Topic: Paying $50 in BTC for 300 word essay (Read 1454 times)

Yes, I completely understand.  That's why I didn't take any offence to the criticism.  I did have to respond, because my posts within this thread particularly have been pretty slapdash.  I think it's a fair point to bring up, but I don't think the comparison or criticism is entirely justified concern in this case.  Even accounting for speed and carelessness, my posts are generally pretty good.  You certainly won't see me say that "your going to love" my work.  My use of sentence fragments and such within this thread was initially reflective of the need for speed, and then of how angry I was.  Basically, I'm saying "Please don't judge me.  If you must, please don't judge me on this thread lest your judgement be appropriately negative".  


I'm shutting up now.

It wasn't an attack at your forum posts themselves. It's just the principle of the matter when it deals with situations like this. It just reminded me of a post I saw on CraigsList where a guy was offering up his professional writing services (with claims he has been teaching English in college for years) and yet it was riddled with mistakes like "your going to love it." My first thought was, "there's no way I would trust him with professional documents. I would have to go back and proofread them after he's done, and if I'm doing that I might as well just write them."

you guys sure love yakking about nothing

Thanks Ranlo - I think.   

Posts written on a forum are not representative of anybody's best work.  Sentence fragments aren't OK in professional writing, but they're perfectly acceptable in casual usage here.

In this case, the OP was very clear that he was looking for speed rather than perfection, which I delivered.  Perfection takes more time, but I can deliver that as well.  Your criticism is duly noted however - I'll take more care in my forum posts generally.   

This was my thought exactly. Had I been the one to accept this, I would have started on it immediately and had it completed (along with all editing and proofreading) within 15 to 20 minutes. I would be very disappointed if he then, after all of that work, turned around and said it was no longer needed. It's not like I would have any other use for that work, and it would mean I took time away from my other work. As a result, I would not be willing to take the 25%. I could understand accepting this if you hadn't started, though.

Also, I would say that vitalemontea lucked out on this deal. Not to be too critical, but BitCoinUser123's posts here are grammatically incorrect and one would assume that an admissions essay would be looking for a more professionally written statement. In most cases I would not call someone out for this, but when it deals with areas where proper writing is important, it becomes a big deal.

Don't worry, BitCoinUser123. I still love you! <3.

 

OP more than made good.  I shouldn't have gotten as angry as I did, and particularly shouldn't have done so publicly.  Apologies for kicking up a fuss, and thank you for making good.  Very solid.

Sent 25%, sorry for all the trouble

Give me address to send %25 to

I was just about to post a follow-up reply here now that I've had a few minutes to cool down.

To be clear - I'm personally ticked off, but I'm not submitting a scam accusation and I'm not even filling out a negative trust evaluation.  I would say that your conduct was improper, but I also see where you are coming from.  If your "customer" pulled his request, then you're in the same situation as I am, but without undertaking the work.

In future if you're going to do something like this, I'd strongly suggest you have the funds ahead of time, because you can't request a <1-hr turnaround and cancel within half an hour and then expect people not to be angry.

Honestly, there's no way to compensate that wouldn't leave you out of pocket on the deal.  I'd like to be paid something, but I don't honestly expect it.  Simplest solution would be for you to compensate with a good transaction another time where you contact me directly and then pay prior to work being completed, particularly now that you've seen that I can produce pretty quickly.

Would I love to be paid 25%?  Yes.  Do I think it's strictly reasonable for you to make nothing and have to pay me 1/4 of what you were going to make?  Not particularly.

Somebody's out of pocket on this no matter how you look at it.  I'm annoyed, but I'm not so unreasonable as to actually hold it against you in the long term.  I'd accept an apology and a recognition of the fact that I did the job appropriately, even though you're in a position of the order vanishing for whatever reason.  To be honest, the thing that bugged me the most was your implication via PM that I was dishonest in saying I had finished.

Sorry, I'm rambling again.  Bottom line:  No way to compensate that isn't to some degree a case of me robbing you over what I feel entitled to.  I'm a fan of efficiency, and anybody paying something for gaining nothing isn't efficient.  I wasted twenty-some minutes of my time, there's no reason for you to also waste a fraction of a BTC on business you didn't get.  I don't consider that you owe me anything, but the apology and acknowledgement that I got it done would be nice.

Offer me options on how to compensate.

Lol nm. Guess that was a waste of ten minutes, lol.

Computer science strikes me as a field of precision. A good computer scientist must be naturally logically oriented and able to work more effectively with concrete ideas, and be detail oriented. A talent excelled at by a certain percentage of minds, of which mine is included. Being an expert in any field requires passion, and an understanding of the potential that has yet to be reaped from further study in the field of one's choice. It requires a desire to take knowledge to limit of current understanding so that one might be prepared to contribute effectively.

I am interested in computer science because I grew up with computers and have had to gain an intrinsic understanding of their functions when interacting with them. So far I have a fundamental understand of *fill in the blank* and experience from taking classes in *whatever* *use your liberties here I guess*

Opportunities for code and logic oriented people able to understand computing are being created everyday, and I have the ambition and drive to succeed at offering as much to the Netherlands as the Netherlands has to offer me.


Hope this helps.

a) It wasn't 5 minutes, it was over 20.
b) You ask for a rush job on an ASAP basis, aiming for under an hour and then cancel within half an hour - that means that the job would be substantially done (or completely done, as in this case) by the time you cancel.
b) I'm not asking for a scammer tag, I'm not submitting a report, I'm saying that I'm personally displeased with you and I consider your conduct unacceptable

Your feedback that you "doubt I could write the essay in that timeframe" is both irrelevant and wrong.  It's neither here nor there to me, it was a dodgy transaction to start with.  But you are not in the right here, whether "scammer" is objectively the right label or not.

I needed to calm down here and actually talk to the OP, not assume that he was jerking me around.  He acquitted himself admirably, and I feel rather bad for getting so angry with him. Being angry was justified, but slagging down his character was not.

From the time stamp its 20 minutes after the guy started that he backed out, thats half the essay of within an hour. I would agree on him being a scammer if he doesn't compensate that in some way.

in my business 25% is the usual fee, if ya cancel the job - after you agreed - and somebody started working.

he had a "has to be done in 1 h" paragraph - so what did he expect , other then somebody who speeds up ?
if the guys is fast he has the first 100-200 words in the 17 minutes between you said - "ok"  and "oh not sorry"

just my 2 cents.

He apologized and it was like 10 minutes. Big whoop. What can you do, but complain?

He still wasted the guys time.. You don't do that lol. That's pretty sad.

Once they start, you've signed the contract and ya off. No cancelling lol

Scamming would entail waiting for the essay and not paying, or giving signs of such. the OP simply canceled within a reasonable time; no harm done.

I let you know that I don't need it anymore within 5 minutes.
God you are fast to give that scammer tag.

Sorry didn't except guy to tell me he doesn't need it anymore.