Topic: Panda Miner using Pirated KMS activator for WIndows 10? - page 2. (Read 2868 times)

yeah  can't tell if pandaminer did this on purpose of if someone use software to lift the key and then passed it out.

But for usa it is not a good copy.

thanks to op for breaking my balls about it  .  but when I finally got it in english  i found it was not activated  I researched codes and kms spoofing

see the review thread.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/review-of-panda-miner-coming-up-1733723


I dont steal micro soft codes.   so I will keep thread locked until I get a new msata and a new windows 10 installed.

So I ordered:

 1 8gb stick of ram
 1 64gb msata ssd
 1 windows 10

all from amazon.

once again my thanks to kisk for checking my evidence on pm
and to nu2mining for pushing on the windows 10 copy as to if it is good.

So once again  it is not good but I am not sure if pandaminer was ripped or it they loaded it that way.

so a legit win 10 is around 70-85 usd.  the ssd and the ram is about 85.

so 170 in upgrades.  thanks to all.

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Yes its an important issue to protect the community. Doesn't matter whether you've been mining for 5 years or 1 day -- this kind of info should be transparent to all!

Of course it should be included .

But as I pointed out it is an enterprise version and it may be spoofed by one of the customers of pandaminer

Send me a pm.  as I sent one to you.

the windows 10 enterprise version I have  is compromised just not sure that pandaminer did it. or that a customer of theirs did it to them.

I don't care either way as I build my own, but if you're a potential buyer of said hardware then you should know whether you're getting a legitimate software package with your hardware. If the software is not genuine then not only are you risking getting flagged but you are also opening yourself up to receiving systems with potential backdoors.

As a programmer I'll tell you it would be extremely easy to ship out a preinstalled system with a backdoor and 99.9% of folks would never know OR EVEN CHECK! Systems/builds like this should be shipped with zero OS imo -- let the miner install their own OS and do their work.

Given that this is an up and coming new and low budget Chinese company, I highly doubt they invested $100 for a legit copy of Windows 10 on each of their rigs.

Pretty sure in Chinese there are no piracy laws unlike in the US. In the US if a company tried to use pirated software they would be in huge trouble legally with Microsoft.

Phil, its very easy to tell. If your current setup has been fully activated as genuine previously then you should be able to reinstall a fresh Win10 and it should activate successfully because of the generated systemID which is saved on the MS activation servers. There are other ways to identify a pirated copy of the OS as well. PM me for more clarification or questions.

As a reviewer I'd think that a properly licensed OS is pretty crucial if you're trying to sell a rig and should be included in any review as to whether the OS is legit or not.

I think it is not a legit activation.

But I am not sure at the moment .

We are going to need some clarification on it.

I am not a coder/software guy.

I have a standard legit windows 10 and I will pull the stock msata out and attempt an install.

The software does have a activation code that does not work at the moment.

Could be due to date change.

The Windows 10 enterprise lbst. Is the most basic version of windows 10. It is stripped of edge browser.

And of Microsoft store.  There are ways to spoof the system if the code is bad.  I do not recommend that.
I also don't know if a new windows 10 install will work.  So for now it could be an issue.

I am awaiting a old school msata as I do not want to erase the included msata.

Once I know I can run the unit with the new msata and a good windows 10 install.

I can be more aggressive fucking with the stock. Msata build.

I did not want to deal with the issue specifically on the review since I will not be able to know for sure about the quality of the windows build until weds or thur at best.


I did some research on windows 10 enterprise lbst builds

The activation code say 12345 can be purchased from Microsoft and every machine in your company will have the same code say 12345.

Your company may purchase a 10 to 500 or more license .

So if I get a machine my code would be 12345 and if the op got a machine he would have a 12345 code and no issue happens until all 500 are used on the code.

Spoofing involves multiple methods.  But. Let's say they are fully honest and did buy a 500 machine code.

Some scumbag got a machine. 25 days ago and uses a code finder program extracts the code and uses it 100 times not once for his one machine.

The other machines have not been activated so I get mine 3 days ago and have an issues switching to,English
So today I get it in English.  And I try to activate my machine. With the provided code and it does not work

Due to an early bird piece of shit that used the code 100 times vs the 1 time they were entitled to!

Well if the code does not work for me the reason above is just as likely as pandaminer tried cheating codes.

I do think there is an issue because my code ends in say 12345.  And I found a tutorial on how to spoof windows 10 enterprise lbst.

In that tutorial they gave a full activation code. And the last set of,numbers are indentical to the code,on my machine.

So did pandaminer use the tutorial or did the tutorial rob pandaminer?

All this does not belong on my review thread at the moment since I do not know why the above occurred.

It does need to be mentioned that the included windows has an issue.  Which I did mention first as stuck in Chinese and then as not allowing activation.  At first I thought it was due to the year change but finding a match of my last numbers and of the online method to spoof is troublesome.

Sure, if you activated Win10 with a specific systemID (combination of mobo/cpu/hd specs/serials) then it is valid to fully activate any time in the future. Whether they did that prior to August 2016 for ALLLL the boards in production has yet to be seen -- hense the question the thread is asking: if the pre-installed os on these boxes is truely genuine or if its a re-arm (KMS) hack. It would be fairly easy to spoof "valid" systemIDs for activation but eventually the same systemID is going to get flagged and deemed pirated. Would love to see a dd image of the drive if possible and I'll tell you whether its legit or not.

Given they are using their own boards;  Its easy for them to have pre-activated one;  and carried over the same hardware profile specs between machines.

I have still been activating windows 7 machines and doing the 10 upgrade myself the same as when it was free, and activations are sticking and holding.

Try rebooting with an F8 menu and going into the boot-up troubleshooting and seeing if there's an option to restore the previous version of windows.

Not likely as they just started building their units at the end of Nov. They would have had to take the free upgrade on each mobo before July 31st as that's when it ended.

I am pretty sure they used an "activated" version of Windows 7/8 and just did the free upgrade to a legit copy of Win 10.

ok so phil cant even figure out if Panda Miner is using a KMS activated copy of WIndows 10?!?!?!?!?!

so ill ask directly to Panda Miner, is it KMS Activated??

does the preinstalled come with a serial number that can be verified with microsoft??