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It seems like you're describing the provably fair system used by Pasino.com for their game, which involves generating a chain of 10 million sha256 hashes starting from a server secret that is repeatedly fed the output of sha256 hash back into itself.
This system is designed to ensure the game's fairness and prevent the casino's manipulation of the results.
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legendary
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This is the problem why this guy failed because they didn't explain more clearly the game what they are offering and not everyone knows on how to play that game so I expect this thread will get less attention from people who want to try something new to their eyes since in the first place the thread created by OP is not appealing so if this didn't catch any attention so this will not go any far.

Well this is something that OP can change, the idea is not to stop, that sometimes you can have errors, the important thing is to know how to redeem them, the site would not be good if they let it lose, they have an infrastructure that they can exploit and that I am I'm sure many players will be happy to do it while things are fixed, and the first thing they should urgently fix is the ANN thread, if we get to see each other, if they do everything required, many doubts can be cleared up, also if they add as a strategy 1 weekly new game would be great, just like stake.com and bitcasino.io do, this really gets players hooked.
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@OP needs to change the ANN by providing details about the gambling site so that it will attract people to visit the thread. Maybe @OP needs to provide pictures like other gambling sites so we don't misunderstand what @OP wants.

I don't know much about code for verification but I think it's fair and I'm sure @OP wouldn't try to do anything wrong with the user.

This is the problem why this guy failed because they didn't explain more clearly the game what they are offering and not everyone knows on how to play that game so I expect this thread will get less attention from people who want to try something new to their eyes since in the first place the thread created by OP is not appealing so if this didn't catch any attention so this will not go any far.
If they still want to get players from this forum, they should immediately change their ANN and continue to introduce their site. I can see from their website that they have the potential to grow big and if they can promote in this forum, I think it's only a matter of time for them to become big. I think the games on the website are almost the same as other gambling sites because I have seen slot games and others that are also on other gambling sites.
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@OP needs to change the ANN by providing details about the gambling site so that it will attract people to visit the thread. Maybe @OP needs to provide pictures like other gambling sites so we don't misunderstand what @OP wants.

I don't know much about code for verification but I think it's fair and I'm sure @OP wouldn't try to do anything wrong with the user.

This is the problem why this guy failed because they didn't explain more clearly the game what they are offering and not everyone knows on how to play that game so I expect this thread will get less attention from people who want to try something new to their eyes since in the first place the thread created by OP is not appealing so if this didn't catch any attention so this will not go any far.
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@OP needs to change the ANN by providing details about the gambling site so that it will attract people to visit the thread. Maybe @OP needs to provide pictures like other gambling sites so we don't misunderstand what @OP wants.

I don't know much about code for verification but I think it's fair and I'm sure @OP wouldn't try to do anything wrong with the user.
legendary
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So all this have to be done before starting, their is something i want to know, the game hash does all this gambling section or site have game hash, and another thing i want to know is that, if it is mandatory to give out rules before publishing of games, because since i have being entering gambling site i never know all this things or it is meant for particular function not generally
you don't mind if you believe them even with or without releasing the hash.

Thank you for your recommendations and suggestions. We'll keep them in mind and certainly implement the suggested improvements in our subsequent game releases.
Again, you didn't read all comments above. If you understand what we mind, you will update the ann thread with attractive information. You still post the code where the member will disregard what you wrote.

So what is the minimum deposit using faucet pay?
I have some Floki Inu on erc20 if possible deposit using that chain?
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Apart from the technical issues that RHavar has pointed out, I think that:

a) It is not the best idea to use this as a player-facing marketing strategy as no one will understand the benefits and
b) It is a lot better for you to devote resources to an ANN thread given that you have so much more to offer on your site.

You should probably consider running more promos to get the ball rolling as well with players.

my first impression regarding their ANN, most users will just ignore this thread. he should introduce the event in a more understandable way. if he is promoting the pasino.com site, better not introduce first this seeding event thing. people will be confused and so they will just skip this thread.
he should look in other threads and see how a casino is being introduced to the community. otherwise, i don't think many users will join this seeding event.
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Unfortunately your seeding event is missing one critical component: You didn't explain how you "interpret" a game hash. You should publish a function and game rules before the seed is picked. That way we know you can't tailor your interpret (i.e. hashToGameResult) function based on the future results
So all this have to be done before starting, their is something i want to know, the game hash does all this gambling section or site have game hash, and another thing i want to know is that, if it is mandatory to give out rules before publishing of games, because since i have being entering gambling site i never know all this things or it is meant for particular function not generally
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Unfortunately your seeding event is missing one critical component: You didn't explain how you "interpret" a game hash. You should publish a function and game rules before the seed is picked. That way we know you can't tailor your interpret (i.e. hashToGameResult) function based on the future results


My apologies for not including the algorithm in the ANN.

The code is open source and can be found on our verifier page (by checking the source code using CTRL + U). All calculations are performed on the client-side.

Code:
function calculateWheelResult() {

    var wheel_outcomes = ["1X", "6X", "1X", "12X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "6X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "52XA", "1X", "3X", "1X", "6X", "3X", "1X", "12X", "1X", "6X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "25X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "6X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "12X", "1X", "6X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "52XB", "3X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "12X", "1X", "6X", "1X", "3X", "1X", "25X", "1X", "3X"];

    var client_seed = "00000000000000000000193048476f981a835cd00964b50043fb660f771dc2c3";
    var last_seed = $("#server_seed").val();
    var games = 10;

    var actual_hash;
    var p1, p2, p3, p4, roll, crash_point;

    $("#tabled > tbody").html("");

    for (x = 0; x <= games; x++) {

        var md = forge.md.sha512.create();
        md.update(client_seed + "-" + last_seed);
        actual_hash = md.digest().toHex();

        p1 = parseInt((actual_hash.substr(0, 2) + "").replace(/[^a-f0-9]/gi, ""), 16);
        p2 = parseInt((actual_hash.substr(2, 2) + "").replace(/[^a-f0-9]/gi, ""), 16);
        p3 = parseInt((actual_hash.substr(4, 2) + "").replace(/[^a-f0-9]/gi, ""), 16);
        p4 = parseInt((actual_hash.substr(6, 2) + "").replace(/[^a-f0-9]/gi, ""), 16);

        roll = toFixed((p1 / Math.pow(256, 1) + p2 / Math.pow(256, 2) + p3 / Math.pow(256, 3) + p4 / Math.pow(256, 4)), 12);
        outcome = toFixed((roll * 53), 0);
        outcome = wheel_outcomes[outcome];

        $("#tabled > tbody").append("" + "" + last_seed + "" + "" + outcome + "" + "");

        var md = forge.md.sha256.create();
        md.update(last_seed);
        last_seed = md.digest().toHex();

    }

}

The above code assumes that Forge (a library for cryptography is loaded on the page). Please refer to our website for more information: https://pasinocom.github.io/pasino-verify/fortune-quest.html

The code for the verifier is contained in the app.js file: https://pasinocom.github.io/pasino-verify/assets/js/app.js

Thank you for your recommendations and suggestions. We'll keep them in mind and certainly implement the suggested improvements in our subsequent game releases.
hero member
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Apart from the technical issues that RHavar has pointed out, I think that:

a) It is not the best idea to use this as a player-facing marketing strategy as no one will understand the benefits and
b) It is a lot better for you to devote resources to an ANN thread given that you have so much more to offer on your site.

You should probably consider running more promos to get the ball rolling as well with players.
legendary
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Unfortunately your seeding event is missing one critical component: You didn't explain how you "interpret" a game hash. You should publish a function and game rules before the seed is picked. That way we know you can't tailor your interpret (i.e. hashToGameResult) function based on the future results

Maybe he hides a malicious line of code therefore he cannot provide it publicly. The idea of onchain gambling such as he explained can attract some new gamers with the words and terms they aren't familiar with. But they should be cautious that such idea had already been used by others whilst having a script that just rigs the game and just simply gets your money.

OP, you are not advertising enough in this community. You can boost your audience by posting a proper announcement thread for that purpose, if you really want to attract some attention. It's your only chance of getting noticed. Also, the increased exposure will raise your audience's interest. The more you reveal, the more chance you have of convincing your audience to visit your site, or even become a customer. Look around and check out some threads from other casinos if you're not sure how it's done. That'll give you an idea of what you need to do. Another option is to hire someone to design and post a proper ANN for you.

Also consider interacting more with the community and posting useful information, answering questions, etc. that some people above already suggested. The more you do, the better. There's a good deal of competition in that market, so you'll have to do a few things right to differentiate yourself and get more attention.


I don't think the game isn't even serious enough. There are tons of the same game like this that are way more entertaining and trusted. Better play on reputable than risk having your funds stolen.
legendary
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OP, you are not advertising enough in this community. You can boost your audience by posting a proper announcement thread for that purpose, if you really want to attract some attention. It's your only chance of getting noticed. Also, the increased exposure will raise your audience's interest. The more you reveal, the more chance you have of convincing your audience to visit your site, or even become a customer. Look around and check out some threads from other casinos if you're not sure how it's done. That'll give you an idea of what you need to do. Another option is to hire someone to design and post a proper ANN for you.

Also consider interacting more with the community and posting useful information, answering questions, etc. that some people above already suggested. The more you do, the better. There's a good deal of competition in that market, so you'll have to do a few things right to differentiate yourself and get more attention.
legendary
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^ It looks like an announcement thread for the site regarding the event for the fortune wheel.
This should be posted on their ANN thread if they have it already and you all guys are right, there should no more existing ANN thread on one casino, it should be one ANN thread. Is someone reporting this thread? or let them be this thread go to the dip if no one will reply. This reply of my mine will be the last and there are no second pages at all.
Maybe he was new and don't know what the rules it's. The old thread has a few posts and comment, seems like he wants to make this thread to be live but still don't know what the user wants.

Usually, the tech post does not do much to make people come to the thread because that type of post is to give people a headache to read. well, if @MrBit112 is serious to market the casino here, the only way is to promote, bonus and anything kind like other casinos did.

Actually, Pasino.com is very easy to use, I was registered and tried to free spin after registering and got a 5100 GEM token and multiple it by playing crash, but that token is useless, that purpose is for testing only.

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GEM is a fictitious cryptocurrency token that is used for testing Pasino games. GEM does not have any value and its sole purpose to enable users to test Pasino without spending any real cryptocurrencies. Deposits and withdrawals are not available for GEM!
hero member
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He doesn't need to start a new discussion here and just posted this in Pasino's thread, or in the gambling discussion but not here in the Gambling section where the rule says one thread per casino, he should move this thread it's confusing like all the others we all thought it's a new casino, but it ends OP is discussing a casino's feature that already has an exiting thread.
That would be the first thing that op should have but I don't think that this is an ann thread for that gambling site. If you read the op again, it's about showing other people about the site's fairness. Just what Kakmakr pointed out that I also thought that op didn't own those gambling sites. About one thread for casino, this rule is for ann thread but still having two threads about the site's fairness is still not good thing to do where op could just post it in one thread.
^ It looks like an announcement thread for the site regarding the event for the fortune wheel.
This should be posted on their ANN thread if they have it already and you all guys are right, there should no more existing ANN thread on one casino, it should be one ANN thread. Is someone reporting this thread? or let them be this thread go to the dip if no one will reply. This reply of my mine will be the last and there are no second pages at all.
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He doesn't need to start a new discussion here and just posted this in Pasino's thread, or in the gambling discussion but not here in the Gambling section where the rule says one thread per casino, he should move this thread it's confusing like all the others we all thought it's a new casino, but it ends OP is discussing a casino's feature that already has an exiting thread.
That would be the first thing that op should have but I don't think that this is an ann thread for that gambling site. If you read the op again, it's about showing other people about the site's fairness. Just what Kakmakr pointed out that I also thought that op didn't own those gambling sites. About one thread for casino, this rule is for ann thread but still having two threads about the site's fairness is still not good thing to do where op could just post it in one thread.
legendary
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I didn’t catch what OP was tiring to state here too. I am puzzled with the words, and what do they mean exactly, and what does it implies that must be done exactly. I hope OP will take the time and grace us the attention to explain this one more time, in a language that will be understood by all.

He is just posting the ServerSeed on a public forum that are not owned by OP to show that the Fortune Wheel on Pasino.com is transparent and the system is provably fair.  Wink

I will quote his original post to make sure that the information contained in the post are not altered in any way, so that it will stay transparent.  Wink

Welcome to the Pasino Provably Fair Seeding Event for Fortune Wheel!

This will reuse the idea posted by Ryan and used for Bustabit v1.
   
A chain of 10 million (1e7) sha256 hashes was generated, starting with a Server Secret that has been repeatedly fed the output of sha256 hash back into itself 10 million times.

The final hash in the chain is: 172cb498b3df5f017c3763b6685f8b8e972054ab5101075413b1fb9d1ca58b15, by publicizing it here we are preventing any ability to pick an alternate sha256 chain.
Pasino.com will play through that chain of hashes, in reverse order, and use the hashes to determine the crash point.
To avoid criticism that the Server Secret used in step 1 was carefully chosen to generate lots of "bad" crash points, each hash in the chain will be salted with a client seed, which we have no control of.

The client seed will be the block hash of a Bitcoin block that hasn't yet been mined: block 736013


Using our chosen starting serverSeed, the hash terminating the chain is 172cb498b3df5f017c3763b6685f8b8e972054ab5101075413b1fb9d1ca58b15. That is to say, the first game's hash played under the new provably fair scheme, when hashed will be 172cb498b3df5f017c3763b6685f8b8e972054ab5101075413b1fb9d1ca58b15.

Thank you for taking the time in replying to my inquest. I now understand the post, however, what must be the intention for posting this by OP? Considering that he has other posts that are the same with this, as mentioned by the others. I see that OP is active, why not answer us, OP?
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Block 736013 is mined

Our client seed will be: 00000000000000000000193048476f981a835cd00964b50043fb660f771dc2c3
sr. member
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If this is an ANN for their site, they better fix it right away and replace it with an ANN better than this. They can see ANN from other casinos so that it can give them an idea of how to make a good ANN and can attract the attention of the members here. Even though their site has been released for a long time, if they don't do promotion, their site will not grow and can get a lot of users. They need to think about making an attractive promotion.

As said before, it only shows the pasino system and is transparent. I don't think this is ANN, because it's bad to say ann. One more, last active May 11th. Based on the OP's post history, I don't see any response from the OP to the suggestions above. And this is not interesting to try, if there is a problem there is no place for public discussion with the team other than the support website.
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He is just posting the ServerSeed on a public forum that are not owned by OP to show that the Fortune Wheel on Pasino.com is transparent and the system is provably fair.  Wink



But is there a need to post this he already has two similar threads like this

New Pasino.com Provably Fair Seeding Event for Crash!
November 29, 2021, 05:55:20 AM



Pasino.com Provably Fair Seeding Event for Crash!
April 12, 2021, 12:31:31 PM


All of these are in the gambling section where only one thread per casino is allowed the gambling discussion is the best place for this, I also thought that it's a new casino because I am not aware of the existence of Pasino here.


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