<^^Kilroy> wolong you might not have comtrol of the coin like you wanted. but you still have the public eating out of your hands.
L O L
That's really damaging
Topic: [pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ - page 52. (Read 398969 times)
February 22, 2014, 02:39:15 PM
<^^Kilroy> wolong you might not have comtrol of the coin like you wanted. but you still have the public eating out of your hands.
L O L
That's really damaging
February 22, 2014, 02:38:16 PM
<^^Kilroy> wolong you might not have comtrol of the coin like you wanted. but you still have the public eating out of your hands.
L O L
i had no idea of any of this, and its a part of the reason i will be walking away from this.
February 22, 2014, 02:36:40 PM
<^^Kilroy> wolong you might not have comtrol of the coin like you wanted. but you still have the public eating out of your hands.
L O L
EDIT: I just wanna add again that you're all scumbag pieces of shit, and it feels real good to be right
Go fuck yourself [-Warlock-] aka JacobUX, all you want to do is scam people, and you deserve everything you've got coming to you.
Just try to make another coin while pretending you're innocent after this caves in. Just fucking try.
February 22, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
no way to salvage this,
i recommend an admin close this thread, using pastebins from wolongs irc ( http://pastebin.com/NhmXMRTj) and some of the devs (JacobUX) who were discussion there how to get this to pump again... not trustworthy at all.
For any future coin premined and ipo is a huge warning sign, especially when so few control so many coins. Nothing new implemented, just a name who cheated everyone (wolong- and likely some of the devs were in on it).
People sent btc to him, and he stole it all, then dumped the remaining coins he said he would hold for 6 months. Really terrible experience. Someone should make a fraud suite against him in court if he indeed does live in Singapore, that is if he broke the law there. At least for him claiming to give to charity (and then not). Be nice for him to get jail time...
i recommend an admin close this thread, using pastebins from wolongs irc ( http://pastebin.com/NhmXMRTj) and some of the devs (JacobUX) who were discussion there how to get this to pump again... not trustworthy at all.
For any future coin premined and ipo is a huge warning sign, especially when so few control so many coins. Nothing new implemented, just a name who cheated everyone (wolong- and likely some of the devs were in on it).
People sent btc to him, and he stole it all, then dumped the remaining coins he said he would hold for 6 months. Really terrible experience. Someone should make a fraud suite against him in court if he indeed does live in Singapore, that is if he broke the law there. At least for him claiming to give to charity (and then not). Be nice for him to get jail time...
Oh boy. Again, you guys are the biggest scumbags imaginable. Good luck getting anybody on board ANY coin to make in the future, much less this piece of shit
February 22, 2014, 02:31:40 PM
Rebranding it is pointless, wolong and scam devs still have majority of coins and can just dump them any moment, again.
Forking it is even worse, wolong already sold/deposited somewhere part of his coins so someone else's money will dissapear.
There is no way to fix this coin.
Forking it is even worse, wolong already sold/deposited somewhere part of his coins so someone else's money will dissapear.
There is no way to fix this coin.
February 22, 2014, 02:30:48 PM
Jeez... you guys just go from bad to worse. In what world would Wolong allow you to "claw back" his holdings? And what other world would there be a "market" for you to "dump" them on? And that third world where you are going to "dump" the new shares acquired by the previous "dump"? where would that be? And who will these shares be dumped upon exactly? I think you may be having a freakin' breakdown there sevoque.
JTB800
+1
answered in bold to your comments
Sevoque
-1
more FUD and BS
if you cant take what i am telling you then go to another thread, its really not difficult. You have already said uare not interested in the coin, why hang around here if thats really true?
February 22, 2014, 02:29:18 PM
Sevoque you should pull the pin on this piece of scam garbage. Keeping it on life support will only expend more time and money, with the purpose, as somebody mentioned earlier, for you and other bag holders to push your coins on greater fools.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
yep, nothing i can do about that now though.
And agreed, I am waiting to speak to artis but its not my decision to kill the coin, its jacob and artis's
Yeah now you have dumped your coins, it's time to kill.
i still hold 15m
thanks
February 22, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
People sent btc to him, and he stole it all, then dumped the remaining coins he said he would hold for 6 months. Really terrible experience. Someone should make a fraud suite against him in court if he indeed does live in Singapore, that is if he broke the law there. At least for him claiming to give to charity (and then not). Be nice for him to get jail time...
Why the hell would you give someone that many coins to stablise the currency anyway? which was the reason they gave for having the premine
how is that suppose to work? People are dumping on the coin so wolong would dump MORE to stablise it??? and then use the btc from that to buy back the panda? Are you all friggin retarded or something???Yeah its being dumped on by outside forces so lets sell off more panda into dump to drive the price down further??? bollocks! if you were serious about stablising it from the start you would have used some btc in reserved to put a bottom under the coin...
February 22, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
Yup is time to kill the coin as is, Im trying to move on from my loss it will tai some days. Now the last coins I had are stock in mintpal pending withdrawal it's the end..... LOST IT ALL
February 22, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
no way to salvage this,
i recommend an admin close this thread, using pastebins from wolongs irc ( http://pastebin.com/NhmXMRTj) and some of the devs (JacobUX) who were discussion there how to get this to pump again... not trustworthy at all.
For any future coin premined and ipo is a huge warning sign, especially when so few control so many coins. Nothing new implemented, just a name who cheated everyone (wolong- and likely some of the devs were in on it).
People sent btc to him, and he stole it all, then dumped the remaining coins he said he would hold for 6 months. Really terrible experience. Someone should make a fraud suite against him in court if he indeed does live in Singapore, that is if he broke the law there. At least for him claiming to give to charity (and then not). Be nice for him to get jail time...
i recommend an admin close this thread, using pastebins from wolongs irc ( http://pastebin.com/NhmXMRTj) and some of the devs (JacobUX) who were discussion there how to get this to pump again... not trustworthy at all.
For any future coin premined and ipo is a huge warning sign, especially when so few control so many coins. Nothing new implemented, just a name who cheated everyone (wolong- and likely some of the devs were in on it).
People sent btc to him, and he stole it all, then dumped the remaining coins he said he would hold for 6 months. Really terrible experience. Someone should make a fraud suite against him in court if he indeed does live in Singapore, that is if he broke the law there. At least for him claiming to give to charity (and then not). Be nice for him to get jail time...
February 22, 2014, 02:16:51 PM
Jeez... you guys just go from bad to worse. In what world would Wolong allow you to "claw back" his holdings? And what other world would there be a "market" for you to "dump" them on? And that third world where you are going to "dump" the new shares acquired by the previous "dump"? where would that be? And who will these shares be dumped upon exactly? I think you may be having a freakin' breakdown there sevoque.
JTB800
+1
answered in bold to your comments
Sevoque
-1
more FUD and BS
February 22, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
Sevoque you should pull the pin on this piece of scam garbage. Keeping it on life support will only expend more time and money, with the purpose, as somebody mentioned earlier, for you and other bag holders to push your coins on greater fools.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
yep, nothing i can do about that now though.
And agreed, I am waiting to speak to artis but its not my decision to kill the coin, its jacob and artis's
Yeah now you have dumped your coins, it's time to kill.
February 22, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
IMO, I think everybody lost trust in Pandacoin. Why don't the team re-brand the coin and launch it?
The team have the source code and the graphic design, just made the changes and re-complied it.
I did not mine Pandacoin because I find everything is dis-organised.
Very likely, the coin was designed in a hurry.
This time round, take some time and planned it accordingly.
The team have the source code and the graphic design, just made the changes and re-complied it.
I did not mine Pandacoin because I find everything is dis-organised.
Very likely, the coin was designed in a hurry.
This time round, take some time and planned it accordingly.
Yeah its been a bumpy ride watching from the sidelines lol.
February 22, 2014, 02:04:21 PM
IMO, I think everybody lost trust in Pandacoin. Why don't the team re-brand the coin and launch it?
The team have the source code and the graphic design, just made the changes and re-complied it.
I did not mine Pandacoin because I find everything is dis-organised.
Very likely, the coin was designed in a hurry.
This time round, take some time and planned it accordingly.
The team have the source code and the graphic design, just made the changes and re-complied it.
I did not mine Pandacoin because I find everything is dis-organised.
Very likely, the coin was designed in a hurry.
This time round, take some time and planned it accordingly.
February 22, 2014, 02:03:10 PM
Sevoque you should pull the pin on this piece of scam garbage. Keeping it on life support will only expend more time and money, with the purpose, as somebody mentioned earlier, for you and other bag holders to push your coins on greater fools.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
yep, nothing i can do about that now though.
And agreed, I am waiting to speak to artis but its not my decision to kill the coin, its jacob and artis's
February 22, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Sevoque you should pull the pin on this piece of scam garbage. Keeping it on life support will only expend more time and money, with the purpose, as somebody mentioned earlier, for you and other bag holders to push your coins on greater fools.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
I also hope you realise that your "trolls" are fully aware of your plans and won't forget what has already happened so quickly.
February 22, 2014, 01:48:33 PM
I personally don't want wolong involved in any way going forward. I want to find a way to claw back the coins, dump them at market, use the BTC to purchase back holdings from IPO investors through rebuying those funds and also dump their panda at market to effectively wipe the playing field and start from zero. The issue, however, is that Artis and Jacob are the ones who are caught in the crossfire - Artis has had no way of even touching his funds given that he is AFK and jacob hasn't touched his either, also consider investors like Molly who effectively bought in at 50BTC at a 25 satoshi IPO value, it will all be wiped, and with all the will in the world, I don't see wolong relinquishing his holdings.
Myself and add1ct3dd have taken a look at wolongs wallet activity and it is clear that he has moved 200mil aside (most likely mollys holdings) and its clear that he has moved a further amount to exchange and is being held there, (thats our guess anyway), likely Mintpal. So it makes our job very difficult, because even if we teamed up with the bigger pools and forced a 51% , it would leave a lot of good people very fucked and we really don't want to cause any more issues or drama with the community given everything that has happened.
I'm personally open to any suggestions that in theory could work, but please know one thing,I PERSONALLY have little authority over what can actually happen given that it is Jacob and Artis who are the core devs and would need to agreee between themselves.
We are obviously distraught that all the hard work, time and effort we have put in was seemingly sabotaged in the window of a few hours and would love to find a way to move past it and regain the community trust.
TLDR: I think the coin would be better without wolong, he adds zero value to the project.
Just my 2 cents
Sev
Jeez... you guys just go from bad to worse. In what world would Wolong allow you to "claw back" his holdings? And what other world would there be a "market" for you to "dump" them on? And that third world where you are going to "dump" the new shares acquired by the previous "dump"? where would that be? And who will these shares be dumped upon exactly? I think you may be having a freakin' breakdown there sevoque.
Your right, there would be no market to dump to in essence it would the coin back in the hands of people who were ready to see us do the right thing with the coin at a cheaper price and switch the balance between the wallet values of the devs and of the users/adopters of the coin.
And also correct, wolong wouldn't do that, i was describing my ideal scenario to fix this
That plan does nothing for anybody except extract you out of this mess, so that you can move on. It is time that you manned up and stopped crying in your beer. Besides, that plan is so stupid, even the idiots here wouldn't be fooled by it.
I didn't say that my plan was good and i also stated that it was unlikely to happen and that was open to ideas. I have nothing to be blamed for as I am not responsible for wolongs actions.. even after seeing the last 100 pages of threads you still trying to attack me? No worries.. keep at it
First, you have to accept what happened and move on. Wolong will probably want to pump this coin up for his own gains, but even if he just wants to keep dumping... well, let him. sooner or later, his share of coins will be gone.
Agreed, sooner the better if we are going to be doing anything with the coin
Secondly, you have to get up every day and work hard to make this coin a success despite the difficulty. It sucks, it's not the vision you had in mind, and many people will never forgive you, but that is where you are.
Thats exactly what we were doing until wolong decided to dump the market. and yes, it is what it is at this point but it is still not a great situation for anyone
Thirdly, you have to keep everyone informed on a daily basis what is happening. How many founders coins are still hanging over everyone's heads, for example. You may not know precisely, but give your best estimate. Also, what are the developers up to? If they have abandoned ship --say so. There will probably be volunteers to step up, especially if they get some of your (and founders coins).
If you had read the post, you can see jacob was saying he is not going anywhere, the other guys are still around but the other guy, Artis, is not aware that anything has even happened given that he has been AFK since launch due to personal matters.. so, there is nothing to say at this point.
This coin was always a stupid idea and I feel bad for the newbie suckers you talked into it. But, you are where you are -- now, at long last, do the right thing. Hand this coin over, faults and all to someone and then move along or stop sniveling and get to work.
answered in bold to your comments
February 22, 2014, 01:43:04 PM
...Just my 2 cents
Sev
Can you explain what is the purpose of the v2 coin now, except to let you and others to hopefully cash out to greater fools?Sev
If somehow the combination of pandas plus Adaptive-N Scrypt provides value, why wouldn't someone create a Pandacoin v4 with those features, but no Wolong? What advantage would the v2 coin have that the v4 coin wouldn't have?
yeah and i dont think thats a bad idea
February 22, 2014, 01:36:11 PM
...Just my 2 cents
Sev
Can you explain what is the purpose of the v2 coin now, except to let you and others to hopefully cash out to greater fools?Sev
If somehow the combination of pandas plus Adaptive-N Scrypt provides value, why wouldn't someone create a Pandacoin v4 with those features, but no Wolong? What advantage would the v2 coin have that the v4 coin wouldn't have?
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