Paypal allows crypto payment for all 29mil merchants

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It is good news that Paypal supports cryptocurrencies, this will increase the popularity of the crypto market, and thousands of people who use Paypal will join the crypto due to its wonderful capabilities, we hope that more online payment sites will support crypto such as payoneer, stripe and others.

Paypal is bigger with those typical payment providers online but it would be good if they will be adding up into their feature where you can deal up with bitcoin
aside from fiat transactions and now that Paypal did make the first move then this possibly able to open up others eyes and might consider on going with the
same path but dont expect that all will really be having the same input or perception towards bitcoin because there are still those no-coiners or non-believers on this
market.Now that paypal allows crypto payment then this is really a good news of adoption.

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Quote from: gbrendeh on April 04, 2021, 06:58:10 PM

This is a huge and great news for crypto space. More token will be supported as we graduate to a mass adoption. I can see that we are in the era of digital currency, and before we know, we are going to experience the same as that of internet which nobody can do without it at present.

But, paypal has always been a bad one, between paying for fees to getting your account locked to creating debt when there is none all things paypal does is a bad business practice. Many people moved to other places as well and I think they were right about moving somewhere else.

I just think that paypal is trying to gather some crypto people because they have lost a lot of momentum they had, the previous 10 years of paypals life was a lot better than the last few years (maybe except 2020 and 2021 because of pandemic, but more like 2017 and 18 and 19) and that is why I think they are trying to get crypto people involved, to get back into the momentum they had. Some companies grow super fast, I mean facebook was invented in 2004 and had just Harvard, in 2007 it was all over the world, but they can't keep growing bigger forever, paypal can't neither so that is why they are trying to grap as much as they can while going down.

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I also do not understand the optimism around this news. There is nothing fundamentally new, another derivative has been created that has a very weak relationship to trading using bitcoin. No acceptance or anything positive - on the contrary, if the "progress" of the crypto continues in this way, then in the end it will be completely controlled and managed by banks.

I personally barely use Paypal but the thing is Paypal is a mainstream payment processor and them implementing cryptocurrencies in their service from buying and selling them to directly converting them is a big step towards mass adoption. Since it is mainstream then definitely it will boost the awareness of a lot of users about what cryptocurrencies are which is for me beneficial for us. We have been all waiting for big names to step up and have cryptocurrencies part of their businesses now that they are here I don't understand why there is still negativity about it.

In recent months I have been using PP very actively and it is a big pain Grin

But I have to admit that none of my counterparties offered me to use the crypto instead of PP, there were proposals regarding other payment systems, but not a single one about the crypto. And I do not know how this innovation from the PP will expand the use of crypto, except as an investment tool.

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Even though currently Paypal only accepts 4 coins that can be used as payment for the 29 million merchants that work with Paypal. I am sure that
if the demand is high, the number of coins received as payment will increase in number. But this is already a very good move by Paypal, as evidenced
by the fact that after this news started to spread, the price of crypto started to slowly rise. Because what Paypal is doing has been waiting for a long
time by some Paypal users, and now it can be realized. This Paypal decision made an advantage for both parties with Paypal itself and also
the crypto community which did use Paypal.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 04, 2021, 08:30:24 AM

I also do not understand the optimism around this news. There is nothing fundamentally new, another derivative has been created that has a very weak relationship to trading using bitcoin. No acceptance or anything positive - on the contrary, if the "progress" of the crypto continues in this way, then in the end it will be completely controlled and managed by banks.

I personally barely use Paypal but the thing is Paypal is a mainstream payment processor and them implementing cryptocurrencies in their service from buying and selling them to directly converting them is a big step towards mass adoption. Since it is mainstream then definitely it will boost the awareness of a lot of users about what cryptocurrencies are which is for me beneficial for us. We have been all waiting for big names to step up and have cryptocurrencies part of their businesses now that they are here I don't understand why there is still negativity about it.

I use PayPal but still not using their crypto services. If you are a longtime crypto user, you won't use PayPal for your crypto dealings. However, for newcomers, this platform is a good introductory platform for them to be oriented in crypto. And I believe, PayPal is improving their crypto services as they are realizing that crypto users won't really use their platform for crypto transactions.

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This is a huge and great news for crypto space. More token will be supported as we graduate to a mass adoption. I can see that we are in the era of digital currency, and before we know, we are going to experience the same as that of internet which nobody can do without it at present.

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Quote from: janggernaut on March 30, 2021, 08:34:54 AM

This is the reason of bitcoin pump right now, if anyone still curious.

https://cryptobriefing.com/paypal-allow-crypto-payments-29-million-merchants/

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PayPal customers can now use the cryptocurrency in their PayPal account to pay for goods and services online. The payments giant will automatically convert the users’ cryptocurrency into fiat before settling the transaction, so this will not change anything for merchants.

The supported cryptocurrencies on PayPal so far are Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.

But it's currently only supported 4 coins, hopefully they will allow other coin as well in the future.

This should be enough to push the price to the $60k level hopefully this news will create a big impact on the price in the coming weeks, the 4 coins are enough for now, they don't want to overwhelm their users with so many coins especially unfamiliar coins in the market, hopefully, in the future, they include international users to use this feature, this is to further increase users of Cryptocurrency of their members.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 04, 2021, 08:30:24 AM

I also do not understand the optimism around this news. There is nothing fundamentally new, another derivative has been created that has a very weak relationship to trading using bitcoin. No acceptance or anything positive - on the contrary, if the "progress" of the crypto continues in this way, then in the end it will be completely controlled and managed by banks.

I personally barely use Paypal but the thing is Paypal is a mainstream payment processor and them implementing cryptocurrencies in their service from buying and selling them to directly converting them is a big step towards mass adoption. Since it is mainstream then definitely it will boost the awareness of a lot of users about what cryptocurrencies are which is for me beneficial for us. We have been all waiting for big names to step up and have cryptocurrencies part of their businesses now that they are here I don't understand why there is still negativity about it.

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Quote from: janggernaut on March 30, 2021, 08:34:54 AM

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PayPal customers can now use the cryptocurrency in their PayPal account to pay for goods and services online. The payments giant will automatically convert the users’ cryptocurrency into fiat before settling the transaction, so this will not change anything for merchants.

The supported cryptocurrencies on PayPal so far are Bitcoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin.

But it's currently only supported 4 coins, hopefully they will allow other coin as well in the future.

I think this is going to be a decent news but nothing big. I mean when paypal got involved they bought some to make sure that they are backing it up, SEC is no joke about these things, if you tell people that they own bitcoin at paypal platform that means paypal should have that much bitcoin to back up that claim otherwise SEC would destroy them. That is why the initial launch was a big deal and it helped us increase a bit thanks to it.

However I do not agree that this one is as important as that one, there is clearly some difference and that is why I think it should not be considered equals. It is definitely not the same because we are talking about just newer versions of the old news, it is just improving, the first initial launch is obviously bigger deal, whereas improving on that launch is just good news but nothing could compare to what it was.

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Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on April 02, 2021, 06:25:04 PM

Just like an exchange, they will not add all coin/token in short pariode of time. They will analyst the function of the token/coin first to measure that the token/coin will be used in the platform.

But yeah, most of the coin that will be choosen by most new platform that just accept crypto currency will choose bitcoin or ethereum as the main place. Because both of the coin have a lot of community so as can attract their community to use the new platform that just accept the coin.

They add these coins/tokens not for the coin's community but for their existing users, they want to add coins that's easy to understand how it function and their users can easily relate, remember their old users are not aware or do not know how to use Cryptocurrency and they are introducing it to them, they do not want to overwhelm their users, so they add 4 coins, for now, but expect PayPal to add more later.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on April 02, 2021, 06:00:58 PM

Quote from: janggernaut on March 30, 2021, 08:34:54 AM

This is the reason of bitcoin pump right now, if anyone still curious.
But it's currently only supported 4 coins, hopefully they will allow other coin as well in the future.

What is the point in adding more coins if you are not able to do the basic function of owning the coin, right now you are not owning anything just some digits in a software. So the market increases because people will hedge bitcoin to purchase products Grin

. As long as PayPal does not allow its customers to withdraw the coins i do not really consider this as adoption.
If i want to purchase anything i really do not need to purchase bitcoin from Paypal to do so i can do that in other effective ways without the fuzz Grin

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I also do not understand the optimism around this news. There is nothing fundamentally new, another derivative has been created that has a very weak relationship to trading using bitcoin. No acceptance or anything positive - on the contrary, if the "progress" of the crypto continues in this way, then in the end it will be completely controlled and managed by banks.

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Quote from: janggernaut on March 30, 2021, 08:34:54 AM

But it's currently only supported 4 coins, hopefully they will allow other coin as well in the future.

It's just the start the 4 coins are the most used coins in the market, PayPal is a profit-driven company, they will greatly benefit them if they add more coins, they should have done this in the first place when they adopt Cryptocurrency the first time, this is a good development for the community it's a win-win situation and greatly helps the price to move up.

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Just like an exchange, they will not add all coin/token in short pariode of time. They will analyst the function of the token/coin first to measure that the token/coin will be used in the platform.

But yeah, most of the coin that will be choosen by most new platform that just accept crypto currency will choose bitcoin or ethereum as the main place. Because both of the coin have a lot of community so as can attract their community to use the new platform that just accept the coin.

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Quote from: janggernaut on March 30, 2021, 08:34:54 AM

This is the reason of bitcoin pump right now, if anyone still curious.
But it's currently only supported 4 coins, hopefully they will allow other coin as well in the future.

What is the point in adding more coins if you are not able to do the basic function of owning the coin, right now you are not owning anything just some digits in a software. So the market increases because people will hedge bitcoin to purchase products Grin

. As long as PayPal does not allow its customers to withdraw the coins i do not really consider this as adoption.
If i want to purchase anything i really do not need to purchase bitcoin from Paypal to do so i can do that in other effective ways without the fuzz Grin

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They dont have to sell, they can hedge with contracts for difference or whatever the market provides to swap them over to dollars then its someone elses problem to place in the market. I dont think paypal is interested in crypto as such, its just another tool like any other currency they deal with in order to facilitate customers sticking with them ultimately and keeping a revenue stream of fees. Their margins will cover the costs of dealing with BTC and I would guess its more efficient for them not to live deal BTC themselves but lay off that business to others as per cashflow requirements.

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It's no surprise that this has sparked a rally in markets, but I'm honestly not sure whether it is justified.

The merchants aren't getting paid in crypto at all, which means that it's not necessarily going to encourage adoption at a wide scale. To them, there is simply no exposure to crypto that comes out of this. What is the difference between this initiative and other established payment processors such as Bitpay, then?

I also wonder what Paypal is doing with the coins. Do they hold it themselves for the long run, or do they sell it off straight away on exchanges? The former scenario would be interesting.

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At least with Bitpay you can actually ask customers to pay to a real Bitcoin address. With Paypal, you just add paypal and hope your customers who "buy Bitcoin" at Paypal think it's a cool idea.

Sooner or later, they will realize this difference. However, for now, a lot of them like the idea that they are accepting bitcoin via PayPal. This platform has a lot of users, so no wonder, merchants wanted to take part in this innovation. But in the long term, they will find other ways like using BitPay instead of PayPal. It will take time for them to understand the pros and cons on using these networks. But at least we are heading to this adoption thing. Whether PayPal is not really good for crypto transactions.

I'm not so sure about that honestly. Merchants have been using Bitpay for over 5 years now when there are cheaper and better alternatives out there that allow for real bitcoin transfers. In the end very few merchants actually want to really use bitcoin now so they're all thinking of convenience, so are most users now.

That's always going to be the case I guess, even knowing pros and cons.

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The only benefit to this that I can see is that it might save you the fees so you don't need to sell your BTC back to USD to spend those USD. Last time I checked the fees were very high for buying and selling BTC. Something like 2% one way so 4% in total.

Since they allowed this, I am assuming if you buy something for $100 in BTC, they will just take the exact $100 in BTC and not charge you any fee for it. Most likely the merchant either won't have to pay this fee either since many merchants would refuse such a huge fee and just disable btc payments all together if that was the case.

So I can see this being beneficial, especially since most people bought BTC on paypal when it was like $25-30K now they can get twice as much spendable funds from their initial investment.

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Quote from: Wilhelm on March 30, 2021, 10:38:58 AM

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Sad that Bitcoin Cash was still sorta considered a major coin when Paypal initially made the decision of what coins to include. Gives legitimacy to a fraud coin.

Welp, the major criticism from crypto-haters that you can't buy anything with Bitcoin just died a quick death.

Will be interesting how this affects the market long term. While it means you can widely use Bitcoin around the world, it doesn't change the fact that it is smarter to hold your Bitcoin than spend it in most circumstances. Also since Paypal just converts the crypto to fiat and sends fiat to the merchant, what this really does is add sell pressure to the market - very different than if people were accepting Bitcoin and a widespread bitcoin-to-bitcoin exchange was happening. Still, this is a slap in the face to every critic who says Bitcoin isn't a currency, since it will now be widely spendable, even if it is indirectly.

You do know that BCH is actually the original Bitcoin right?
BCH might be a shitty coin but it isn’t a shitcoin....

you should write comedy

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Quite bullish news because they could have taken years to do the same and just play it safe. The reaction in price is quite subdued is my take compared to the potential scale of various news like this. We do have a rising dollar index at the present which I would guess does add pressure to all speculative assets and crypto is one of those surely, maybe its a slow vice effect and I'm counting too soon but anyhow I do see the Dollar as trend up while 92 or higher.

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