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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 28, 2025, 01:04:04 PM

[1]EDIT: I am not an alt or I have an alt-like=none
[2]EDIT: I am not indulging in an alt farm not I have tried in the past

the evidence presented in the OP suggests otherwise.
so unless you can prove the facts in the OP are false, denying it isn't gonna cut it.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 28, 2025, 01:31:01 PM

Can I please have another week to conclude?

to conclude what? you already had 5 days, and it looks like you couldn't come up with a good story in that time, so another week is not gonna change shit.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 28, 2025, 01:31:01 PM

Please remember that I am not so good with technicalities and if anyone here could help me from the Indian community in solving those allegations then I would thank him or her with a fee.

spoiler alert, neither you nor anyone else on the forum is gonna be able to change the clear evidence that you and the other two accounts are connected.

but i'm curious how you will defend yourself tomorrow or the day after, so go on.

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I’m surprised many newbies/alt just pop up from nowhere and bringing some attention into this topic. Is this because they’re scared being tagged by Pakhitheboss? I want to hear your answer. Anyway Ive been here in bitcointalk since 2016 but still I dont know how DT voting works. lol I only know that if youre in DT1 and DT2 which is the default that if DT 1 & 2 put red tag on profile it will be visible on your profile. Anyway I’m posting here because also like other sees how pakhitheboss being treated that still no one tagging his account until now. Maybe because he has ongoing loan that if got tagged he will run and he will not pay it? I dont know. This already rise by Zwei but I can’t see answer for Pakhitheboss about this. This might sound stupid question but I just want to hear it too and for the record from Pakhitheboss just in case youre being red tagged removed in DT will still pay your loans?

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 28, 2025, 01:31:01 PM

Can I please have another week to conclude? Please remember that I am not so good with technicalities and if anyone here could help me from the Indian community in solving those allegations then I would thank him or her with a fee.

So that was the plan?
You don’t need a week to explain your relations between these accounts. Please read the whole thread before you answer. It is crystal clear that you have been operating both of the accounts. What makes you think community will give you more and more time to explain something which should not take more than 30 minutes to explain (if there is anything to explain).?

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Quote from: memehunter on January 28, 2025, 01:19:25 PM

Note: I could have waited for seven days but then everyone will be asking for 7 days Grin

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If you can prove to me that I have wrongly considered evidence, I will apologize and remove my tag. But I can not vote for a 7-day rule. And honestly, your story regarding the internet blackout is bullshit because you have already wasted two of your posts just to buy you some time. No thanks, I am not buying it.

LOL, Nothing sh.t bro, It was only to get more traction for your reaction, stupid as fcuk you guys are Tongue

[Edit] I have not cheated anyone here in the forum!

Can I please have another week to conclude? Please remember that I am not so good with technicalities and if anyone here could help me from the Indian community in solving those allegations then I would thank him or her with a fee.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 28, 2025, 01:04:04 PM

I am now in my home to be precise.

I would like to thank everyone in the community who allowed me the time. I will be posting my reply by tomorrow or the day after. @Shishir99 please be ready with a definition of alt.

memehunter, being a Full member what made you commit to a negative trust? It looks like you are another alt account of some one Huh

LOL.

Is that a threat? Grin

This post clearly shows that you are just making excuses.
What is the purpose of this post? name-calling, isolating?
I already mentioned my reason for giving you the tag.

Note: I could have waited for seven days but then everyone will be asking for 7 days Grin

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If you can prove to me that I have wrongly considered evidence, I will apologize and remove my tag. But I can not vote for a 7-day rule. And honestly, your story regarding the internet blackout is bullshit because you have already wasted two of your posts just to buy you some time. No thanks, I am not buying it.

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I am now in my home to be precise.

I would like to thank everyone in the community who allowed me the time. I will be posting my reply by tomorrow or the day after. @Shishir99 please be ready with a definition of alt.

memehunter, being a Full member what made you commit to a negative trust? It, does, look like you are another alt account of someone???

[1]EDIT: I am not an alt or I have an alt-like=none
[2]EDIT: I am not indulging in an alt farm not I have tried in the past

The way your team has been working is incredible. Thanks for being so blunt on replies.

I have asked for a week time and I think as someone reputed here I need that time or more. Thanks.

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Quote from: nutildah on January 27, 2025, 11:06:38 PM

He got a little too power happy after being included in DT... There's a quote about someone's character being judged not by their attainment of power but how they choose to wield said power. Can't remember who said it exactly but that's the gist of it.

Yeah, they were teaching a lesson to a guy by leaving neutral feedback and they were proudly saying that even though they had to remove the feedback after being criticized. Since you already mentioned, here is a post made by probably an alt account that you can check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64966542

He was already using the feedback system incorrectly even before he was included by JollyGood and icopress. But they decided to promote him to the DT network. After being a DT member, he left two more incorrect positive feedbacks. He actually back-scratched JollyGood and another to one of the Indian Local members Bitcoin Smith for being a quality poster on the local board.

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He got a little too power happy after being included in DT... There's a quote about someone's character being judged not by their attainment of power but how they choose to wield said power. Can't remember who said it exactly but that's the gist of it.

In any case, ~pakhitheboss for now and will wait until what he has to say later.

Quote from: ? on January 27, 2025, 10:38:41 PM

When it comes to forum rules, the mistake pakhitheboss did was to break DT rules and it depends on DT members whether to tag him.
That said, lets wait for his reply.

There aren't really "DT rules" per se but theymos has blacklisted accounts from DT in the past over the prospects of manipulation. In this case, yes the alt accounts including pakhitheboss in their trust list do increase his chances for DT1 eligibility, which is a pretty big no-no.

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Quote from: memehunter on January 27, 2025, 09:54:14 AM

Quote from: Shishir99 on January 27, 2025, 09:30:07 AM

Quote from: memehunter on January 27, 2025, 08:11:18 AM

So there are two questions:
1) The loan.
2) He painted many members red accusing alt accounts and he must be treated with the same sword.

Now it is even more clear. He must be tagged. Yeah after tagging the loan in question might suffer but that was the inherent risk in lending I guess.

The 2nd point is not enough to tag him in red. You cannot give someone negative feedback just because they are doing the same with others. That is retaliation.

IMHO it is the very definition of a double standard and what retaliation?
Let me ask this to you. What are your expectations from exposing his alt accounts? You want to show everyone that he has alts and that is it? He did nothing wrong by taking a loan, and let's say he did nothing wrong by creating alts (unless he scammed or broke any rules). Now the only case is of double standards.
IMO having double standards is a clear sign of un-trustworthiness, how it is retaliation?

Even if he was about to pay back the loan even after getting tagged, reading the above posts he would have got the idea of defaulting the loan.
Stop putting ideas in his head. Joining multiple signature campaigns with multiple accounts might sound fishy but the end decision depends on the campaign managers on how to take it further.
Backstabbing icopress sounds bad too but then it depends on icopress how to take it further.
When it comes to forum rules, the mistake pakhitheboss did was to break DT rules and it depends on DT members whether to tag him.
That said, lets wait for his reply.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on January 27, 2025, 09:30:07 AM

Quote from: memehunter on January 27, 2025, 08:11:18 AM

So there are two questions:
1) The loan.
2) He painted many members red accusing alt accounts and he must be treated with the same sword.

Now it is even more clear. He must be tagged. Yeah after tagging the loan in question might suffer but that was the inherent risk in lending I guess.

The 2nd point is not enough to tag him in red. You cannot give someone negative feedback just because they are doing the same with others. That is retaliation.

IMHO it is the very definition of a double standard and what retaliation?
Let me ask this to you. What are your expectations from exposing his alt accounts? You want to show everyone that he has alts and that is it? He did nothing wrong by taking a loan, and let's say he did nothing wrong by creating alts (unless he scammed or broke any rules). Now the only case is of double standards.
IMO having double standards is a clear sign of un-trustworthiness, how it is retaliation?

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Quote from: memehunter on January 27, 2025, 08:11:18 AM

So there are two questions:
1) The loan.
2) He painted many members red accusing alt accounts and he must be treated with the same sword.

Now it is even more clear. He must be tagged. Yeah after tagging the loan in question might suffer but that was the inherent risk in lending I guess.

The loan has nothing to do with the outcome of this thread. The members will judge him based on his actions not based on the loan he takes. The 2nd point is not enough to tag him in red. You cannot give someone negative feedback just because they are doing the same with others. That is retaliation. You should have a good reason to tag someone. Using the system correctly is the only way to get into the DT network.

It is up to the DT members to determine whether his attempt to join the campaign with multiple accounts constitutes cheating. Additionally, manipulating DT voting is also regarded as cheating. In such circumstances, theymos has a history of blacklisting individuals to prevent them from entering the DT network.

He requested seven days to explain himself, and today marks day four. Let’s wait for his response, even though I don't anticipate he will offer anything more than a questionable trading scenario that may sound far-fetched.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on January 27, 2025, 07:52:12 AM

Quote from: memehunter on January 26, 2025, 03:36:59 PM

I read it all and guess the problem is with earnings from signature campaigns he abused with multiple accounts. What if he admits his mistakes and pays back the loan? I mean, I am just wondering if he is liable to give back signature earnings from the alt accounts.

Sorry, you are missing something. pakhitheboss did not participate in signature campaigns with multiple accounts and his earned signature income is not unethical. Please do not twist. I created this accusation thread does not mean I will support whatever people come up with. pakhitheboss applied in signature campaigns with multiple accounts, which can be considered as an attempt to enroll multiple accounts, but they were not successful. So, No. He is not liable to give back anything to the campaign managers.

But I am concerned about his behavior and his personality. This guy portrayed three different personalities with his three accounts. He has accused icopress of operating multiple accounts and distrusted him. But he has been trying to impress icopress with his pakhitheboss account. How do you see this? This is more concerning than earning money from the same campaign with multiple accounts.

You have done a great deal of investigation work which I admire.
I understand it is my mistake that I did not research before arriving at the conclusion that he cheated in signature campaigns. So there are two questions:
1) The loan.
2) He painted many members red accusing alt accounts and he must be treated with the same sword.

Now it is even more clear. He must be tagged. Yeah after tagging the loan in question might suffer but that was the inherent risk in lending I guess.

I apologize again if my so-called 'twisting' gave you the impression that it is undermining your investigation work.

I have given my trust feedback because I think considering all the evidence (as of now) this must be done.

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Quote from: memehunter on January 26, 2025, 03:36:59 PM

I read it all and guess the problem is with earnings from signature campaigns he abused with multiple accounts. What if he admits his mistakes and pays back the loan? I mean, I am just wondering if he is liable to give back signature earnings from the alt accounts.

Sorry, you are missing something. pakhitheboss did not participate in signature campaigns with multiple accounts and his earned signature income is not unethical. Please do not twist. I created this accusation thread does not mean I will support whatever people come up with. pakhitheboss applied in signature campaigns with multiple accounts, which can be considered as an attempt to enroll multiple accounts, but they were not successful. So, No. He is not liable to give back anything to the campaign managers.

But I am concerned about his behavior and his personality. This guy portrayed three different personalities with his three accounts. He has accused icopress of operating multiple accounts and distrusted him. But he has been trying to impress icopress with his pakhitheboss account. How do you see this? This is more concerning than earning money from the same campaign with multiple accounts.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 26, 2025, 03:52:17 PM

It depends. I think I have seen some cases where offenders had a second chance,

I mean, you have to give him some way out to do things right if he wants to do so. If you are saying that he will be painted red which means he will not be able to participate in signature campaigns then there is no skin for him to stay here and pay back even the loan, forget about unethical signature campaign earnings.
On the other hand, if he is allowed with some penalty ( like, 90% of his future signature earnings will go to pay back loans and unethical signature earnings) there is a chance to compensate for the loss (if the campaign manager considers it as
loss).

Quote from: JeromeTash on January 26, 2025, 03:52:17 PM

though that DT manipulation is a very serious offence.

What exactly is this? I am not aware of it. Obviously, he has to come clean with honest intentions.
Is it not allowed?

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Quote from: memehunter on January 26, 2025, 03:36:59 PM

I read it all and guess the problem is with earnings from signature campaigns he abused with multiple accounts. What if he admits his mistakes and pays back the loan? I mean, I am just wondering if he is liable to give back signature earnings from the alt accounts.

It depends. I think I have seen some cases where offenders had a second chance, though that DT manipulation is a very serious offence. Not sure how he is going to explain that.

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If he does that and abandons his alt accounts, is he welcomed again?

That is up to the different individual DT members. Some may pardon him, others may not.

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I mean it is not that he will not make a new account here in the future and he probably can adhere to a more sophisticated method to abuse signature campaigns in the future.

Sure but growing an account is not as easy as it was back then.

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I read it all and guess the problem is with earnings from signature campaigns he abused with multiple accounts. What if he admits his mistakes and pays back the loan? I mean, I am just wondering if he is liable to give back signature earnings from the alt accounts.
If he does that and abandons his alt accounts, is he welcomed again?
I mean it is not that he will not make a new account here in the future and he probably can adhere to a more sophisticated method to abuse signature campaigns in the future.
What about giving him a negative trust which will be converted to neutral if he does all the things right?

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Quote from: Shishir99 on January 26, 2025, 03:46:30 AM

Quote from: Zwei on January 25, 2025, 05:55:10 PM

the only one i feel bad for in this is @shasan, as he has an active loan with him. and considering the strong evidence against pakhitheboss, one week or not, whatever story he comes up with, i don't see it changing the fact that those 3 accounts are alts.

He can still pay back to shasan if he wants. Luckygames had a pretty bad reputation. But they had some integrity and they paid their all users and they ran their website for a long time in withdrawal mode so their players could withdraw their funds. Nobody knows what is the future of this pakhitheboss account, but if he has some integrity, then he should pay back the loan.

i hope he doesn't default on the rest of the loan, but i doubt it. looking back at similar cases, once they get painted red and can't join sig campaigns, they just abandon the account and dip.

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Quote from: Zwei on January 25, 2025, 05:55:10 PM

the only one i feel bad for in this is @shasan, as he has an active loan with him. and considering the strong evidence against pakhitheboss, one week or not, whatever story he comes up with, i don't see it changing the fact that those 3 accounts are alts.

He can still pay back to shasan if he wants. Luckygames had a pretty bad reputation. But they had some integrity and they paid their all users and they ran their website for a long time in withdrawal mode so their players could withdraw their funds. Nobody knows what is the future of this pakhitheboss account, but if he has some integrity, then he should pay back the loan.

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I mean situations like the one I mentioned earlier. For example, user JollyGood left a neutral review on someone’s profile, and now there are posts against JollyGood, possibly from different accounts (maybe alts). That’s the kind of unnecessary drama I’m talking about.

If you are interested in discussing these things, please create a different thread and invite the community members. I am sure you will learn a lot from them. Please stop posting in this thread because this thread is not about how tagging wars affect the forum. Otherwise, I will have to report your off-topic posts.

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Why don’t the mods do something about alts? Can they kick out these accounts?

Admins do not police alts.

This might turn the topic into something else, but I feel like it’s connected, so I’ll just say it.

that’s probably why all the drama starts_because admins don’t police alts. It leads to tagging wars, personal attacks, and chaos. Maybe if there were clearer rules or stricter oversight on how alts are used, it’d help keep things fair and avoid all this mess.

How does it lead to tagging wars? Alt accounts are useless in a tagging war in most cases as they are likely not in DT which is 1 way a red tag shows up for everyone, if you were to tag me noone would even see it as you are not in DT and likely noone would care obviously depending on what the tag was for and the evidence.

They don't moderate scams either BTW, that's what DT do basically.

Quote from: Zwei on January 25, 2025, 05:55:10 PM

the only one i feel bad for in this is @shasan, as he has an active loan with him. and considering the strong evidence against pakhitheboss, one week or not, whatever story he comes up with, i don't see it changing the fact that those 3 accounts are alts.

Yea it looks like he will have a hard time convincing everyone. Assuming the facts stay the facts, this is why people need to know how to use the trust system. He is currently DT2 which won't last. He has 10 guys who trust his judgement 2 of which are alts. I think that number changes soon.

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the only one i feel bad for in this is @shasan, as he has an active loan with him. and considering the strong evidence against pakhitheboss, one week or not, whatever story he comes up with, i don't see it changing the fact that those 3 accounts are alts.

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