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Topic: PAYPAL TO BITCOIN, I SELL BITCOIN, NO ID NO QUESTION ASKED YES ESCROW (Read 1683 times)

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Actually, we can do it without Escrow, you pay with Paypal (no id, no question asked) and I send you the BTC.
I do have an italian topic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/aaa-paypal-to-bitcoin-vendo-bitcoin-accetto-paypal-no-id-yes-escrow-1008688 check it out!
My rate is ok for the risk I take, if you want to know that please PM.



if you really want deal bitcoin honestly why you can't give out for more details here. Why must PM without make it clearly here.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1004
Why does everyone think people that will use PayPal to buy coins are dishonest thieves who charge back? I assume most people just have some funds laying around in paypal and want to buy some coins with it like I do, I sell quite a bit off ebay and therefore if I sent funds to another member I cannot charge back because my purchase wasn't funded by a credit card. Maybe its all changed now with the price of BTC what it is but back in the day when I first started out and coins were $10-20 I sold thousands worth on eBay and never ONCE had a single chargeback out of 100+ orders. Maybe I ran good but before I completed a sale I made sure the buyers had positive feedbacks.

Funny... I sold coins on eBay too, and within 6 months of my sales, nearly every transaction was charged back.

No, I don't think that it's paypal buyers being dishonest, i think that people with stolen PP credentials were scanning eBay looking for suckers selling Bitcoins. Bid on auction, send PP payment of funds that aren't theirs, receive Bitcoin and go on your way... Then a month or two later when someone opens up their CC statement, they say "i didn't order that, that wasn't me", and call either their CC or PP, and complain.... And as a seller of "digital goods", there is zero way that you can prove that the coins you sent were received by the CC owner... You can show a transaction on the blockchain, you can show the eBay messaging, but at the end, you have no legs to stand on...

Somehow, recalling my own experience, I'm not believing you. EXCEPT, if you were selling for 10 or 20 a piece, you were probably a year before me, so maybe its' just that scammers hadn't picked up on Bitcoin quite yet... That's the only thing I can think of, tbh.

It is paypal and Visa and Mastercard fault, this is legal credit card chargeback scam, which anyone can do within 30 days with no fear of prosecution for fraud.

Paypal and Visa and Mastercard categorize crypto currencies as "intangiable products", therefore sending via the blockchain is not considered evidence, emails from the buyer are not seen as evidence. Therefore, Paypal and Visa and Mastercard will always settle this legal scam or fraud in the favor of buyer. 

So, organisations like Paypal and Visa and Mastercard have made this crime legal. Anyone who wants to steal crypto currency, just has to find a seller willing to accept credit card payments and they will get the crypto currency plus the money they paid for it refunded back to them.

The scammers and fraudsters, can simply buy lots of small amounts of BTC or LTC or DRK. They don't even need one big transaction, because they contact their credit card company and request chargebacks on all the transactions, even if their 50 of them.

If, you are not willing to cover the cost of scammed refunds with your own money (this is correct decision when you are victim of legal crimes), your Paypal account will get closed down, they will send you some nasty letters about the outstanding balance and send a default notice to the credit agencies. And, you'll need to open a Skrill account to buy stuff off ebay or ask for other payment options from ebay sellers.


 
 
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
Why does everyone think people that will use PayPal to buy coins are dishonest thieves who charge back? I assume most people just have some funds laying around in paypal and want to buy some coins with it like I do, I sell quite a bit off ebay and therefore if I sent funds to another member I cannot charge back because my purchase wasn't funded by a credit card. Maybe its all changed now with the price of BTC what it is but back in the day when I first started out and coins were $10-20 I sold thousands worth on eBay and never ONCE had a single chargeback out of 100+ orders. Maybe I ran good but before I completed a sale I made sure the buyers had positive feedbacks.

Funny... I sold coins on eBay too, and within 6 months of my sales, nearly every transaction was charged back.

No, I don't think that it's paypal buyers being dishonest, i think that people with stolen PP credentials were scanning eBay looking for suckers selling Bitcoins. Bid on auction, send PP payment of funds that aren't theirs, receive Bitcoin and go on your way... Then a month or two later when someone opens up their CC statement, they say "i didn't order that, that wasn't me", and call either their CC or PP, and complain.... And as a seller of "digital goods", there is zero way that you can prove that the coins you sent were received by the CC owner... You can show a transaction on the blockchain, you can show the eBay messaging, but at the end, you have no legs to stand on...

Somehow, recalling my own experience, I'm not believing you. EXCEPT, if you were selling for 10 or 20 a piece, you were probably a year before me, so maybe its' just that scammers hadn't picked up on Bitcoin quite yet... That's the only thing I can think of, tbh.
full member
Activity: 169
Merit: 100
Why does everyone think people that will use PayPal to buy coins are dishonest thieves who charge back? I assume most people just have some funds laying around in paypal and want to buy some coins with it like I do, I sell quite a bit off ebay and therefore if I sent funds to another member I cannot charge back because my purchase wasn't funded by a credit card. Maybe its all changed now with the price of BTC what it is but back in the day when I first started out and coins were $10-20 I sold thousands worth on eBay and never ONCE had a single chargeback out of 100+ orders. Maybe I ran good but before I completed a sale I made sure the buyers had positive feedbacks.

Generally speaking, dishonest thieves here will use stolen PayPal accounts to fund purchases of online goods (namely bitcoins in this case, and because a bitcoin transaction is irreversible). In many cases, it's not these people actually making the chargebacks themselves, but instead the rightful owners of these accounts contacting the Police or their Banks and them reversing the transactions. People who do this are idiots because they're committing fraud, but many are merely teenagers and don't understand the full consequences of their actions.

Members and everyone in general are correct to be wary when accepting paypal payment in return for bitcoin.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Why does everyone think people that will use PayPal to buy coins are dishonest thieves who charge back? I assume most people just have some funds laying around in paypal and want to buy some coins with it like I do, I sell quite a bit off ebay and therefore if I sent funds to another member I cannot charge back because my purchase wasn't funded by a credit card. Maybe its all changed now with the price of BTC what it is but back in the day when I first started out and coins were $10-20 I sold thousands worth on eBay and never ONCE had a single chargeback out of 100+ orders. Maybe I ran good but before I completed a sale I made sure the buyers had positive feedbacks.
member
Activity: 126
Merit: 10
You are saying that you accept escrow so you understand that you have to send your Bitcoin first to the escrow (trusted member) and then get paid, as i see you state that you want the money first....that not going to work special with your profile...Also i am curious why you are willing to take that kind of risk as many will ask a refund from paypal when they receive the Bitcoins or later, with the result of a block account for you and money frozen if there exist..Doesn't sound very good..Anyway good luck with it!

Kind Regards,
BTC-Bank.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1004
Hi folks,

as you can see from my name, I'm a big fan of Breaking Bad, ehm yes Bitcoin too Smiley
Therefore I think everybody should have the chance to buy Bitcoin!
Don't waste your time trying to do so on exchanges and stuff, buy it from me!
I do accept escrow, no problem!

P.s. I would suggest to start with a little amount!

Jesse

Seller, you should not touch Paypal, you are doing Kamikaze by selling via Paypal, especially in Italy. Buyers can just do credit card chargebacks via Paypal and your account will be thousands in the red and then closed.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Hi folks,

as you can see from my name, I'm a big fan of Breaking Bad, ehm yes Bitcoin too Smiley
Therefore I think everybody should have the chance to buy Bitcoin!
Don't waste your time trying to do so on exchanges and stuff, buy it from me!
I do accept escrow, no problem!

P.s. I would suggest to start with a little amount!

Jesse

You're deserve to believe for deal. I think so

Wish you success !
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I am planning to! It will be available soon!

Jesse
legendary
Activity: 1143
Merit: 1000
Do you take neteller?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Rate depends on the amount! I have plenty of btc.
We can use Escrow!!! as it states the title Smiley
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
What is your rate and how much stocks of Bitcoin do you have?
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
I first receive the money and then I send BTC, we can use Escrow no problem!!!
I repeat, risk is on me, no ID no question asked...
Lol no, no-one is going to send you the money first you are a newbie... You will have to send to members first.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I first receive the money and then I send BTC, we can use Escrow no problem!!!
I repeat, risk is on me, no ID no question asked...
hero member
Activity: 529
Merit: 500
I can buy 14$ worth if you send first. PM me
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
Why are you so eager to part with your bitcoins?

I can predict your end result:

You sell all the coins you have for sale collect via PayPal, and the 3-6 months later all your sales are charged back.

I'm trying to figure out your end game, but I won't post my speculations.
full member
Activity: 146
Merit: 100
full member
Activity: 146
Merit: 100
I'll by 17.50 off you rightnow. what is your rate!
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I really appreciate your comments!
But as I said (and you know that) risk is on me!
We can use escrow as it states the title.
If you want to know the price please PM.
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
This wont end well...


I suggest you only deal with trusted members and a trusted escrow secure your coins.
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