PandaMiner B3 Pro New Batch Releases with Only $800-$1750!!!! - page 22.

citronick

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Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 10:12:17 AM

its still a good price for what you are getting. 1500 to build a 8 card 470? Where? Not with quality parts, not even close. EVGA 1300 / 8 x Sapphire 470 / MB (Good luck getting it) / cpu / memory / ssd / Metal frame (aluminum is what I make)

Your at close if not over 1900

Price is decent that's why i have a bunch coming =) PLUS a Panda shirt lols

since the pandas are sold out...

I wonder if you are the one who bought all 500 units.... plus a ton of black and white T-shirts! Shocked

dagarair

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ok your right i forgot! Grin

generalt

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Quote from: philipma1957 on March 17, 2017, 07:25:38 AM

Specifications
Hash Rate   237MH/s (ETH), 1880Sol/s (Zcash), 5890H/S (XMR). Variation of ±5% is expected
Power Consumption   1250W +10% (ETH), 1200W +10% (Zcash), 1120W+10% (XMR) (on the wall, with PandaMiner’s customized power, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
Rated Voltage   12.4-12.6V
Chips per unit   8 x RX470
Dimensions   490mm(L) x 280mm(W) x 170mm(H)
Cooling   6x fans;
Operating Temperature   0°C to 40°C
Network Connection   Ethernet

490mm = 19.29 inch
280mm = 11.02 inch
170mm = 6.69 inch

Systematic parameter
CPU   Inter® Celeron® CPU 3215U @1.70 GHZ same low end cpu it works okay with linux
Installed memory (RAM)   4GB
System type   64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Operation system   Windows 10

I like the dimensions of the new case! Very close to 19" so it should fit into a standard rack. Unfortunately I missed the boat on this as well.

charles2k

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Yes, agree, time is money. But in my country one hour work is not so much in $. Also there is problem with resale value.

Quote from: philipma1957 on March 17, 2017, 10:57:36 AM

Okay while you are correct that you can get a discount on parts. You completely ignore that a farm of 100 6 card mobos would take a weeks time to build.

while 75 of these could be installed in a day.

If I ordered 75 of these. I would simply be making msata smOS clones. While I wait for them to arrive.
I would take about 5 minutes per unit to put the cloned os in.
5 more to hook it up. total time 75 x 10 minutes = 750 minutes or 12 ½ hours work max to have 600 gpus mining eth coin on smOS.

To make 100 6 rig units. I need more time making my clones since it is 100 vs 75.
I then need to assemble 100 rigs into 100 cases ------------------ edit open air or server case

say 1 hour per rig vs 10 minutes so 100 hours setup time vs 12.5 hours setup time.

87.50 hours = $$$
25 more msatas = $$$

space huge size difference at least 2x the size.

I am annoyed I was not afforded a chance to buy one but in my case I am small I have time I will build a rig instead.

Quote from: charles2k on March 17, 2017, 10:43:04 AM

Your price comparision is wrong.
Big customers are buying standard PC components for much better price. I know something about that, I worked at computer wholesale.

Quote from: Eliovp on March 17, 2017, 10:22:20 AM

Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 10:12:17 AM

its still a good price for what you are getting. 1500 to build a 8 card 470? Where? Not with quality parts, not even close. EVGA 1300 / 8 x Sapphire 470 / MB (Good luck getting it) / cpu / memory / ssd / Metal frame (aluminum is what I make)

Your at close if not over 1900

Price is decent that's why i have a bunch coming =) PLUS a Panda shirt lols

Absolutely right.

You should look at this from a large farm perspective.

Try to stack "normal gpu" rigs the way you could/would stack or place these..

I bet i can stack 50 of these while only being able to place 15 normal ones..

anyhow,

8 x 470 4G at an avarage of 170 dollar per gpu = 1360$
Find a decent PSU that can feed 8 GPU's, decent quality = around 300-350$?
CPU, Mem, Risers and extra risers because we all know how awesome these are. How much? 200$?
Mobo that supports 8 GPU's, definitely not under 100$, more likely to be near 200$

So very quickly calculated, that's around 2100$

Panda B3 = less than that..

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Okay while you are correct that you can get a discount on parts. You completely ignore that a farm of 100 6 card mobos would take a weeks time to build.

while 75 of these could be installed in a day.

If I ordered 75 of these. I would simply be making msata smOS clones. While I wait for them to arrive.
I would take about 5 minutes per unit to put the cloned os in.
5 more to hook it up. total time 75 x 10 minutes = 750 minutes or 12 ½ hours work max to have 600 gpus mining eth coin on smOS.

To make 100 6 rig units. I need more time making my clones since it is 100 vs 75.
I then need to assemble 100 rigs into 100 cases ------------------ edit open air or server case

say 1 hour per rig vs 10 minutes so 100 hours setup time vs 12.5 hours setup time.

87.50 hours = $$$
25 more msatas = $$$

space huge size difference at least 2x the size.

I am annoyed I was not afforded a chance to buy one but in my case I am small I have time I will build a rig instead.

Quote from: charles2k on March 17, 2017, 10:43:04 AM

Your price comparision is wrong.
Big customers are buying standard PC components for much better price. I know something about that, I worked at computer wholesale.

Quote from: Eliovp on March 17, 2017, 10:22:20 AM

Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 10:12:17 AM

its still a good price for what you are getting. 1500 to build a 8 card 470? Where? Not with quality parts, not even close. EVGA 1300 / 8 x Sapphire 470 / MB (Good luck getting it) / cpu / memory / ssd / Metal frame (aluminum is what I make)

Your at close if not over 1900

Price is decent that's why i have a bunch coming =) PLUS a Panda shirt lols

Absolutely right.

You should look at this from a large farm perspective.

Try to stack "normal gpu" rigs the way you could/would stack or place these..

I bet i can stack 50 of these while only being able to place 15 normal ones..

anyhow,

8 x 470 4G at an avarage of 170 dollar per gpu = 1360$
Find a decent PSU that can feed 8 GPU's, decent quality = around 300-350$?
CPU, Mem, Risers and extra risers because we all know how awesome these are. How much? 200$?
Mobo that supports 8 GPU's, definitely not under 100$, more likely to be near 200$

So very quickly calculated, that's around 2100$

Panda B3 = less than that..

charles2k

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Activity: 326

Merit: 250

Your price comparision is wrong.
Big customers are buying standard PC components for much better price. I know something about that, I worked at computer wholesale.

Quote from: Eliovp on March 17, 2017, 10:22:20 AM

Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 10:12:17 AM

its still a good price for what you are getting. 1500 to build a 8 card 470? Where? Not with quality parts, not even close. EVGA 1300 / 8 x Sapphire 470 / MB (Good luck getting it) / cpu / memory / ssd / Metal frame (aluminum is what I make)

Your at close if not over 1900

Price is decent that's why i have a bunch coming =) PLUS a Panda shirt lols

Absolutely right.

You should look at this from a large farm perspective.

Try to stack "normal gpu" rigs the way you could/would stack or place these..

I bet i can stack 50 of these while only being able to place 15 normal ones..

anyhow,

8 x 470 4G at an avarage of 170 dollar per gpu = 1360$
Find a decent PSU that can feed 8 GPU's, decent quality = around 300-350$?
CPU, Mem, Risers and extra risers because we all know how awesome these are. How much? 200$?
Mobo that supports 8 GPU's, definitely not under 100$, more likely to be near 200$

So very quickly calculated, that's around 2100$

Panda B3 = less than that..

Eliovp

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Huh?

Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 10:12:17 AM

its still a good price for what you are getting. 1500 to build a 8 card 470? Where? Not with quality parts, not even close. EVGA 1300 / 8 x Sapphire 470 / MB (Good luck getting it) / cpu / memory / ssd / Metal frame (aluminum is what I make)

Your at close if not over 1900

Price is decent that's why i have a bunch coming =) PLUS a Panda shirt lols

Absolutely right.

You should look at this from a large farm perspective.

Try to stack "normal gpu" rigs the way you could/would stack or place these..

I bet i can stack 50 of these while only being able to place 15 normal ones..

anyhow,

8 x 470 4G at an avarage of 170 dollar per gpu = 1360$
Find a decent PSU that can feed 8 GPU's, decent quality = around 300-350$?
CPU, Mem, Risers and extra risers because we all know how awesome these are. How much? 200$?
Mobo that supports 8 GPU's, definitely not under 100$, more likely to be near 200$

So very quickly calculated, that's around 2100$

Panda B3 = less than that..

dagarair

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Activity: 847

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its still a good price for what you are getting. 1500 to build a 8 card 470? Where? Not with quality parts, not even close. EVGA 1300 / 8 x Sapphire 470 / MB (Good luck getting it) / cpu / memory / ssd / Metal frame (aluminum is what I make)

Your at close if not over 1900

Price is decent that's why i have a bunch coming =) PLUS a Panda shirt lols

charles2k

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Price nothing special, but let say 2000USD OK if available...
But there is another problem with BTC exchange rate. Their rate is 2000/1,855 = 1078USD/1BTC only. Bitstamp now aprox. 1165USD/1BTC, so their exchange rate is 9% less (!). It means, that price is acually higher - not 2000, but 2000x 1,09 = 2180USD and it is very expensive for RX470/4G cards.

deadsix

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Fail to plan, and you plan to fail.

Kinda disappointing with the price. I was hoping the move from RX480 8GB modules to RX470D 4GB modules would reduce costs significantly.
Maybe I was being naive but I was hoping for a $1500 tag. Especially since you can build an 8 card system for ~$1700 albeit in a much larger frame/case, but that has its own advantage of resellability/upgradability.

dagarair

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Quote from: Eliovp on March 17, 2017, 09:19:18 AM

Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 09:01:20 AM

I couldn't sleep thinking of ETH again so I was up at 2am. I got lucky and got a few.

Remember, one does not simply pee with a boner... Cool

You speak the truth sir my eth erection is giant LOLs

Eliovp

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Huh?

Quote from: dagarair on March 17, 2017, 09:01:20 AM

I couldn't sleep thinking of ETH again so I was up at 2am. I got lucky and got a few.

Remember, one does not simply pee with a boner... Cool

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

I for one am glad they sold out.

They made good gear and deserve to make profit.

@ panda miner. Since you sold it all how about a new run?

Maybe the next time limit 1/2 the batch to small sales.

@ everyone the fact they sold out so quickly shows the interest in gpu mining is strong.

This is good for all of us miners.

To be frank I would have liked one maybe someone from the company could have emailed me.

dagarair

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I couldn't sleep thinking of ETH again so I was up at 2am. I got lucky and got a few.

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Quote from: bentcrypto on March 17, 2017, 08:44:26 AM

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Looks like the gear sold out. Oh well so much for that purchase.

Looks like someone just came in and bought the whole 500.

@Pandaminer Why didn't you restrict each customer to a certain amount? Not fair!

I agree! It was sold out before I woke up. Plus they didn't email or post a time it was going to be in stock.

bentcrypto

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Quote

Looks like the gear sold out. Oh well so much for that purchase.

Looks like someone just came in and bought the whole 500.

@Pandaminer Why didn't you restrict each customer to a certain amount? Not fair!

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: sp_ on March 17, 2017, 07:41:19 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on March 17, 2017, 07:25:38 AM

Dual mine pulls a lot more power many times it does not earn enough to justify the extra watts.

I pay $0.05 per KWh. Currently 600MHASH of free dualmined decred will give you $0.4-0.5 more per card per day ($3-4 more profit a day per panda (8 gpu's))

if you have free power it is free decred

the miner burns about 125 more watts when it dual mines. my sentence is very clear that many times it does not pay. at this time it does pay. I am mining dual as I type. In the summer it will be too hot to dual mine.
The miners gpus with full fan go to 72c with dual mining
The miners gpus with full fan go to 64c with eth only

Looks like the gear sold out. Oh well so much for that purchase.

sp_

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Quote from: philipma1957 on March 17, 2017, 07:25:38 AM

Dual mine pulls a lot more power many times it does not earn enough to justify the extra watts.

I pay $0.05 per KWh. Currently 600MHASH of free dualmined decred will give you $0.4-0.5 more per card per day ($3-4 more profit a day per panda (8 gpu's))

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

The old model can dual mine pretty sure this can do it to.
Dual mine pulls a lot more power many times it does not earn enough to justify the extra watts.

this new 8 gpu miner is way different shape.

Specifications
Hash Rate   237MH/s (ETH), 1880Sol/s (Zcash), 5890H/S (XMR). Variation of ±5% is expected
Power Consumption   1250W +10% (ETH), 1200W +10% (Zcash), 1120W+10% (XMR) (on the wall, with PandaMiner’s customized power, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
Rated Voltage   12.4-12.6V
Chips per unit   8 x RX470
Dimensions   490mm(L) x 280mm(W) x 170mm(H)
Cooling   6x fans;
Operating Temperature   0°C to 40°C
Network Connection   Ethernet

490mm = 19.29 inch
280mm = 11.02 inch
170mm = 6.69 inch

Systematic parameter
CPU   Inter® Celeron® CPU 3215U @1.70 GHZ same low end cpu it works okay with linux
Installed memory (RAM)   4GB
System type   64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Operation system   Windows 10

Eliovp

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Huh?

Quote from: sp_ on March 17, 2017, 05:57:38 AM

The panda is pretty expensive for 8 laptop gpu's. Dual mining will probobly break it.. Bether to buy cards and build yourself..

Ok then sp_, go get yourself a custom mainboard that supports 8 GPU's that is this compact and power efficient...
Curious how "cheap" you're going to get it done

Seriously, going to bring up the dual mining subject?
If you want to shorten the lifespan of your gpu's (even non MXM), yeah dual mine.. risk of systems dropping, risk of frying gpu's, name it.. go ahead, it's your hardware..

And btw, i have done a dual mine test on those MXM gpu's, works just fine.. they will just die a lot sooner..

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