5462a3d21c36c132b/items.

When I chose the item offered by the Seller, I was quite confused about the next process because I couldn't click the "Buy Now" button, It turned out that I had to first select the network and token that was supported by the seller before the "Buy Now" button could be clicked.
Suggestion: IMO, it's better if the selection of the network and token supported by the seller is done at the end of the process, not at the beginning (TBH, this is very confusing).

Then, after I click the "Buy Now" button, it goes to the page for approval which contains information regarding the items being sold by the seller, then I click "Approve". After clicking "Approve", then I was also directed to a deployment contract, there were no difficulties at this stage and also the payment transfer stage.

3. Completion (Seller Side)


4. Payment Release (Buyer Side)

5. Conclusion
In general I don't find anything wrong with this platform like bugs and others. But I'm just a little confused about all the processes involved, I think it's a little complicated and might confuse the user. Besides that, I also don't like the home view of this platform, why not immediately display the various items that sellers on this platform offer instead of just the metamask login menu?. Even so, I still like some of the features available on this platform such as the many payment methods from various networks and the chat feature between sellers and buyers after the contract is deployed.

Note: I did this review using 2 Metamask accounts from 2 different browsers (Chrome and Firefox)

legendary
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I'm ready to give my test/opinion/review

I followed exactly the steps explained in OP's thread, so:

1 - I logged in two different browsers in Metamask (Microsoft's Edge and Brave Browser)
2 - As a seller it's easy to find the section: My Itens -> Add Item -> Complete the form -> Add





3 - After that you go to the page of My Itens and my product is already there, just need to click the Slide Bar to be Active


4 - I grabbed the link of the "store" and open with my second wallet, the buyer.



5 - I saw that everything was there, picture, explanation, informations, accepted coins to pay and after I chose the coin and network the button Buy Now is active, just need to click, next you can check the informations and aprove.





6 - It will go to a new screen where is easy to understand what to do next, just click the blue button "Deploy" and confirm in Metamask, after that the button Transfer will automatically appear, now you need to interact with Metamask again to confirm transaction.




7 - Now the site automatically inform you that your Contract is active, just need to wait the seller to fulfill the conditions.




8 - Back to the seller I can see in my contracts that there's one active, very informative and easy to find. I just need to click them and it informs the contract is active, I can proceed with my buyer. I can chat with the person, delivery the product and click in Complete.





9 - Now as a buyer I check if the product is right and I can do nothing, just leaving the time to contract ends, I can release imediately or I can open a dispute. (The buyer can chat to seller, and/or can ask help for Zenland to analyze the case). I opted to release in this case.




10 - After that, there's the final step to leave a review for the Seller and Buyer, both can give stars and make a comment.



Notes:
--> I did these transactions a few times, not only once or twice, everytime trying something diffent, opening a dispute, editing the item, activate and deactivating the item, trying the avatar, pictures, descriptions, tried in my desktop and laptop.
--> I don't know if this is good or not  Cheesy but honestly I didn't find any single bug or error during the process, I wish I had something to give to you, but not a single issue.
--> I want to emphasize the great UX and design of your service, the colors are working perfectly, it's clean, professional and easy to navigate.
--> All the links I tested are working, the documentation is also good and well explained.
--> I imagine people will sell digital products, and is there any way to make the process automatic, like a automatic message in product X when someone buys?

--> One last thing I want to point out, the little info button on all items are extremely helpful to undertand the whole process.



I'll keep looking for bugs ok, and if I found one I'll make a new post or send an MP
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Review Done: this was a great challenge, really enjoyed it Smiley
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So I had to populate my sellers profile with some product or service which I did do by adding items relatable to the forum which is, Bitcointalk announcement thread and coin creation which can be seen on this link>>> https://beta.zen.land/profile/0x45a07e2637ead5f5d7cef1e16b84d2b7f2b285c0/items or https://beta.zen.land/profile/MrSatoshTech/items . The Sellers demo marketplace can be seen below



Zenlands marketplace contracts (item contracts) are really a game changer, seller can easily add several blockchain payments with ease just not sure if other popular coins such as litecoin,bitcoin etc will be supported...but great innovation all in all.



So as a buyer after using seller's contract address, am able to see items on their store and which coin payments are supported on each item...and upon finding what I want I simply clicked on the item which reveals further details about the gig such as delivery time, Buyer protection time and Accepted blockchain networks for your payment.



And did I mention that you can have preapproved contracts that don't require back-and-forth processes such as waiting for the approval of the contract which is a time saver if you ask me. So basically with preapproved contracts once that Buy button is hit everything populates without the need to wait for approval from the other party.

I like the real time timer that starts the countdown upon the Buyer transferring the coins to the contract(escrow) and the process at this point is smooth ridding for both buyer and seller.. The time given is based on Sellers contract timing terms of which if not fulfilled the buyer can dispute the transaction....very impressive and self explanatory process.


and the seller equally gets the timer running before "Dispute button" is active on the buyers side should time run out for the seller.
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Could I get some clarity, during the fulfillment stage, why is the release button active on the buyer's side when this stage heavily relies on the seller delivering the product or service to the buyer ?? Which is wait for product/service delivery then buyer authorizes release of funds out of escrow Smiley
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After a successful transaction, it comes down to a review of the transaction and its a done deal if all goes well, unless there is a dispute Cool I so feel ready for Zenland  Cool Cool



Edit: I got Paid
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The following users have been approved and contacted via PM:

  • rdluffy
  • Coin_trader
  • examplens
  • Woodie
  • JeromeTash

We still have left 4 Full & Senior member slots and 1 Hero & Legendary member slot open. You may continue submitting your applications.



Also, where we can find your update log and changes which are implemented in the meantime?

Hello Examplens. Here is our changelog https://docs.zen.land/extra/changelog
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I have already participated in the previous test campaign, I would like to continue if it is OK for the team.
Also, where we can find your update log and changes which are implemented in the meantime?

1. Your Telegram username: @examplens
2. One Metamask address (as a buyer): 0xf12265B8dC938103580bA5f4EF086b5fd6F50fD6
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Thanks to all future participants. We were looking forward to our marketplace beta release. Soon after the beta test on BitcoinTalk is over, we will fully release it on https://app.zen.land.

Please feel free to contact me or anyone from the team if you have any questions.


Nice to see you again  Cheesy
I already participated on the Escrow tests, if you liked it I'd like to test this new product too:

1. Telegram username: rdluffy
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Thank you @rdluffy for being our first marketplace tester Smiley Someone from the team will contact you soon.
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Nice to see you again  Cheesy
I already participated on the Escrow tests, if you liked it I'd like to test this new product too:

1. Telegram username: rdluffy
2. 0x7B90791D5601C1212056557E96968a1C5e8D2510
3. Binance Test Network
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