Password managers or passwords from memory - page 2.

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Quote from: ImThour on June 30, 2022, 06:26:03 AM

I don't use any password managers as I have a good enough memory to keep them safe in my mind however I do use a similar password for multiple websites.
That might be an issue but cracking it at first is the big deal. I am not sure If Password Managers are a good option or not, my iPhone's Facecam does a really great job though.

The risk for you to get hack on all of your accounts is huge once one of the platform where you register got hack and the account details of their users will be taken by the hackers. Also some cases their are times that we will forget what password we set that's why I don't trust saving some important details by using memory only because anything could happen so I mostly I always written up my password on multiple 2 notebooks then lock it on my computer desk, so far I never get encounter any issues since I can say I'm safe by using this to any online hacking.

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Quote from: ImThour on June 30, 2022, 06:26:03 AM

I don't use any password managers as I have a good enough memory to keep them safe in my mind however I do use a similar password for multiple websites.
That might be an issue but cracking it at first is the big deal. I am not sure If Password Managers are a good option or not, my iPhone's Facecam does a really great job though.

That means if you are targeted by a hacker and they get hold of your password, they can also gain access to multiple accounts owned by you, that is risky, it's better to lose one account, than multiple of them.

Quote from: Lucius on June 30, 2022, 06:28:22 AM

I may be old school, but I don’t trust any password managers and I rely on creating strong and unique passwords for every service I use, and passwords are stored on paper in multiple copies. I’m not claiming it’s the best solution, but so far no one has hacked me and I’ve never lost a single important password.

Is there any particular reason you don't trust password managers, even the ones that are open source? Any past experience, or because you are old school, or you just have a method that has worked for you down the years.

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Quote from: Z-tight on June 30, 2022, 05:26:33 AM

Password managers seem to be the safest, for those who use them, what are the 'do's and dont's', i do not have too much experience with password managers, so can anything go wrong when using them?

It all depends what kind of password managers you are using.
Anything that uses centralized website service with registration account can be exploited and hacked, so I prefer using open source offline software like KeePass.
I would stay away from services like LastPass that was hacked already with master passwords being compromised, even if they claim that encrypted vault data was not affected.
There was also vulnerability in their browser plugin, and you can always have attack on their company servers.
Whatever password managers you use you need to have strong password that you keep offline in safe place that is ready for recovery, same thing like for bitcoin seed phrase.

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We should admit that password nowadays can be crack no matter how hard it was using brute force software so choosing the best password is least of my concern but rather using secondary security such as sms verification and 2fa to enhance my security to maximum level that hackers can’t penetrate unless he has access to my phone. But all this hack event is only possible if you share your login details or you download malicious software that will give the hacker your login details.

Actually if the password is long enough and complicated enough it still takes longer than the hacker's lifetime to crack it.
Even more, while secondary security is a good goal, far too many don't understand that SMS can be stolen/impersonated and even more fail to understand that having a 2FA tool on the same device (phone) as the one used to go to the various websites and platforms pretty much voids the benefits of having two layers of security.

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Indeed, I am lazy enough to use Bitwarden with their cloud service. I hope though that my password is strong enough.

I will add that it's also good to not keep life changing amounts (of bitcoin) on online platforms and also it's a terrible idea to save HD seeds and private keys into password managers (and I've seen such ideas here and there).
I think that it's best to have a "good enough" security, but also ensure that if that one fails it won't be the end of the world for you.

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I may be old school, but I don’t trust any password managers and I rely on creating strong and unique passwords for every service I use, and passwords are stored on paper in multiple copies. I’m not claiming it’s the best solution, but so far no one has hacked me and I’ve never lost a single important password.

If the password is complex enough (lowercase/uppercase letters, numbers, and special characters) it is enough to have up to 15 characters, each password strength meter for such passwords will show the time for their crack would be in billions of years. Maybe quantum computers will reduce that time a bit in the future, so no one will make a mistake if they use more complex passwords.

Quote from: ImThour on June 30, 2022, 06:26:03 AM

I don't use any password managers as I have a good enough memory to keep them safe in my mind however I do use a similar password for multiple websites.

No matter how safe you feel at the moment, the risk you take is very high - not only because you keep passwords in your mind, but also because you use similar passwords for all services. However, there is a better chance that you will hit your head and experience amnesia, than that someone will hack you if you have a somewhat strong password.

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I don't use any password managers as I have a good enough memory to keep them safe in my mind however I do use a similar password for multiple websites.
That might be an issue but cracking it at first is the big deal. I am not sure If Password Managers are a good option or not, my iPhone's Facecam does a really great job though.

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Choose LastPass or Bitwarden if you want the best free password manager. Dashlane is a good option too if you want something that's more than a password manager because of its wide range of security features and it provides more use than almost any other password manager.

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Not-safe: using a bad password and using the same password on multiple accounts

Safe: using password managers(1password, dashlane) with a strong master password

Safest: using a self-hosted password manager(keepass, bitwarden) with a strong master password

On the top of my head I can't think of much dos and donts besides following the typical security guidelines like not installing shady software and all that.

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Creating a password is very important, weak passwords means hackers can easily gain access to your accounts, and many of us have a lot of online accounts across different platforms, so creating a password for each account, including emails becomes a task. There are two ways of creating a password, either through your brain or with a password manager, like keePass for example.

The purpose of this topic is to know which of the two ways this community thinks is the safest!!!

If you create passwords from your mind it will have to be complex so hackers can't get it, and it will be difficult for you to remember so you'd have to write them down on paper, because if you save them in your email or online, then it is unsafe, but what of in a situation that the paper you used to back up your password is misplaced or damaged, what are the additional back ups for people who use this method to ensure their passwords are safe forever.

Password managers seem to be the safest, for those who use them, what are the 'do's and dont's', i do not have too much experience with password managers, so can anything go wrong when using them? Any knowledge or experience you have on password creation will be appreciated so others can learn from it.

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