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Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 01:24:59 PM

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I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

As I said UPI lite is an option but if you need higher limits then you can try Amazon Pay that I have been using for very long time but only for making online purchases not UPI payments but whenever I tried it worked fine but it has its limitations since its considered as bank not wallet you can add upto 10K per month.

If you need higher limits then banks are the only choice, IDFC, Kotak and many private banks offering instant account opening after submission of KYC but the minimum balance you need to maintain will be 10K.

UPI lite is good but the limit makes it not so useful. Amazon Pay doesn't work with many merchants as the ones near me use gpay or bhim. The banks require me to open a savings account after a year using their digital savings account.

Irrespective of whatever merchants use, you scan qr with amazon pay and will be able to make payment, no?

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I hope an alternative is found soon else will need to switch back to debit cards Sad

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Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 01:24:59 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 19, 2024, 01:19:50 PM

Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 12:38:07 PM

I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

As I said UPI lite is an option but if you need higher limits then you can try Amazon Pay that I have been using for very long time but only for making online purchases not UPI payments but whenever I tried it worked fine but it has its limitations since its considered as bank not wallet you can add upto 10K per month.

If you need higher limits then banks are the only choice, IDFC, Kotak and many private banks offering instant account opening after submission of KYC but the minimum balance you need to maintain will be 10K.

UPI lite is good but the limit makes it not so useful. Amazon Pay doesn't work with many merchants as the ones near me use gpay or bhim. The banks require me to open a savings account after a year using their digital savings account.

I hope an alternative is found soon else will need to switch back to debit cards Sad

Amazon pay used Bhim too, so whatever QR code the vendor is having then you can make payment using Amazon pay as well. UPI lite is only useful for small payments but if you often make big purchases and doesn't want to go with banking system then your only option is to pay via cash but even for that you can only pay upto 50K without PAN and providing PAN you can pay upto 2 lakh anything further has to be paid via digitally is mandatory.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 01:24:59 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 19, 2024, 01:19:50 PM

Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 12:38:07 PM

I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

As I said UPI lite is an option but if you need higher limits then you can try Amazon Pay that I have been using for very long time but only for making online purchases not UPI payments but whenever I tried it worked fine but it has its limitations since its considered as bank not wallet you can add upto 10K per month.

If you need higher limits then banks are the only choice, IDFC, Kotak and many private banks offering instant account opening after submission of KYC but the minimum balance you need to maintain will be 10K.

UPI lite is good but the limit makes it not so useful. Amazon Pay doesn't work with many merchants as the ones near me use gpay or bhim. The banks require me to open a savings account after a year using their digital savings account.

I hope an alternative is found soon else will need to switch back to debit cards Sad

If you have a Jio connection then you can go for their payment bank and UPI service. I have used it in the past for only UPI payment it worked fine at that time not sure how it is working now. I prefer to use my Kotak 300 bank account UPI for my small expenses and like you, I also do not prefer using my main savings account for any transactions. You could either look into Jio or try this account by Kotak it allows zero balance saving accounts the only issue with it is that availing Debit card on that bank account is not free.

I have jio connection and will try it out. I just closed my kotak account so don't want to try their zero balance one. Thanks!

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Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 01:24:59 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 19, 2024, 01:19:50 PM

Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 12:38:07 PM

I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

As I said UPI lite is an option but if you need higher limits then you can try Amazon Pay that I have been using for very long time but only for making online purchases not UPI payments but whenever I tried it worked fine but it has its limitations since its considered as bank not wallet you can add upto 10K per month.

If you need higher limits then banks are the only choice, IDFC, Kotak and many private banks offering instant account opening after submission of KYC but the minimum balance you need to maintain will be 10K.

UPI lite is good but the limit makes it not so useful. Amazon Pay doesn't work with many merchants as the ones near me use gpay or bhim. The banks require me to open a savings account after a year using their digital savings account.

I hope an alternative is found soon else will need to switch back to debit cards Sad

If you have a Jio connection then you can go for their payment bank and UPI service. I have used it in the past for only UPI payment it worked fine at that time not sure how it is working now. I prefer to use my Kotak 300 bank account UPI for my small expenses and like you, I also do not prefer using my main savings account for any transactions. You could either look into Jio or try this account by Kotak it allows zero balance saving accounts the only issue with it is that availing Debit card on that bank account is not free.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 19, 2024, 01:19:50 PM

Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 12:38:07 PM

I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

As I said UPI lite is an option but if you need higher limits then you can try Amazon Pay that I have been using for very long time but only for making online purchases not UPI payments but whenever I tried it worked fine but it has its limitations since its considered as bank not wallet you can add upto 10K per month.

If you need higher limits then banks are the only choice, IDFC, Kotak and many private banks offering instant account opening after submission of KYC but the minimum balance you need to maintain will be 10K.

UPI lite is good but the limit makes it not so useful. Amazon Pay doesn't work with many merchants as the ones near me use gpay or bhim. The banks require me to open a savings account after a year using their digital savings account.

I hope an alternative is found soon else will need to switch back to debit cards Sad

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Quote from: erikalui on February 19, 2024, 12:38:07 PM

I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

As I said UPI lite is an option but if you need higher limits then you can try Amazon Pay that I have been using for very long time but only for making online purchases not UPI payments but whenever I tried it worked fine but it has its limitations since its considered as bank not wallet you can add upto 10K per month.

If you need higher limits then banks are the only choice, IDFC, Kotak and many private banks offering instant account opening after submission of KYC but the minimum balance you need to maintain will be 10K.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on February 19, 2024, 11:04:08 AM

Quote from: erikalui on February 18, 2024, 08:00:59 AM

Paytm UPI was the best option for me and now I'm using Bhim which is much more complicated. Paytm had its own bank and it was easy to add and withdraw money which is not offered by other UPI alternatives.

BHIM app is good but is overfeatured and is often clanky to use. In that sense, GPay and Phonepe has better interfaces and I use GPay almost regularly to make payments hoping for some good cashbacks. They used to give away few single digit INR value cashbacks directly back in 2020 but they dont anymore.

Still I keep getting hopeful I will get some one fine day.

As far as Paytm is concerned, I can see them selling off to someone else and moving on.

I use Gpay but often face issues loading the app which takes a while compared to Paytm. Actually, Paytm bank was the only bank account I used to pay via gpay, Paytm UPI, Bhim, Amazon etc. Now I need to use my savings bank account which is not something I like to do. Airtel Payments bank also is not good.

I need an alternative to the bank that can be created via KYC with no minimum balance and easy to pay, load and withdraw anytime. Else, UPI apps are many.

People say mobikwik is good but I always get an error completing KYC.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 18, 2024, 08:00:59 AM

Paytm UPI was the best option for me and now I'm using Bhim which is much more complicated. Paytm had its own bank and it was easy to add and withdraw money which is not offered by other UPI alternatives.

BHIM app is good but is overfeatured and is often clanky to use. In that sense, GPay and Phonepe has better interfaces and I use GPay almost regularly to make payments hoping for some good cashbacks. They used to give away few single digit INR value cashbacks directly back in 2020 but they dont anymore.

Still I keep getting hopeful I will get some one fine day.

As far as Paytm is concerned, I can see them selling off to someone else and moving on.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 18, 2024, 08:00:59 AM

Paytm UPI was the best option for me and now I'm using Bhim which is much more complicated. Paytm had its own bank and it was easy to add and withdraw money which is not offered by other UPI alternatives.

You should use Gpay or Phonepe which kind of having similar feature but they don't call themselves as bank because the maximum amount you can add is upto 2000/4000 Rupees and it can be helpful for making small UPI transaction especially one who uses government sector bank where we often face server down errors and money debited but not credited to the beneficiary.

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Paytm UPI was the best option for me and now I'm using Bhim which is much more complicated. Paytm had its own bank and it was easy to add and withdraw money which is not offered by other UPI alternatives.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 09, 2024, 07:29:00 AM

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I am looking for alternatives, do you guys know any way to move the funds to bank account without completing KYC?

I saw opt out permanent closure is an option but yet to try any method.

Try the bolded option as I do not think you would need to complete KYC for it. The best is My FASTag which is a product of the National Highways Authority of India or NHAI that one is good. I understand you have a bank account with ICICI if I remember correctly, they would have a system within their banking app or an external app to provide the service. Like Kotak which is my bank, I have a FASTag service built into the bank app which I need to reload the account every month by INR 1000. I have been using it from the beginning and I have not faced any issues unless there is a server issue.

Just waiting for the deposit of my fast tag to be credited into wallet balance, then I am going to try closing the paytm to transfer the balance to my account instead of completing KYC just to withdraw an amount of 100 INR because we never know what they will be using with these KYC documents further.

I already ordered my ICICI tag via Imobile which is yet to be delivered.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 08, 2024, 07:42:23 AM

I am looking for alternatives, do you guys know any way to move the funds to bank account without completing KYC?

I saw opt out permanent closure is an option but yet to try any method.

Try the bolded option as I do not think you would need to complete KYC for it. The best is My FASTag which is a product of the National Highways Authority of India or NHAI that one is good. I understand you have a bank account with ICICI if I remember correctly, they would have a system within their banking app or an external app to provide the service. Like Kotak which is my bank, I have a FASTag service built into the bank app which I need to reload the account every month by INR 1000. I have been using it from the beginning and I have not faced any issues unless there is a server issue.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on February 09, 2024, 04:29:32 AM

However what is going to stop working is paytm payment bank and not paytm itself. Is Fastag running in the app or in the payments bank? If its the former then you might not have to withdraw it.

I guess the government will have to increase the deadline because some users will be in similar situations too.
#feelsbadman

Not sure whether RBI would give relaxation with the dates as it will only encourage Paytm to do more illegal activities. FASTag is a product of NHAI and they have banned it on Paytm apart from the ban they received from RBI for Paytmbank. They were using a nodal Paytm bank account to process all FASTag payments which is why it will become redundant after 29th of February.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 08, 2024, 07:42:23 AM

I am looking for alternatives, do you guys know any way to move the funds to bank account without completing KYC?

I saw opt out permanent closure is an option but yet to try any method.

Without a KYC your money is as good as locked up in that account on a time bomb set for 29th feb. Sad

The only option you still have at hand to save that money is to get the KYC done ASAP, double time and rescue those funds.

However what is going to stop working is paytm payment bank and not paytm itself. Is Fastag running in the app or in the payments bank? If its the former then you might not have to withdraw it.

I am not aware of the above since I dont use it anymore.

I guess the government will have to increase the deadline because some users will be in similar situations too.
#feelsbadman

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 08, 2024, 07:11:17 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 07, 2024, 11:19:42 AM

I am not sure whether we can use Paytm fastag or not, but I already initiated closure of my tag that I have been using it since 2018, and they said funds will be credited in 5-7 working days.

But sound box and UPI channel may not be affected due to this issue, or at least that is what they show in their app page about what will work and what won't after 29th Feb. I wonder what will happen to each and every store in India that uses Paytm sound box for their UPI payments?

Did watch the recent video of Labour Law Advisor? They came out with a new video only about Paytm and how this company has been manipulating its customers. You should watch it and they have mentioned that the @paytm address would not be usable after the ban gets activated from the 29th of this month. They have given the reason why it will not work, I feel Burea might have come up with a reply on your thread after watching that video. What he is writing has been discussed in that video too with detailed information and their views. Here is the link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBO5arsQrU&t=9s

Wait a minute is this a leap year? It caught my attention when the 29th came as a date for the ban. LOL! Grin

So Paytm still choose to lie?

Anyway I am not using any other their products except fastag and have around 1000 rupees for fast tag top up in their wallet but Irony is now I have to go through KYC to move the balance available in their wallet to my bank account.

I am looking for alternatives, do you guys know any way to move the funds to bank account without completing KYC?

I saw opt out permanent closure is an option but yet to try any method.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 07, 2024, 11:19:42 AM

I am not sure whether we can use Paytm fastag or not, but I already initiated closure of my tag that I have been using it since 2018, and they said funds will be credited in 5-7 working days.

But sound box and UPI channel may not be affected due to this issue, or at least that is what they show in their app page about what will work and what won't after 29th Feb. I wonder what will happen to each and every store in India that uses Paytm sound box for their UPI payments?

Did watch the recent video of Labour Law Advisor? They came out with a new video only about Paytm and how this company has been manipulating its customers. You should watch it and they have mentioned that the @paytm address would not be usable after the ban gets activated from the 29th of this month. They have given the reason why it will not work, I feel Burea might have come up with a reply on your thread after watching that video. What he is writing has been discussed in that video too with detailed information and their views. Here is the link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBO5arsQrU&t=9s

Wait a minute is this a leap year? It caught my attention when the 29th came as a date for the ban. LOL! Grin

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Quote from: Bureau on February 07, 2024, 12:38:45 AM

The PayTM issue is much bigger than it looks. After RBI, NHAI has banned them from issuing FASTag. If anyone is using UPI address that ends with @paytm, please shift to another service provider as it will be banned after 29th of this month. If you are a store owner it is better to start using a different UPI pay receiver as Paytm QR code will not work after the same date. I doubt they will now get thier licence back from RBI as they have broken too many laws.

I am not sure whether we can use Paytm fastag or not, but I already initiated closure of my tag that I have been using it since 2018, and they said funds will be credited in 5-7 working days.

But sound box and UPI channel may not be affected due to this issue, or at least that is what they show in their app page about what will work and what won't after 29th Feb. I wonder what will happen to each and every store in India that uses Paytm sound box for their UPI payments?

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Quote from: Bureau on February 07, 2024, 12:38:45 AM

The PayTM issue is much bigger than it looks. After RBI, NHAI has banned them from issuing FASTag. If anyone is using UPI address that ends with @paytm, please shift to another service provider as it will be banned after 29th of this month. If you are a store owner it is better to start using a different UPI pay receiver as Paytm QR code will not work after the same date. I doubt they will now get thier licence back from RBI as they have broken too many laws.

It is better to stop using this app for anything. I remember there was a time when they were forcing their wallet users to open a bank account in the disguise of completing KYC for their wallet. They had hired agents all over India who were supposed to get paid INR 50 and one of my friends was part of the agent group. Later on, these agents recruited more agents under them and shared the revenue, it was like MLM schemes. I know it because unfortunately one of my friends deals in the MLM business and has made a fortune around it, he was the one who got two guys under him for the Paytm bank thing.

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The PayTM issue is much bigger than it looks. After RBI, NHAI has banned them from issuing FASTag. If anyone is using UPI address that ends with @paytm, please shift to another service provider as it will be banned after 29th of this month. If you are a store owner it is better to start using a different UPI pay receiver as Paytm QR code will not work after the same date. I doubt they will now get thier licence back from RBI as they have broken too many laws.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 03, 2024, 07:11:49 AM

This is an important piece of news you have shared @Bitcoin Smith, please move it to the News Child board. I do not think it is relevant to the main board as we do not want the main board to discuss a Bank getting ripped by an RBI.

I don't see description on news and press childboard but AFAIK, it's to share news articles...

Even though I don't like a Bank getting ripped by RBI but I never consider Paytm Bank as an actual bank and I see it as a positive news because private banks often involves in activities that doesn't comes under RBI regulations so this can be an example for the biggest private banks to know what will happen if they don't comply Regulations.

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There are rumors that this step was taken at the behest of Jio and Adani. Jio has already started a Jio payment bank but is not able to get customers and such a move by RBI will bring customers to them. Adani Financial is in talks with RBI to launch their payment bank this year and to benefit these two companies such a step was taken. RBI is not halting the AML by delicensing the payment bank they have now approached ED as they suspect small transactions were made using the Paytm payment bank which resulted in 100Cr being laundered into India.

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